A bet with anti-gunners

[Daryl Hunt]

Having social consciousness is not synonymous with being 'socialist' (as if these threads show any evidence of understanding what "socialism" even means).

I just make it easy and refer to all of you as commies, but what I really mean is authoritarianism v. liberalism (libertarianism). If you are an authoritarian, I will likely call you a commie, even if you are a racist national socialist. You're all commies. It's the same result.

And I can then refer to you as an Idiot. You don't mind, do you, Idiot.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

And I can then refer to you as an Idiot. You don't mind, do you, Idiot.

I call you an idiot too, so I guess we're even.



...wait no. I call you an old-ass geezer idiot. Sorry.

 

[Pop23]

the same way there are limits on the 1st amendment, you can't yell fire in a crowded theater, you shouldn't have an AR-15 if you're mentally ill.

COMMON. FUCKING. SENSE.

Gays deserve the right to self protection as anyone else!

 

[basquebromance]

the same way there are limits on the 1st amendment, you can't yell fire in a crowded theater, you shouldn't have an AR-15 if you're mentally ill.

COMMON. FUCKING. SENSE.

Gays deserve the right to self protection as anyone else!

who are you to talk about what we deserve?! who are you? WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?!

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

the same way there are limits on the 1st amendment, you can't yell fire in a crowded theater, you shouldn't have an AR-15 if you're mentally ill.

COMMON. FUCKING. SENSE.

Nobody wants a murderous psycho to be armed.

There are no prior-restraint limits to freedom of speech. There should be none for firearms either. Quit asking for them.

 

[Pop23]

the same way there are limits on the 1st amendment, you can't yell fire in a crowded theater, you shouldn't have an AR-15 if you're mentally ill.

COMMON. FUCKING. SENSE.

Dipshit, you can yell fire in a crowded theater, if there is a fire. You can’t yell fire if there is no fire.

Do you not understand the difference between freedom of speech, and using speech to physically injure?

You can use a gun to defend yourself, you can’t use a gun to injure without justification.

You too stupid to think otherwise. Of course you are.

 

[g5000]

This delusion is shattered by the simple fact that advanced countries with strict gun laws have not only less gun homicides, they have lower homicide rates, period.

So you don't need to make a wager. You've already lost the bet. You just need to open your eyes.

I will wager, however, that you WON'T open your eyes and will keep them firmly shut.

So, what should be done, Mr. Libertarian?

What strict, unconstitutional, rights-trampling gun laws would you support?

You need to read the premise of the OP, bigot boi.

Wow! I really stepped on your crank today, eh? Got you cycled up in no time flat.

 

[Pop23]

the same way there are limits on the 1st amendment, you can't yell fire in a crowded theater, you shouldn't have an AR-15 if you're mentally ill.

COMMON. FUCKING. SENSE.

Gays deserve the right to self protection as anyone else!

who are you to talk about what we deserve?! who are you? WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?!

Me? Some people think gays are mentally ill

You want THEM judging if you are or aren’t?

See how that works doofus?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Wow! I really stepped on your crank today, eh? Got you cycled up in no time flat.

Because you are a liar and tried to paint me as a man driven by hate. Should I have been pleased?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

And I can then refer to you as an Idiot. You don't mind, do you, Idiot.

I call you an idiot too, so I guess we're even.



...wait no. I call you an old-ass geezer idiot. Sorry.

When I am looking for a word to describe something, I do sometimes feel like an idiot. Don't worry, kid, you'll get there someday. Until then......what's that word.......

 

[jillian]

In the many discussions of mass murders, the dichotomy is that anti-gunners think they have the solution by restrictions on guns. The pro-gunners think that the way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Very differing opinions indeed.

On the right, we believe that no matter what gun laws are created, the bad guys will always find access to firearms. The left? They believe criminals will obey any and all laws. On the right, we believe (as has been demonstrated in Europe) that even if we could make all guns illegal, that won't stop killers. On the left, they believe that if a mental person doesn't have access to guns, they will take up video games instead. Now to the bet..........

Let's say that the Congress agreed to create a law that read we will give anti-gunners anything they want to stop mass murders (name your poison). The bill would be set to expire in four years. Now if within that time, we see one more mass murder (guns or otherwise) the law would prohibit any further gun restriction legislation for 50 years. If within that time, the law stops all mass murders, we allow the left to keep it and even create more restrictions.

Would any anti-gunner be willing to make this wager?

The reason I ask is that I don't think for one minute the anti-gunners really believe any of their demands would stop mass murders, or even reduce them. It's just something to complain about because we are against their suggestions.

What is “anti gun” about by wanting children, crazies, criminals or domestic abuses to have weapons?

Maybe you should let go or the NRA misreprepesentatioms

So you think taking guns away from law abiding people, while criminals, crazies, and domestic abusers are armed..... is a brilliant solution?

What guns are being taken away? All guns?

Unless they are crazy, criminals or domestic a users no one wants their guns. So why do you think they’re hysterical and foaming at the mouth?

