81-year-old Ohio man charged with murder for shooting Black Uber driver

[Missourian]

You’ve seen one too many Hollywood movies. You’re trying to play both sides claiming of you don’t pay you are endangering them but also claim by not paying you are helping them.


Just don’t be a dumbass and call the police from the start

That's what I'm telling you, man.

You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. At least you have some leverage if you have the accomplice.

 

[Lord-Humungus]

That's what I'm telling you, man.

You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. At least you have some leverage if you have the accomplice.

You would have more by involving the police instead of trying to act out your favorite action movie

 

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

Of course the uber driver was involved, to what extent, we do not know outside of an investigation. Involved, took part, phrase it any way you want. Criminals are incredible savvy. To flat out state that a man shot an uber driver is incorrect. She was participating in a crime, only a thorough investigation can conclude if she was not involved.

Certainly, at the time she was shot, right or wrong, she was a suspect.

I still dont see a reason why the uber driver would try and flee when told that she was participating in a crime.

What was the Uber driver trying to do …Rob the old man? I haven’t read into the story much.

 

[Missourian]

You would have more by involving the police instead of trying to act out your favorite action movie

You know the scammer at first identified himself as an officer of the court, right?

“The Clark County Sheriff’s Office would like to take the opportunity to again remind residents, especially our older citizens, that no Law Enforcement Agency or Court will make contact with anyone in the manner of this case to solicit cash for bail,” the office told CBS News in a statement.

It urged residents “to use extreme caution when being contacted unexpectedly by subjects claiming to be relatives incarcerated in a correctional facility.”

Homeowner, 81, who fatally shot innocent Uber driver thought she was tied to scammer threatening him for $12K

An 81-year-old West Virginia man who allegedly shot dead an innocent Uber driver after they were both scammed by a caller had been ordered to pay him $12,000 at the threat of death.

nypost.com

 

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

This is a weird case. I watched the video from the original post. And once again, what we certainly all do know, it’s not a clear cut case of a white guy killing a black person for the hell of it. That kind of stuff actually doesn’t even exist in this country. But BLM acts like it does.

 

[elektra]

What was the Uber driver trying to do …Rob the old man? I haven’t read into the story much.

The story says, everyone says, pick up the package that was to contain ransom money.

Why would anyone not cooperate when told that they were participating in a crime?

Sadly, we most likely will never know. Sadly, we dont have video of the entire incident.

 

[elektra]

No a reasonable person would get the hell out of there. A idiot would stay.

Don’t worry the whole video will be used as evidence to convict the man for murder.

You can run faster than a speeding bullet?

Convict of murder, certainly that is possible but you saying so reflects upon your belief that people are guilty if arrested.

Nice to know you dont believe in, innocent until proven guilty.

 

[Lord-Humungus]

You can run faster than a speeding bullet?

Convict of murder, certainly that is possible but you saying so reflects upon your belief that people are guilty if arrested.

Nice to know you dont believe in, innocent until proven guilty.

I believe my own eyes and have an opinion. I will except the court’s ruling

 

[elektra]

Having a old man talking crazy to you holding a gun would make any reasonable person uneasy and want to flee

No, a reasonable person would comply, instead of fleeing, resulting in their death.

Nobody can outrun a bullet.

Only if I could prove this with a real example you could not argue.

What if an uber driver attempted to pick up a package, and an old man with a gun answered the door, then attemoted to flee, could she outrun the bullets?

Gee, your reasonable person did get shot dead, hence it was not wise to attempt to flee a man threatening to shoot you if you flee.

Yes, a reasonable person would want to flee. A reasonable person would not of escalated the situation by refusing to cooperate when they learned they were participating in a crime.

 

[Lord-Humungus]

No, a reasonable person would comply, instead of fleeing, resulting in their death.

Nobody can outrun a bullet.

Only if I could prove this with a real example you could not argue.

What if an uber driver attempted to pick up a package, and an old man with a gun answered the door, then attemoted to flee, could she outrun the bullets?

Gee, your reasonable person did get shot dead, hence it was not wise to attempt to flee a man threatening to shoot you if you flee.

Yes, a reasonable person would want to flee. A reasonable person would not of escalated the situation by refusing to cooperate when they learned they were participating in a crime.

Ok sure thing buddy.

