CDZ A Comprehensive Look At The Uneven Playing Field

[Indeependent]

Nothing makes me want to jump off a cliff more than listening to white guys telling us that black people are poor because liberals keep explaining that there are reasons why they are poor. As if they would suddenly achieve great heights and wealth if only the libs would stop trying to treat them equitably.

The arrogance is incredible.

Because you can't face reality, which is nothing new based on most of your opinions regarding almost every topic.

 

[Papageorgio]

Why does the black community need 228 year and the Hispanics need only 84 years? Who are helping the Hispanics?


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[westwall]

Nothing makes me want to jump off a cliff more than listening to white guys telling us that black people are poor because liberals keep explaining that there are reasons why they are poor. As if they would suddenly achieve great heights and wealth if only the libs would stop trying to treat them equitably.

The arrogance is incredible.

The arrogance is within the racist progressive movement which seems to think that the black race is as helpless as a baby and incapable of fending for themselves. THAT is arrogant.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Here is a very well researched, data driven look at how things just aren't the same for people of color when it comes to upward mobility and wealth creation.

The Average Black Family Would Need 228 Years to Build the Wealth of a White Family Today

It would be great if at least one person is able to learn something from this info. In so many ways....the path toward prosperity is much more difficult for black Americans.

It need not be.....lot jobs short workers that pay well with some training.....

 

[320 Years of History]

Here is a very well researched, data driven look at how things just aren't the same for people of color when it comes to upward mobility and wealth creation.

The Average Black Family Would Need 228 Years to Build the Wealth of a White Family Today

It would be great if at least one person is able to learn something from this info. In so many ways....the path toward prosperity is much more difficult for black Americans.

You are correct, but you must also realize that folks who oppose this topic will raise the "individual level" line of dissent. Now for some of them that would be okay provided they were not also the same folks who decry that national economic policy is made on a macro level.

In other words, the very same folks say:

• The problem with blacks' prosperity is because "this" black person made poor choices and "that" black or non-black person made good ones.
• The problem with working class folks who cannot get a "good paying job" is not due to their own poor choices about how to direct their careers, but due to the uneven playing field.

Of course, the fact is that blacks are represented in both working class and non-working class strata as are all other ethnicities and races. Yet apparently only black individuals have made poor choices that have resulted in their not joining in greater numbers/proportions the ranks of middle and upper middle classes.

 

[Papageorgio]

Here is a very well researched, data driven look at how things just aren't the same for people of color when it comes to upward mobility and wealth creation.

The Average Black Family Would Need 228 Years to Build the Wealth of a White Family Today

It would be great if at least one person is able to learn something from this info. In so many ways....the path toward prosperity is much more difficult for black Americans.

You are correct, but you must also realize that folks who oppose this topic will raise the "individual level" line of dissent. Now for some of them that would be okay provided they were not also the same folks who decry that national economic policy is made on a macro level.

In other words, the very same folks say:

• The problem with blacks' prosperity is because "this" black person made poor choices and "that" black or non-black person made good ones.
• The problem with working class folks who cannot get a "good paying job" is not due to their own poor choices about how to direct their careers, but due to the uneven playing field.

Of course, the fact is that blacks are represented in both working class and non-working class strata as are all other ethnicities and races. Yet apparently only black individuals have made poor choices that have resulted in their not joining in greater numbers/proportions the ranks of middle and upper middle classes.

Then how do you change it?


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[320 Years of History]

Here is a very well researched, data driven look at how things just aren't the same for people of color when it comes to upward mobility and wealth creation.

The Average Black Family Would Need 228 Years to Build the Wealth of a White Family Today

It would be great if at least one person is able to learn something from this info. In so many ways....the path toward prosperity is much more difficult for black Americans.

You are correct, but you must also realize that folks who oppose this topic will raise the "individual level" line of dissent. Now for some of them that would be okay provided they were not also the same folks who decry that national economic policy is made on a macro level.

In other words, the very same folks say:

• The problem with blacks' prosperity is because "this" black person made poor choices and "that" black or non-black person made good ones.
• The problem with working class folks who cannot get a "good paying job" is not due to their own poor choices about how to direct their careers, but due to the uneven playing field.

Of course, the fact is that blacks are represented in both working class and non-working class strata as are all other ethnicities and races. Yet apparently only black individuals have made poor choices that have resulted in their not joining in greater numbers/proportions the ranks of middle and upper middle classes.

Then how do you change it?

Of the multiple "its" of which I wrote, which one do you want me to address? Pick any one you want and I'll address it.

 

[Dekster]

Poverty rate for married blacks is only slightly higher than that for married whites.

 

[Papageorgio]

Here is a very well researched, data driven look at how things just aren't the same for people of color when it comes to upward mobility and wealth creation.

