thereisnospoon
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imagine old people being to old to work.
damned those old people
Age has nothing to do with this.
Only an imbecile such as yourself would make this leap.
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imagine old people being to old to work.
damned those old people
old people become disabled too you fuckwit.
go get the average age of these disability collectors
When caught lying, CON$ervoFascists just keep on lying. The number of people on disability has been increasing since the Reagan economic "miracle."As anyone with any level of awareness knows the WSJ has lost all credibility since Murdoch bought it, which my post which you did not address proved!Ed, The WSJ is hardly discredited- honest. Are you OK?
The liars at WSJ claimed that SSI disability was being "TAPPED" by people who were not disabled but had merely run out of UE benefits and used the increase in the number of "APPLICATIONS" as their "proof." What the liars at the WSJ left out, (the most professional liars tell just enough "truth" to deceive and then shut up), was that the number of REJECTIONS has also increased. That means that able bodied people who only applied because their UE ran out are not "TAPPING" the disability fund,
That's right, as more apply, more get rejected.
Keep digging yourself a hole Ed.
The OP gives some numbers on the actual increase in the number of people on disability.....you can do the math yourself. Or maybe you can't.
Again we see what lying scum CON$ervofascists are, your link actually rebuts the CON$ervoFascist lie!!!Here, Ed.
Your own beloved Huffy-Puff makes the same connection.
Rise In Disability Rolls Helps Explain An Unemployment Mystery
From your own link:
So does the rise in disability rolls solve some of the labor-force mystery? Not exactly.
The extra number of workers clambering onto the disability lifeboat since the recession began may account for about a quarter of the drop in the labor force participation rate since the recession began, according to the Bloomberg story, citing research notes by JPMorgan Chase and Morgan Stanley.
But that still leaves millions of people out of the work force for different reasons. A lot are discouraged and have given up hope of finding work, certainly.
But the majority of them, likely, have just decided to retire, many economists think. And given the aging of the Baby Boom demographic, that will likely continue, meaning labor-force participation will continue to be sluggish and the unemployment rate may never fully reflect just how many people are out of work.
What's more, it would be a mistake to think that the recent jump in disability benefits is in any way unusual. Disability claims tend to rise during recessions, and the pace of growth since the latest recession hasn't been any faster than the pace of growth in past recessions.
Though it may disappoint readers who want to use rising disability claims to suggest President Obama has launched a socialist nanny state, disability rolls have in fact been rising pretty much steadily since the Reagan administration, which is another mystery economists have been trying to solve for a long time.
Serious question, how does only 80k jobs not bring the UE up when you need at least 250k to stay even with population growth?
How is this possible month after month? I seriously would like an answer.
When caught lying, CON$ervoFascists just keep on lying. The number of people on disability has been increasing since the Reagan economic "miracle."As anyone with any level of awareness knows the WSJ has lost all credibility since Murdoch bought it, which my post which you did not address proved!
The liars at WSJ claimed that SSI disability was being "TAPPED" by people who were not disabled but had merely run out of UE benefits and used the increase in the number of "APPLICATIONS" as their "proof." What the liars at the WSJ left out, (the most professional liars tell just enough "truth" to deceive and then shut up), was that the number of REJECTIONS has also increased. That means that able bodied people who only applied because their UE ran out are not "TAPPING" the disability fund,
That's right, as more apply, more get rejected.
Keep digging yourself a hole Ed.
The OP gives some numbers on the actual increase in the number of people on disability.....you can do the math yourself. Or maybe you can't.
"In just the last month, almost 275,000 put in applications for disability benefits." Does not not mean they will qualify. Lies by insinuation and omission.
Now you want to Blame Obama for people's disabilities?
Age and Bush's 2 wars have everything to do with it.imagine old people being to old to work.
damned those old people
Age has nothing to do with this.
Only an imbecile such as yourself would make this leap.
The don't call him "Special Ed" for nothing...Again we see what lying scum CON$ervofascists are, your link actually rebuts the CON$ervoFascist lie!!!Here, Ed.
Your own beloved Huffy-Puff makes the same connection.
