79% drop in food stamp consumption...

[Darkwind]

Well now, isn't this interesting. Something I have been advocating for over 15 years.....either make them work for the benefit, volunteer for the benefit, or learn a trade for the benefit......and what happens.....suddenly, they would rather go with less food than work....Yet, its a drop of 79%.....

Here is a little math problem for you all. If we can reduce the entitlement expenditure of the Federal budget to just 21% of its current rate, and apply that 79% to paying off the debt....how long will that take?

Oh, and here is the article.....I haven't verified the facts of the story yet....so there may be more to it than meets the eye....

This Is What Happened When Maine Forced Welfare Recipients To Work For Their Benefits

At the close of 2014 approximately 12,000 individuals were enrolled in the state assistance program. Keep in mind that these individuals are adults who aren’t disabled and who don’t have children at home and who are claiming the food-stamp benefits because of a lack of financial resources.

After forcing these individuals to either work part-time for twenty hours each week, enroll in a vocational program, or volunteer for a minimum of twenty-four hours per month, the numbers showed a significant drop from 12,000 enrollees to just over 2,500.

More at the link

 

[Wyatt earp]

Seriously you using the state of Maine as an example? The Bob newhart show? What is this a joke?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Both cons and libs miss that requiring public works in return for food stamps and other assistance are win win for the nation and those in need and the workers.

 

[MACAULAY]

Seriously you using the state of Maine as an example? The Bob newhart show? What is this a joke?

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Maine is used as an example because it, unlike other states, has had the stones to cut through the Political Correctness BullShit and do something about...not people who can't work...but people who are too lazy to work.

Our Tax Dollars, and those of our children when the money is borrowed, are going to pay people who can, but will not--Work.

The Liberal/Socialists have claimed that there are no such people. The courageous Maine experiment proves what anyone but a Pinhead already knows: That if you give people a subsistance, many of them will gladly forego the stress and aggravation of a job and a boss---and sit on the Porch. (Its always been true throughout history--for most people who have ever lived have been very glad for just that: A Subsistence---its in our genes, some cultures more than others.)

The Socialists/Democrats have thrown such massive amounts of our money at the Lazy People that they have made them too lazy to even bother to vote, and so they are hauling in Mexicans to handle that.

Maine is very relevant in this particular case. Good for Maine.

 

[Darkwind]

Seriously you using the state of Maine as an example? The Bob newhart show? What is this a joke?

I'm not using anything.....Its going on, right now. If that program works, then it can be parsed over to the Federal level...

 

[Darkwind]

Seriously you using the state of Maine as an example? The Bob newhart show? What is this a joke?

_________________

Maine is used as an example because it, unlike other states, has had the stones to cut through the Political Correctness BullShit and do something about...not people who can't work...but people who are too lazy to work.

Our Tax Dollars, and those of our children when the money is borrowed, are going to pay people who can, but will not--Work.

The Liberal/Socialists have claimed that there are no such people. The courageous Maine experiment proves what anyone but a Pinhead already knows: That if you give people a subsistance, many of them will gladly forego the stress and aggravation of a job and a boss---and sit on the Porch. (Its always been true throughout history--for most people who have ever lived have been very glad for just that: A Subsistence---its in our genes, some cultures more than others.)

The Socialists/Democrats have thrown such massive amounts of our money at the Lazy People that they have made them too lazy to even bother to vote, and so they are hauling in Mexicans to handle that.

Maine is very relevant in this particular case. Good for Maine.

Yep...and what is amazing is that the numbers are mind blowing......I could have figured a 30 to 40 percent drop in consumption.....but nearly 80%!

Wow.

 

[Ringel05]

The problem is the author of your link is obviously biased and is only telling part of the story. Anyone who has had to deal with the government (Federal, state and local), knows the one size fits all approach is the stock in trade and in reality absolute bull shit.
How many were dropped that should not have been because they didn't know how to fight it or didn't think they could fight it?
Thousands dropped from Maine welfare rolls after rules enforcement upped Breaking News Times Free Press

Big changes next month for Maine welfare recipients - The Portland Press Herald Maine Sunday Telegram

Granted there are those who take advantage of these type of programs but unfortunately the way the government approaches solutions generally means rampant abuse or rampant disservice.

 

[Darkwind]

The problem is the author of your link is obviously biased and is only telling part of the story. Anyone who has had to deal with the government (Federal, state and local), knows the one size fits all approach is the stock in trade and in reality absolute bull shit.
How many were dropped that should not have been because they didn't know how to fight it or didn't think they could fight it?
Thousands dropped from Maine welfare rolls after rules enforcement upped Breaking News Times Free Press

Big changes next month for Maine welfare recipients - The Portland Press Herald Maine Sunday Telegram

Granted there are those who take advantage of these type of programs but unfortunately the way the government approaches solutions generally means rampant abuse or rampant disservice.