The Average Black Family Would Need 228 Years to Build the Wealth of a White Family Today

It would be great if at least one person is able to learn something from this info. In so many ways....the path toward prosperity is much more difficult for black Americans.

You are correct, but you must also realize that folks who oppose this topic will raise the "individual level" line of dissent. Now for some of them that would be okay provided they were not also the same folks who decry that national economic policy is made on a macro level.

In other words, the very same folks say:

• The problem with blacks' prosperity is because "this" black person made poor choices and "that" black or non-black person made good ones.
• The problem with working class folks who cannot get a "good paying job" is not due to their own poor choices about how to direct their careers, but due to the uneven playing field.

Of course, the fact is that blacks are represented in both working class and non-working class strata as are all other ethnicities and races. Yet apparently only black individuals have made poor choices that have resulted in their not joining in greater numbers/proportions the ranks of middle and upper middle classes.

Then how do you change it?

Of the multiple "its" of which I wrote, which one do you want me to address? Pick any one you want and I'll address it.

Reducing the 228 years to build wealth, it takes Hispanics 84.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

Poverty rate for married blacks is only slightly higher than that for married whites.

Which only makes sense, it is MUCH easier to rise out poverty as a two income household than as a one household income. So that right there tells you one of the root causes of the issue. black fathers don't raise their families.

 

[Moonglow]

Here is a very well researched, data driven look at how things just aren't the same for people of color when it comes to upward mobility and wealth creation.

The Average Black Family Would Need 228 Years to Build the Wealth of a White Family Today

It would be great if at least one person is able to learn something from this info. In so many ways....the path toward prosperity is much more difficult for black Americans.

I read your article. Seems that the logical conclusion is that the so called war on poverty has failed black America. Democrat solution ? Spend MOAR government money.


Sheesh

Also, what a load of bullshit. Black families have NOT done the same thing that white families have done over the last 30 years to improve their own situation (on average I mean)

Then why are Indian immigrants earning more on average than white folks, oh yeah, they tend to have a higher degree of college degrees....You white folks better get on the doctorate or masters level....Plus, more small businesses are started by immigrants than the native population of the US..

 

[Manonthestreet]

Democrats actually made things worse Reynolds’ Law
The government decides to try to increase the middle class by subsidizing things that middle class people have: If middle-class people go to college and own homes, then surely if more people go to college and own homes, we’ll have more middle-class people. But homeownership and college aren’t causes of middle-class status, they’re markers for possessing the kinds of traits — self-discipline, the ability to defer gratification, etc. — that let you enter, and stay, in the middle class. Subsidizing the markers doesn’t produce the traits; if anything, it undermines them.

Govt subsidized housing crash trying to boost home ownership especially among minorities and now we are doing the same thing with college ed to
Cant end this by throwing money at it

 

[Moonglow]

Awesome! Nobody read the piece.

Did you? They are merely pointing out what we already know. I am surprised that Hispanics can equal a white families wealth in only 84 years. How they can be so superior to a group that has already received trillions in government handouts is actually quite surprising. No wonder black and Hispanic gangs are always at war.

How do so many foreigners come to this country with literally NOTHING and create wealth within a single generation?

Small business start ups...

 

[Manonthestreet]

Local radio host has repeated multiple time 3 simple ways to avoid poverty
Graduate HS, Get married, dont have kids until you do.......and get a full time job

Three rules for staying out of poverty
If you do all those three things, your chance of falling into poverty is just 2 percent. Meanwhile, you’ll have a 74 percent chance of being in the middle class.

Applies to everyone
These rules apply to all races and ethnic groups. Breaking these rules is becoming more commonplace, unfortunately, for all racial groups.

 

[320 Years of History]

The government decides to try to increase the middle class by subsidizing things that middle class people have: If middle-class people go to college and own homes, then surely if more people go to college and own homes, we’ll have more middle-class people.

To the extent that individuals take full advantage of the opportunity to got to a reasonably decent college and in turn graduate from that college as high performers, they have a far better shot at becoming middle class if their situation prior to going to college was one whereby they would not have, without the subsidy, obtained a college degree. Quite simply college grads, in general earn more money over the course of their careers.

• Is college worth it?
  
  
  
  
  
  
• How Much More Money Do College Grads Make?
  
  " According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the annual salary average differences between educational levels is staggering:
  • High school drop outs: $18,734
  • High school graduates: $27,915
  • College grads (with a bachelor’s degree): $51,206
  • Advanced degree holders: $74,602"
  
  
• Do College Grads Really Make More?
  
• How Much More Do College Graduates Earn Than Non-College Graduates?
  
  "Let's look at some figures from the U.S. Bureau of Statistics in 2015 on median weekly earnings. For those with only a high school diploma, men earned $751 and women earned $578. With some college or an associate's degree, men earned $872 while women earned just $661. Men holding a bachelor's degree earned $1,249; with women, bachelor's degree holders bringing home $965. With a bachelor's degree or higher, men earned $1,385, with women earning $1049. Finally, men with an advanced degree earned $1,630 and women with an advanced degree earned $1,185."

