97 of the largest tech companies oppose Trump's immigration ban

[rdean]

Democrats already have skills.

Sucking a public titty isn't a skill. A baby rat could do it.

Enough about Republicans. Let's talk about the educated.

 

[rdean]

You didn't built that! Your slave laborers did!

And they're supporting taking away jobs from Americans, especially skill-enriched Democrat Inner City High school graduates

Democrats already have skills.

It's Republicans that are unemployed.

Democrats already have skills.

It's Republicans that are unemployed.

We have seen the skills of the left and who has time on their hands.
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It's different when white people do it.

 

[rdean]

NOW the left LOVES corporations. When did this happen?

Democrats LOVE fairness. Republicans love being stomped on by a con man.

dean i hate to break this to you.....but many a democrat has been stomped on by those they say have your back......yea i was shocked too....

Republicans don't tell Democrats we have your back. They say "die mother fucker".

 

[rdean]

SAN FRANCISCO — Expressing their discontent over President Trump's executive order on immigration, 97 tech companies — including giants Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook — filed a joint court brief Sunday opposing the new rules.

The list of companies that signed include some of the most powerful in the tech world. Besides Apple, Facebook, Google and Microsoft, other companies taking part were LinkedIn, Mozilla, Pinterest, Reddit, Salesforce, Yelp

I can't stand any of those companies. They love the immigrants so they can pay low wages. The status quo has served them very well. Odd to see libs siding with big business.

Hi Tech jobs don't go to the cheapest. You have to have the education to back up your worth. There are 5.8 million jobs availible because people don't have the skills. Steve Jobs was Syrian. Huffington Post was wrong. Companies will pay for high quality workers. And high quality workers know their worth.
So a worker may get hired at a lower rate than an experienced engineer, but that's the case in every profession. Before I retired, the company would hire someone from India or China or Ireland and after 6 months, if they weren't paid the industry standard they would find another job. Not only did they become experienced over that 6 months, but they had a history of reliability. And kids right out of an engineering program expecting to start at a hundred grand are going to be disappointed.

 

[WillowTree]

You didn't built that! Your slave laborers did!

And they're supporting taking away jobs from Americans, especially skill-enriched Democrat Inner City High school graduates

Democrats already have skills.

It's Republicans that are unemployed.

Democrats already have skills.

It's Republicans that are unemployed.

We have seen the skills of the left and who has time on their hands.
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It's different when white people do it.

Hey! Where's the white looters, business burners, business robbers? Show me those!

 

[Weatherman2020]

You didn't built that! Your slave laborers did!

And they're supporting taking away jobs from Americans, especially skill-enriched Democrat Inner City High school graduates

Democrats already have skills.

It's Republicans that are unemployed.

Democrats already have skills.

It's Republicans that are unemployed.

We have seen the skills of the left and who has time on their hands.
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It's different when white people do it.

White, black, green. All Democrats are equally vile.

 

[Iceweasel]

Democrats already have skills.

Sucking a public titty isn't a skill. A baby rat could do it.

Enough about Republicans. Let's talk about the educated.

More projection from a nursing rat.

 

[Iceweasel]

SAN FRANCISCO — Expressing their discontent over President Trump's executive order on immigration, 97 tech companies — including giants Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook — filed a joint court brief Sunday opposing the new rules.

The list of companies that signed include some of the most powerful in the tech world. Besides Apple, Facebook, Google and Microsoft, other companies taking part were LinkedIn, Mozilla, Pinterest, Reddit, Salesforce, Yelp

I can't stand any of those companies. They love the immigrants so they can pay low wages. The status quo has served them very well. Odd to see libs siding with big business.

Hi Tech jobs don't go to the cheapest. You have to have the education to back up your worth. There are 5.8 million jobs availible because people don't have the skills. Steve Jobs was Syrian. Huffington Post was wrong. Companies will pay for high quality workers. And high quality workers know their worth.
So a worker may get hired at a lower rate than an experienced engineer, but that's the case in every profession. Before I retired, the company would hire someone from India or China or Ireland and after 6 months, if they weren't paid the industry standard they would find another job. Not only did they become experienced over that 6 months, but they had a history of reliability. And kids right out of an engineering program expecting to start at a hundred grand are going to be disappointed.

So Syria, Libya, Yemen, etc. have the best skilled high tech workers?

 

[Harry Dresden]

NOW the left LOVES corporations. When did this happen?

Democrats LOVE fairness. Republicans love being stomped on by a con man.

dean i hate to break this to you.....but many a democrat has been stomped on by those they say have your back......yea i was shocked too....

Republicans don't tell Democrats we have your back. They say "die mother fucker".

and that has what to do with what i said?....