 

[jillian]

Basically no one is for taking away any guns. It's about background checks and maybe Banning sales of assault rifles because nut job mental cases just love them

Background checks in exchange for no restrictions. Compromise or fuck off.

No background checks, no restrictions, no infringements.

In other words crazies, criminals and domestic abusers should have guns?

 

[francoHFW]

There shouldn't be a minimum wage.

WTF is wrong with you people? Unbelievable LOL! Another 20 years of this and we are a banana Republic. Aaarrrggghhh hhhh

Nah. A banana republic is a country dependent on a single export. The only export we would have at mass quantities would be liberals. But nobody wants them because they don't work.

You are absolutely out of your mind. LOL.

I have lived in England France and Spain and got very drunk in Germany Munich and cologne and down the Rhine Valley

I think I bumped into you at a winefest in Ktown! I know you!!!

Makes more sense then arguing politics with you LOL. I was there if that is cologne in 1972. Started a lifelong love of schnapps and I was very impressed with the bumper bumper cars. You could buy as many plastic chips as you wanted and not get out 4 hours.

 

[francoHFW]

There shouldn't be a minimum wage.

WTF is wrong with you people? Unbelievable LOL! Another 20 years of this and we are a banana Republic. Aaarrrggghhh hhhh

Nah. A banana republic is a country dependent on a single export. The only export we would have at mass quantities would be liberals. But nobody wants them because they don't work.

You are absolutely out of your mind. LOL.

I have lived in England France and Spain and got very drunk in Germany Munich and cologne and down the Rhine Valley

I think I bumped into you at a winefest in Ktown! I know you!!!

Oops no wine fest. But I did do the vendange in burgundy in 1977.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

In other words crazies, criminals and domestic abusers should have guns?

They are the only people who should have guns. And, they will be, right after we repeal the 19th Amendmnt.


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Luv ya, Jill

 

[francoHFW]

because you believe bought off High School grad ex Coke head DJs and bimbos on the propaganda machine

I never watched CCN once outside of waiting at the doctors office.

You dupes blame the poor for our failing economy, inequality, and ruined middle class. Brilliant.

What failing economy? Get out of the basement sometime. The economy hasn't been this good since the 90's. The Republicans are in charge now and Trump is making America great again. No, your welfare check didn't go up, but for us working folks, the future looks mighty bright.

Not for the working class or the middle class.

CNN is full of journalists. Bought off DJs are on Fox and talk radio.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

On the right, we believe that no matter what gun laws are created, the bad guys will always find access to firearms.

This delusion is shattered by the simple fact that advanced countries with strict gun laws have not only less gun homicides, they have lower homicide rates, period.

So you don't need to make a wager. You've already lost the bet. You just need to open your eyes.

I will wager, however, that you WON'T open your eyes and will keep them firmly shut.

And it's as I said repeatedly, you leftists think it's the lack of guns responsible instead of the people. Take all the guns we have here and give them to those people in the countries you speak of, and there will be little if any change in both countries.

Take all the guns out of the inner-city and give them to the people in a nice middle-class suburb. Same thing, nothing will change in either area. You still won't be able to walk down the street at night in the ghetto and still be able to walk anytime in the nice middle-class suburb.

 

[francoHFW]

everyone just decided to get lazy and take crappy jobs,

And who's fault is that?

That's all there are. Thanks GOP for the investment in training and education for good jobs. They've all gone to Germany Etc.

Jobs left because of unions and government costs. I work with industry every day and have seen them leave first hand. Unions misled people into believing that good paying monkey jobs would be in the US forever.

Menial manufacturing jobs left because of competition from poor countries as is natural with free trade. The GOP refuses to to invest in training and education 4 Millions of good jobs that have gone 2 smart countries like Germany... Great job. Must save the rich!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

the same way there are limits on the 1st amendment, you can't yell fire in a crowded theater, you shouldn't have an AR-15 if you're mentally ill.

COMMON. FUCKING. SENSE.

Okay, then once again, who gets to decide who is mentally ill or not? You don't think the Democrats armed with such a law wouldn't abuse it? Look what they did with the FBI, the CIA and the DOJ. They corrupted each agency.

 

[francoHFW]

On the right, we believe that no matter what gun laws are created, the bad guys will always find access to firearms.

This delusion is shattered by the simple fact that advanced countries with strict gun laws have not only less gun homicides, they have lower homicide rates, period.

So you don't need to make a wager. You've already lost the bet. You just need to open your eyes.

I will wager, however, that you WON'T open your eyes and will keep them firmly shut.

And it's as I said repeatedly, you leftists think it's the lack of guns responsible instead of the people. Take all the guns we have here and give them to those people in the countries you speak of, and there will be little if any change in both countries.

Take all the guns out of the inner-city and give them to the people in a nice middle-class suburb. Same thing, nothing will change in either area. You still won't be able to walk down the street at night in the ghetto and still be able to walk anytime in the nice middle-class suburb.

Yes gangs are killing each other over who sells drugs 2 Suburbanites.