Rise In Disability Rolls Helps Explain An Unemployment Mystery
From your own link:
So does the rise in disability rolls solve some of the labor-force mystery? Not exactly.
The extra number of workers clambering onto the disability lifeboat since the recession began may account for about a quarter of the drop in the labor force participation rate since the recession began, according to the Bloomberg story, citing research notes by JPMorgan Chase and Morgan Stanley.
But that still leaves millions of people out of the work force for different reasons. A lot are discouraged and have given up hope of finding work, certainly.
But the majority of them, likely, have just decided to retire, many economists think. And given the aging of the Baby Boom demographic, that will likely continue, meaning labor-force participation will continue to be sluggish and the unemployment rate may never fully reflect just how many people are out of work.
What's more, it would be a mistake to think that the recent jump in disability benefits is in any way unusual. Disability claims tend to rise during recessions, and the pace of growth since the latest recession hasn't been any faster than the pace of growth in past recessions.
Though it may disappoint readers who want to use rising disability claims to suggest President Obama has launched a socialist nanny state, disability rolls have in fact been rising pretty much steadily since the Reagan administration, which is another mystery economists have been trying to solve for a long time.
So they don't KNOW either.
But the almighty Ed does.
ok
Non sequiturEconomic hardship causes suicide-rate increase, experts speculate
by Alexandra Gallucci
Feb 28, 2012
Alex Gallucci/MEDILL
The rate of suicide in the U.S. has increased every year since 2005, according to CDC data.
Related Links
American Foundation for Suicide PreventionSuicide Prevention Resource CenterNational Suicide Prevention Lifeline
The rate of suicide in the U.S., steadily going up almost every year since 2000, has reached its highest rate in 15 years, an increase that experts say may be a reflection of the nations economic hardship.Economic hardship causes suicide-rate increase, experts speculate
Began in the Bush's administration.
Serious question, how does only 80k jobs not bring the UE up when you need at least 250k to stay even with population growth?
How is this possible month after month? I seriously would like an answer.
We need 100,000 jobs a month to stay even, not 250,000.
What the hell is this Stupid Chick doing? Just flooding a Topic About the UE numbers with unrelated stuff?
lol
As I said, when CON$ervoFascists get caught lying, they simply lie some more.When caught lying, CON$ervoFascists just keep on lying. The number of people on disability has been increasing since the Reagan economic "miracle."Keep digging yourself a hole Ed.
The OP gives some numbers on the actual increase in the number of people on disability.....you can do the math yourself. Or maybe you can't.
Yes, turdball...
And as YOUR article points out....there is an increase of the number of people on the rolls whenever there is a dip in the economy.
Why don't you shove your self-righteous attitude up your oversized ass ?
As I said, when CON$ervoFascists get caught lying, they simply lie some more.When caught lying, CON$ervoFascists just keep on lying. The number of people on disability has been increasing since the Reagan economic "miracle."
Yes, turdball...
And as YOUR article points out....there is an increase of the number of people on the rolls whenever there is a dip in the economy.
Why don't you shove your self-righteous attitude up your oversized ass ?
As the chart you pretend not to be able to see shows, the number of disabled declined throughout the Reagan Recession, and started to rise as soon as the Reagan Recession ended in Dec 1982, and has been rising ever since whether the economy was booming or busting.
3.1 Million Workers Join Disability Ranks Vs. 2.6 Million That Got Jobs In Obama Recovery - Investors.com
The economy created just 80,000 jobs in June, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Friday. But that same month, 85,000 workers left the workforce entirely to enroll in the Social Security Disability Insurance program, according to the Social Security Administration.
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Once you are on disability....do you ever come off ?
This is starting to look like a huge scam.
Your own link makes a liar out of you. the old WSJ won ALL those prizes BEFORE Murdoch took over in Dec 2007. Since then it has been nothing but a right-wing propaganda rag.Ed, I don't know you, but your stating WSJ has lost credibility makes you appear nothing more then a crank.
The Wall Street Journal is an American English-language international daily newspaper. It is published in New York City by Dow Jones & Company, a division of News Corporation, along with the Asian and European editions of the Journal.
