But...were they fired on first or not?
Honestly...until there is a peace treaty again I don't think this question is relevant. There are so many skirmishes back and forth that half of Israel and Palestine can claim to have been "fired on first".
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But...were they fired on first or not?
Honestly...until there is a peace treaty again I don't think this question is relevant. There are so many skirmishes back and forth that half of Israel and Palestine can claim to have been "fired on first".
If it were up to me, we'd be in Darfur and every other place where people are being butchered.
We are the number one superpower in the world. We take the right to establish and maintain peace or something as close to it as possible. It's our responsibility, and for the most part, those countries which you think are "suffering" under us are grateful.
Of course you don't.
He doesn't and you can, and should, condemn Iran for that. Pointing to Iran and saying "well they do it too" isn't much of a justification for anything.
I'm waiting for the first jew taking charge in any Islamic country, Arab or not. When such is even possible, Wait! When they even allow a jew in the legislature/judiciary, progress will have been made. Not holding my breath.
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Jews do serve in the Iranian legislature. Persian jews have existed for millenia in Iran, and there are many synagogues, and jewish schools in Tehran. Once again, you are wildly misinformed.
That is not to say they don't get discriminated against in iran. But, in general, neither are they getting their heads chopped off when they go to synagogues, or serve in the nation's legislature.
He's right about there being a single jewish representative in the Irani legislature. Last I heard, it was a guy named Maurice Motamed.
And there are synagogues, though I'm not sure how much autonomy they have. Most of the Jewish population escaped, though. I don't believe Jews are allowed to immigrate to or emigrate from Iran now. But I wouldn't swear to it.
These are the synagogues.
http://www.kosherdelight.com/Irankosher.htm
Thanks. Heh ... I like how a single Jew = JewS. Sure his name ain't "Token"?
Link please.
Iran's Jewish community is officially recognized as a religious minority group by the government, and, like the Zoroastrians, they are allocated one seat in the Iranian Parliament. Maurice Motamed has been the Jewish MP since 2000, and was re-elected again in 2004. In 2000, former Jewish MP Manuchehr Eliasi estimated that at that time there were still 30,000–35,000 Jews in Iran, other sources put the figure as low as 20,000–25,000.[33]
Today Tehran has 11 functioning synagogues, many of them with Hebrew schools. It has two kosher restaurants, an old-age home and a cemetery. There is a Jewish library with 20,000 titles.[2] Iranian Jews have their own newspaper (called "Ofogh-e-Bina") with Jewish scholars performing Judaic research at Tehran's "Central Library of Jewish Association".[34] The "Dr. Sapir Jewish Hospital" is Iran's largest charity hospital of any religious minority community in the country;[34] however, most of its patients and staff are Muslim.[35]
I'm not looking at it as justification. My point was that they expect Israel to do things they wouldn't expect of any other country.... like participate in its own destruction.
I actually try to be fair on this issue. And by fair, I mean that both should be autonomous and run their own governments. I don't, however, believe that fair means Israel should cease to exist or that Zionism is a dirty word. I'm quite proud of Israel and the way they've made a desert green and the things it has achieved. What I resent is when people take positions that would result in it being yet another Arab country in the middle east.
Honestly...until there is a peace treaty again I don't think this question is relevant. There are so many skirmishes back and forth that half of Israel and Palestine can claim to have been "fired on first".
Well, if the point being made is that Israelis wade into child-infested, peaceful neighborhoods to "allegedly" clean out combatants, I think it's pretty relevant that there are actually well-armed combatants there, who fired on them before the Israeli soldiers kicked their butts.
I also like the article which states four Israelis were "mildly" or "slightly" injured...but everything they accomplished is couched in terms of horror.
Do you have a source that clarifies who shot at whom first? Everyting I've read today NOW says it was standard operation.
But, praytel, how does demonlishing a gas station with a BULLDOZER fit into the strategy of reducing rockets fired into israel? Sounds like ordering a case of whips for the farm hands in pre-civil war Georgia to me. Certainly, if extracting violent pals is the motive bringing along a fucking pal settlement demonlishing tank sure will come in handy! That Law of Return that Jillian mentioned may be a sin if muslims try to out populate jews but all the brand new emmigrants need somwhere to Canaanize!
and OF COURSE everything in that article only SLIGHTLY hurt israelis... THEY ARE SUPERMEN, you know! Bullets bounce right off of them like anyone else who is chosen and wants an ethnically pure nation for themselves. Indeed, but I"m the one posting propaganda.....
Well, if the point being made is that Israelis wade into child-infested, peaceful neighborhoods to "allegedly" clean out combatants, I think it's pretty relevant that there are actually well-armed combatants there, who fired on them before the Israeli soldiers kicked their butts.
That is another sign of Jewish uniqueness: We are facing the entire world alone. As in the days of the Holocaust, all the Goyim have forsaken us. Face to face with the Iranian monster which threatens to devour us, we now stand here alone.
The JPost should run a traceroute on the IP of the user who posted this message. I'd bet money it originated somewhere in Missouri
BTW, will we ever be able to place mods on our ignore lists? I think it should be an option when the most shrill motherfucker on a messageboard is made a staff member.