A better way to crack down on illegal immigration

Discussion in 'Immigration/Illegal Immigration' started by ihopehefails, Apr 20, 2010.

  1. ihopehefails
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    The first thing I would do is to stop punishing people who hire illegals since that just drives it underground but make it so that if you hire someone who is not a citizen of the Untied States then you pay a 150% tax on their wages. This would discourage the hiring of illegals since the cost would be prohibitive but lets say an employer decided to hire an illegal anyways and just paid the tax on that employee. That employer would then have to report who he was paying that tax on and then the immigration authorities would know that person is a illegal. The arrest can be made. End of story.
     
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    I would like to add that a strong way to prevent illegal imigration is to make the process of becoming an American citizen quicker. Yes, we need to conduct appropriate background checks on anyone leaving or coming into the country temporarily and permanently. But, there are people who have been living and working in this country for years who are still undocumented. The faster we can effectively grant citizenship to those who wish to come here, the better. If the process were easier, we would be engouraging immigrants to come to this country legally and integrate into society rather than living in the shadows.
     
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    This.
     
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    I agree with this. The process should be more convenient so that someone wanting to come would think it is easier to apply rather than pay a coyote to haul them across the desert. That would help out.
     
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    Don't take this the wrong way, but I think this is a really bad idea.

    1) Charging a 150% tax on the wages of non-citizens would effect immigrants who are here legally.

    2) Do you honestly think that companies are going to pay any taxes on someone they are illegally employing under the table when the whole reason they are employing them under the table is to avoid taxes in the first place? You pass the tax and it will do absolutely nothing to stop illegal immigration. It will just stop legal immigration.

    Much easier way is to make immigration easier but require anyone who came here illegally to return home and come back the legal way.
     
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    Punish business for hiring illegals. Jail the managers who do it. Fine the companies out the wahoo. Keep doing it. Guess what? They will stop: either stop hiring illegals or will end stop doing business.
     
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    Or we could just secure the border and enforce our current laws.
     
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    Start jailing just a few business owners and the jobs will dry up overnight.

    The illegals will stream out of the country in the opposite direction

    It is the business owners that created the problem by exploiting cheap labor. Let them pay the price
     
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    Another brilliant post.
    Do you think employers do not already face sanctions for hiring illegals? Do you think they stick a sign out their doors "Illegals only"? How do they verify their legal status? The SS database is riddled with mistakes. How will you separate a computer glitch from a willful mistake?
    Leftwinger is right about oen thing: jobs will dry up. For everyone.
     
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    The Rab points out the system is not being properly enforced and that identification is full of whole.

    Enforce the law. National ID cards, including one for The Rabbi. Catch and send illegals home. Jail managers and break businesses that break the laws.

    It can be done if We the People have the will. We don't.
     

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