Given the above, subsidizing college degrees makes sense as a means to increasing the population of folks who are middle class or higher in terms of earnings.

As for subsidizing home ownership, that seems like a specious means to boost the rolls of the middle classes and above. That is something that one does when one reaches middle class status; a home is not something that merely the having of it will make one able to be middle class.

 

[Manonthestreet]

The government decides to try to increase the middle class by subsidizing things that middle class people have: If middle-class people go to college and own homes, then surely if more people go to college and own homes, we’ll have more middle-class people.

To the extent that individuals take full advantage of the opportunity to got to a reasonably decent college and in turn graduate from that college as high performers, they have a far better shot at becoming middle class if their situation prior to going to college was one whereby they would not have, without the subsidy, obtained a college degree. Quite simply college grads, in general earn more money over the course of their careers.

• Is college worth it?
  
  
  
  
  
  
• How Much More Money Do College Grads Make?
  
  " According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the annual salary average differences between educational levels is staggering:
  • High school drop outs: $18,734
  • High school graduates: $27,915
  • College grads (with a bachelor’s degree): $51,206
  • Advanced degree holders: $74,602"
  
  
• Do College Grads Really Make More?
  
• How Much More Do College Graduates Earn Than Non-College Graduates?
  
  "Let's look at some figures from the U.S. Bureau of Statistics in 2015 on median weekly earnings. For those with only a high school diploma, men earned $751 and women earned $578. With some college or an associate's degree, men earned $872 while women earned just $661. Men holding a bachelor's degree earned $1,249; with women, bachelor's degree holders bringing home $965. With a bachelor's degree or higher, men earned $1,385, with women earning $1049. Finally, men with an advanced degree earned $1,630 and women with an advanced degree earned $1,185."

Given the above, subsidizing college degrees makes sense as a means to increasing the population of folks who are middle class or higher in terms of earnings.

As for subsidizing home ownership, that seems like a specious means to boost the rolls of the middle classes and above. That is something that one does when one reaches middle class status; a home is not something that merely the having of it will make one able to be middle class.

Over trillion of college loan debt ..most run up under Obama,,,,,funny doesnt seem to be helping

 

[320 Years of History]

The government decides to try to increase the middle class by subsidizing things that middle class people have: If middle-class people go to college and own homes, then surely if more people go to college and own homes, we’ll have more middle-class people.

To the extent that individuals take full advantage of the opportunity to got to a reasonably decent college and in turn graduate from that college as high performers, they have a far better shot at becoming middle class if their situation prior to going to college was one whereby they would not have, without the subsidy, obtained a college degree. Quite simply college grads, in general earn more money over the course of their careers.

• Is college worth it?
  
  
  
  
  
  
• How Much More Money Do College Grads Make?
  
  " According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the annual salary average differences between educational levels is staggering:
  • High school drop outs: $18,734
  • High school graduates: $27,915
  • College grads (with a bachelor’s degree): $51,206
  • Advanced degree holders: $74,602"
  
  
• Do College Grads Really Make More?
  
• How Much More Do College Graduates Earn Than Non-College Graduates?
  
  "Let's look at some figures from the U.S. Bureau of Statistics in 2015 on median weekly earnings. For those with only a high school diploma, men earned $751 and women earned $578. With some college or an associate's degree, men earned $872 while women earned just $661. Men holding a bachelor's degree earned $1,249; with women, bachelor's degree holders bringing home $965. With a bachelor's degree or higher, men earned $1,385, with women earning $1049. Finally, men with an advanced degree earned $1,630 and women with an advanced degree earned $1,185."

Given the above, subsidizing college degrees makes sense as a means to increasing the population of folks who are middle class or higher in terms of earnings.

As for subsidizing home ownership, that seems like a specious means to boost the rolls of the middle classes and above. That is something that one does when one reaches middle class status; a home is not something that merely the having of it will make one able to be middle class.

Over trillion of college loan debt ..most run up under Obama,,,,,funny doesnt seem to be helping

I bid you look into the causality for why that appears to be so and what is the cause(s) of it not being so. Please provide credible and objective references for your reply.

 

[Muhammed]

The playing field hasn't been....and is still not....even.

It is heavily skewed in favor of blacks. However, since they tend to be very unintelligent they will always be at a disadvantage.

 

[320 Years of History]

The playing field hasn't been....and is still not....even.

It is heavily skewed in favor of blacks. However, since they tend to be very unintelligent they will always be at a disadvantage.

Ookaaay...

 

[Muhammed]

The playing field hasn't been....and is still not....even.

It is heavily skewed in favor of blacks. However, since they tend to be very unintelligent they will always be at a disadvantage.

Ookaaay...

If you have evidence to the contrary, you are free to post it.