The Journal is the largest newspaper in the United States, by circulation. According to the Audit Bureau of Circulations, it has a circulation of 2.1 million copies (including 400,000 online paid subscriptions), as of March 2010,[2] compared to USA Today's 1.8 million. Its main rival, in the business newspaper sector, is the London-based Financial Times, which also publishes several international editions.
The Journal primarily covers American economic and international business topics, and financial news and issues. Its name derives from Wall Street, located in New York City, which is the heart of the financial district; it has been printed continuously since its inception on July 8, 1889, by Charles Dow, Edward Jones, and Charles Bergstresser. The newspaper version has won the Pulitzer Prize thirty-three times,[3] including 2007 prizes for its reporting on backdated stock options and the adverse effects of China's booming economy.
The Wall Street Journal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
So now you are claiming that a change in the law in 1984 and not the economy caused the number of disabled to rise.As I said, when CON$ervoFascists get caught lying, they simply lie some more.Yes, turdball...
And as YOUR article points out....there is an increase of the number of people on the rolls whenever there is a dip in the economy.
Why don't you shove your self-righteous attitude up your oversized ass ?
As the chart you pretend not to be able to see shows, the number of disabled declined throughout the Reagan Recession, and started to rise as soon as the Reagan Recession ended in Dec 1982, and has been rising ever since whether the economy was booming or busting.
No dickweed....your article says what a lot of others say.....it correlates quite well.
Another tidbit you seemed to miss as your head was headed back up your ass was that laws passed in 1984 made it a whole hell of a lot easier to get on disability.
3.1 Million Workers Join Disability Ranks Vs. 2.6 Million That Got Jobs In Obama Recovery - Investors.com
More workers joined the federal government's disability program in June than got new jobs, according to two new government reports, a clear indicator of how bleak the nation's jobs picture is after three full years of economic recovery.
The economy created just 80,000 jobs in June, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Friday. But that same month, 85,000 workers left the workforce entirely to enroll in the Social Security Disability Insurance program, according to the Social Security Administration.
The disability ranks have outpaced job growth throughout President Obama's economic recovery. While the economy has created 2.6 million jobs since June 2009, fully 3.1 million workers signed up for disability benefits.
In other words, the number of new disability enrollees has climbed 19% faster than the number of new jobs created during the sluggish recovery. (Even after accounting for people who left the disability program because they died or aged into retirement, the disability ranks have climbed more than 1.1 million in the past three years.)
And the disability ranks will continue to swell. In just the last month, almost 275,000 put in applications for disability benefits. Experts say that more people try to get on disability when jobs are scarce, and changes to eligibility rules enacted back in 1984 have made it far easier to qualify.
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Once you are on disability....do you ever come off ?
This is starting to look like a huge scam.
When caught lying, CON$ervofascists just keep repeating their lies.3.1 Million Workers Join Disability Ranks Vs. 2.6 Million That Got Jobs In Obama Recovery - Investors.com
More workers joined the federal government's disability program in June than got new jobs, according to two new government reports, a clear indicator of how bleak the nation's jobs picture is after three full years of economic recovery.
The economy created just 80,000 jobs in June, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Friday. But that same month, 85,000 workers left the workforce entirely to enroll in the Social Security Disability Insurance program, according to the Social Security Administration.
The disability ranks have outpaced job growth throughout President Obama's economic recovery. While the economy has created 2.6 million jobs since June 2009, fully 3.1 million workers signed up for disability benefits.
In other words, the number of new disability enrollees has climbed 19% faster than the number of new jobs created during the sluggish recovery. (Even after accounting for people who left the disability program because they died or aged into retirement, the disability ranks have climbed more than 1.1 million in the past three years.)
And the disability ranks will continue to swell. In just the last month, almost 275,000 put in applications for disability benefits. Experts say that more people try to get on disability when jobs are scarce, and changes to eligibility rules enacted back in 1984 have made it far easier to qualify.
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Once you are on disability....do you ever come off ?
This is starting to look like a huge scam.
We'll just pull this forward so people don't have to read Ed's raving stupidity.