 

[boedicca]

I bet Disney opposed Trump's immigration suspension (it's not a ban), for the same reason that the 97 tech companies do: they all want to use cheap H-1B labor to replace Americans.


After Disney IT workers were told in October 2014 of the plan to use offshore outsourcing firms, employees said the workplace changed. The number of South Asian workers in Disney technology buildings increased, and some workers had to train H-1B-visa-holding replacements. Approximately 250 IT workers were laid off in January 2015.

Now 30 of these employees filed a lawsuit on Monday in U.S. District Court in Orlando, alleging discrimination on the basis of national origin and race....

Disney IT workers, in lawsuit, claim discrimination against Americans

 

[boedicca]

SAN FRANCISCO — Expressing their discontent over President Trump's executive order on immigration, 97 tech companies — including giants Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook — filed a joint court brief Sunday opposing the new rules.

The list of companies that signed include some of the most powerful in the tech world. Besides Apple, Facebook, Google and Microsoft, other companies taking part were LinkedIn, Mozilla, Pinterest, Reddit, Salesforce, Yelp

I can't stand any of those companies. They love the immigrants so they can pay low wages. The status quo has served them very well. Odd to see libs siding with big business.

Hi Tech jobs don't go to the cheapest. You have to have the education to back up your worth. There are 5.8 million jobs availible because people don't have the skills. Steve Jobs was Syrian. Huffington Post was wrong. Companies will pay for high quality workers. And high quality workers know their worth.
So a worker may get hired at a lower rate than an experienced engineer, but that's the case in every profession. Before I retired, the company would hire someone from India or China or Ireland and after 6 months, if they weren't paid the industry standard they would find another job. Not only did they become experienced over that 6 months, but they had a history of reliability. And kids right out of an engineering program expecting to start at a hundred grand are going to be disappointed.

So Syria, Libya, Yemen, etc. have the best skilled high tech workers?

They're highly skilled at recruiting and messaging via hashtags on social media.

 

[Iceweasel]

I bet Disney opposed Trump's immigration suspension (it's not a ban), for the same reason that the 97 tech companies do: they all want to use cheap H-1B labor to replace Americans.


After Disney IT workers were told in October 2014 of the plan to use offshore outsourcing firms, employees said the workplace changed. The number of South Asian workers in Disney technology buildings increased, and some workers had to train H-1B-visa-holding replacements. Approximately 250 IT workers were laid off in January 2015.

Now 30 of these employees filed a lawsuit on Monday in U.S. District Court in Orlando, alleging discrimination on the basis of national origin and race....

Disney IT workers, in lawsuit, claim discrimination against Americans

I knew a Disney artist. He said it was a sweat shop and got out and that was long ago.

 

[Markle]

SAN FRANCISCO — Expressing their discontent over President Trump's executive order on immigration, 97 tech companies — including giants Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook — filed a joint court brief Sunday opposing the new rules.

The list of companies that signed include some of the most powerful in the tech world. Besides Apple, Facebook, Google and Microsoft, other companies taking part were Airbnb, Box, Dropbox, Etsy, Github, Glassdoor, Kickstarter, LinkedIn, Medium, Mozilla, Pinterest, Reddit, Salesforce, Square, Twilo, Yelp and Zynga.

In filing, 97 tech companies oppose Trump's immigration ban
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On Trump's side, he has unemployed high school drop outs, corn farms, people who milk cows by hand and people with large families hoping he will cut their health care and kick them out of their houses.

It will be interesting to see who wins.

And you don't wonder why they oppose President Donald Trump's order?

 

[Markle]

I bet Disney opposed Trump's immigration suspension (it's not a ban), for the same reason that the 97 tech companies do: they all want to use cheap H-1B labor to replace Americans.


After Disney IT workers were told in October 2014 of the plan to use offshore outsourcing firms, employees said the workplace changed. The number of South Asian workers in Disney technology buildings increased, and some workers had to train H-1B-visa-holding replacements. Approximately 250 IT workers were laid off in January 2015.

Now 30 of these employees filed a lawsuit on Monday in U.S. District Court in Orlando, alleging discrimination on the basis of national origin and race....

Disney IT workers, in lawsuit, claim discrimination against Americans

I knew a Disney artist. He said it was a sweat shop and got out and that was long ago.

Well, that settles it! He SAID it was a.... IMPOSSIBLE your friend got canned for something he did.... ;D

 

[westwall]

SAN FRANCISCO — Expressing their discontent over President Trump's executive order on immigration, 97 tech companies — including giants Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook — filed a joint court brief Sunday opposing the new rules.

The list of companies that signed include some of the most powerful in the tech world. Besides Apple, Facebook, Google and Microsoft, other companies taking part were Airbnb, Box, Dropbox, Etsy, Github, Glassdoor, Kickstarter, LinkedIn, Medium, Mozilla, Pinterest, Reddit, Salesforce, Square, Twilo, Yelp and Zynga.