 

[GLASNOST]

81-year-old Ohio man charged for the murder of Black Uber driver

William Brock shot unarmed 61-year-old Loletha Hall outside his home after confiscating her phone and blocking her from leaving.

www.revolt.tv

he must have had some mental issue. at 81 if they can proove that he will go t o the nut house. terribly sad my gosh.

At that age, he was probably aiming at the broad side of a barn and the bullet ricocheted.

 

[GLASNOST]

Nobody can outrun a bullet.

Clark Kent can.

 

[elektra]

Ok sure thing buddy.

You claimed reasonable people would run from people with a gun. Well, here we are discussing a person that did exactly what you say is what people would do, run. This person got killed doing exactly what you said reasonable people would do, run.

Get it, your idea that you would run and that is reasonable, got the person we are discussing killed.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

What was the Uber driver trying to do …Rob the old man? I haven’t read into the story much.

The Uber driver was simply trying to pick up a package that Uber was contracted to deliver. She did nothing illegal at all.

 

[elektra]

So that makes it okay to murder an innocent woman who was just doing her job responding to an Uber alert that popped up in her phone?

It certainly is not right, to murder the innocent. Nobody disagrees with that fact.

Sadly, that woman was a suspect in a kidnapping scam. She was there to pick-up the ransom. If that was a policeman that answered the door, if you were a policeman, would you simply let her go? Or would you first ask for her ID and include that in police report? Would you establish where she worked? Would you then see how she happened to be picked for this particular job? Would you check to see if she had been waiting one block from the scene of the crime so that the call for an Uber came to her first? Would you check and see if she just became an Uber driver and this was her very first call? Would you check her criminal history?

At this point, she is the only suspect, the only clue.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The SCAMMER dumbass.

The SCAMMER can't be called a kidnapper....because he didn't actually kidnap anyone...so the prosecutor referred to him as a scammer.

Correct, only the 81 year old did that. Thus he was charged with that crime as well as murder.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

It certainly is not right, to murder the innocent. Nobody disagrees with that fact.

Sadly, that woman was a suspect in a kidnapping scam. She was there to pick-up the ransom. If that was a policeman that answered the door, if you were a policeman, would you simply let her go? Or would you first ask for her ID and include that in police report? Would you establish where she worked? Would you then see how she happened to be picked for this particular job? Would you check to see if she had been waiting one block from the scene of the crime so that the call for an Uber came to her first? Would you check and see if she just became an Uber driver and this was her very first call? Would you check her criminal history?

At this point, she is the only suspect, the only clue.

Yet here you are defending the guy that murdered an innocent person.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

At this point, she is the only suspect, the only clue.

She is not a suspect, she is a victim of murder.

 

[elektra]

The Uber driver was simply trying to pick up a package that Uber was contracted to deliver. She did nothing illegal at all.

Sadly, that woman was a suspect in a kidnapping scam. She was there to pick-up the ransom. If that was a policeman that answered the door, if you were a policeman, would you simply let her go? Or would you first ask for her ID and include that in police report? Would you establish where she worked? Would you then see how she happened to be picked for this particular job? Would you check to see if she had been waiting one block from the scene of the crime so that the call for an Uber came to her first? Would you check and see if she just became an Uber driver and this was her very first call? Would you check her criminal history? Would you investigate to see if perhaps she just came from wherever the call for an Uber came from. Would you look at her google maps history, which shows every single trip you make even if you do not use google maps, as a police officer would you check the google maps history to see if perhaps she was in fact part of the crime.

At this point, she is the only suspect, the only clue.

 

[airplanemechanic]

And they have to prove you put the heroine in your trunk beyond a reasonable doubt.

And you call someone a dipshit. Talk about a dipshit calling someone a dipshit.

Ok, dumbass, in your scenario if you are pulled over and they find drugs in your car, they don't have to prove you put them there. You own the car, you own the drugs. You are one dumbfuck if you think they have a law stating that they have to PROVE you put them there. Their proof? It was in your car when they found them. You are in the car, you own the car. Your drugs. Unless one of your partners takes the blame, you're going down for possession of schedule 1 narcs.

This is EXACTLY why you NEVER EVER EVER consent to a search on the side of the road. You NEVER know what could be hidden in your car that you didn't put there but if you consent and they find something, you WILL go down for it.