In filing, 97 tech companies oppose Trump's immigration ban
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On Trump's side, he has unemployed high school drop outs, corn farms, people who milk cows by hand and people with large families hoping he will cut their health care and kick them out of their houses.

It will be interesting to see who wins.

Of course they do, they want the CHEAP labor from over seas you moron. While they are telling American kids to go run up huge debt getting their STEM degree's the employers have no intention of actually hiring them! They are the height of hypocrisy.

 

[Iceweasel]

I bet Disney opposed Trump's immigration suspension (it's not a ban), for the same reason that the 97 tech companies do: they all want to use cheap H-1B labor to replace Americans.


After Disney IT workers were told in October 2014 of the plan to use offshore outsourcing firms, employees said the workplace changed. The number of South Asian workers in Disney technology buildings increased, and some workers had to train H-1B-visa-holding replacements. Approximately 250 IT workers were laid off in January 2015.

Now 30 of these employees filed a lawsuit on Monday in U.S. District Court in Orlando, alleging discrimination on the basis of national origin and race....

Disney IT workers, in lawsuit, claim discrimination against Americans

I knew a Disney artist. He said it was a sweat shop and got out and that was long ago.

Well, that settles it! He SAID it was a.... IMPOSSIBLE your friend got canned for something he did.... ;D

Huh? WTF are you frothing over?

 

[rdean]

You didn't built that! Your slave laborers did!

And they're supporting taking away jobs from Americans, especially skill-enriched Democrat Inner City High school graduates

Democrats already have skills.

It's Republicans that are unemployed.

were is that link backing that up?....

Why do you think they are crying and bawling about bringing jobs back and immigrants have our jobs. Duh!

 

[Harry Dresden]

You didn't built that! Your slave laborers did!

And they're supporting taking away jobs from Americans, especially skill-enriched Democrat Inner City High school graduates

Democrats already have skills.

It's Republicans that are unemployed.

were is that link backing that up?....

Why do you think they are crying and bawling about bringing jobs back and immigrants have our jobs. Duh!

how come you demand everyone back up what they say but you dont have to?....show me were its just republicans that are unemployed.....and in california lots of lefties cry about the same thing....yea i know i was shocked too....

 

[usmbguest5318]

It's not that banning people in the abstract is a terrible thing. It's that Trump chose about the most haphazard and ineffectual way to design and implement a travel/immigration ban. Quite simply, there's just no rationally supportable basis for Trump's edict.

• Immigrants Assimilate into the Political Mainstream
  
• Terrorism and Immigration: A Risk Analysis
  
  • What the Data Show About [Terrorist] Attacks and Immigration

There's scads more immigration-related content worth reading from the Cato Institute, which is not by any stretch of the imagination a liberal think tank, but it a place where people actually think, often (not always) rationally. I don't, from a normative standpoint, agree with everything they propose, but I won't deny that their proposals are often (not always) rigorously developed.

Even looking at the ban from the standpoint of the value of lives saved, it just doesn't "add up." Consider this:

Government regulators frequently estimate how much it will cost to save a single life — often referred to as a “statistical life” — under new safety rules that they propose. The key insight behind that estimate is that human life is certainly very precious, but not infinitely so. Indeed, everything people do that slightly increases their chances of dying, such as driving a car, would be unthinkable if they placed an infinite value on their own lives.

The tricky part is figuring out how much that statistical life is actually worth. Many security experts place a high cost of $15 million on each statistical life. [ Does a study get more bipartisan than the one at the link? It's produced by AEI and Brookings.] Using this estimate, a new terrorism prevention rule would be rational if the value of statistical lives saved by the rule were at least as high as the cost it imposed. If Trump’s refugee restrictions reduce the already low chance of dying in a refugee terrorist attack by a further 50 percent, to about one in 5.5 billion per year, then it would cost Americans about $525.5 million per life saved in lost economic output that would have accrued to U.S. natives—about 35 times as great as the benefit. But the larger cost would be the 510,000 fewer refugees resettled in the United States than would have been without the restrictions. Those tremendous costs would buy the United States one fewer murder committed by a refugee-terrorist over the next 17 years.
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Those calculations notwithstanding, not a single life would have been saved had Trump’s executive order been put in place 41 years ago. Just 17 terrorists from the seven Muslim countries included in Trump’s travel ban have been convicted of planning or carrying out terrorist attacks on U.S. soil from 1975 to the end of 2015, and none resulted in fatalities.

 

[Correll]

Companies making money off of slave labor don't want to lose their slaves.

Never saw than one coming

Rdean didn't. He is completely shocked and excited by this development.