If they are able to work but chose not to, why should they receive this benefit? If they only have to perform a public service like volunteerign to work in a public assistance program, or taking a few classes that will help them get jobs....how is it they are getting screwed? I can see why some of them would want to fight it if they could, but reality is, they are getting a freebie and they know it.

I guess I just don't understand your objection to this. Then numbers are staggering, and provide significant proof of fraud....though I doubt it will ever be prosecuted.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The libs argue that no one is simply lazy and the cons argue everyone can a job who wants one,

Both are flatly wrong.

Public work for public benefits does work well.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Seriously you using the state of Maine as an example? The Bob newhart show? What is this a joke?

I'm not using anything.....Its going on, right now. If that program works, then it can be parsed over to the Federal level...

Dude its maine , its like sweden

 

[Darkwind]

Seriously you using the state of Maine as an example? The Bob newhart show? What is this a joke?

I'm not using anything.....Its going on, right now. If that program works, then it can be parsed over to the Federal level...

Dude its maine , its like sweden

I guess that makes sense to you.....

 

[MACAULAY]

The problem is the author of your link is obviously biased and is only telling part of the story. Anyone who has had to deal with the government (Federal, state and local), knows the one size fits all approach is the stock in trade and in reality absolute bull shit.
How many were dropped that should not have been because they didn't know how to fight it or didn't think they could fight it?
Thousands dropped from Maine welfare rolls after rules enforcement upped Breaking News Times Free Press

Big changes next month for Maine welfare recipients - The Portland Press Herald Maine Sunday Telegram

Granted there are those who take advantage of these type of programs but unfortunately the way the government approaches solutions generally means rampant abuse or rampant disservice.

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Thanks for your articles. One cited one person who was irritated because she had to file some paperwork to keep getting her benefits. Well, BooHoo.

The other includes this, which I did not know:

"The newest rules come months after LePage announced that Maine would cut off all funding for a municipal welfare program to cities and towns that continue to provide benefits to immigrants who can’t prove they’re living in the state legally."

Good for Maine again.

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[Wyatt earp]

Seriously you using the state of Maine as an example? The Bob newhart show? What is this a joke?

I'm not using anything.....Its going on, right now. If that program works, then it can be parsed over to the Federal level...

Dude its maine , its like sweden

I guess that makes sense to you.....

You are acting and debating like a liberal, were not the same

 

[Darkwind]

Seriously you using the state of Maine as an example? The Bob newhart show? What is this a joke?

I'm not using anything.....Its going on, right now. If that program works, then it can be parsed over to the Federal level...

Dude its maine , its like sweden

I guess that makes sense to you.....

You are acting and debating like a liberal, were not the same

No we're not. However, this is working.....I don't care if it is Manhattan.....the bluest of blue....if it reduces entitlement expenditures to 21% of rate, I'm all for it.

 

[Wyatt earp]

You don't even get it OP, it's 50 states, what flys in one state , not the same in the others

 

[Ringel05]

The problem is the author of your link is obviously biased and is only telling part of the story. Anyone who has had to deal with the government (Federal, state and local), knows the one size fits all approach is the stock in trade and in reality absolute bull shit.
How many were dropped that should not have been because they didn't know how to fight it or didn't think they could fight it?
Thousands dropped from Maine welfare rolls after rules enforcement upped Breaking News Times Free Press

Big changes next month for Maine welfare recipients - The Portland Press Herald Maine Sunday Telegram

Granted there are those who take advantage of these type of programs but unfortunately the way the government approaches solutions generally means rampant abuse or rampant disservice.

If they are able to work but chose not to, why should they receive this benefit? If they only have to perform a public service like volunteerign to work in a public assistance program, or taking a few classes that will help them get jobs....how is it they are getting screwed? I can see why some of them would want to fight it if they could, but reality is, they are getting a freebie and they know it.

I guess I just don't understand your objection to this. Then numbers are staggering, and provide significant proof of fraud....though I doubt it will ever be prosecuted.

It's called reality, not a black and white political mindset which is why you don't understand. Did you click on the links? Knowing how government works I guarantee that at minimum 20% of those dropped were actually in qualification and couldn't fight it or didn't know how to fight it so the actual numbers should have been in the 50 to 60% range.
Hell you know as well as I that politicians can fuck up a wet dream if they had control over it.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Seriously you using the state of Maine as an example? The Bob newhart show? What is this a joke?

I'm not using anything.....Its going on, right now. If that program works, then it can be parsed over to the Federal level...

Dude its maine , its like sweden

I guess that makes sense to you.....

You are acting and debating like a liberal, were not the same

No we're not. However, this is working.....I don't care if it is Manhattan.....the bluest of blue....if it reduces entitlement expenditures to 21% of rate, I'm all for it.

I am going racist on you, how many blacks, how many mexicans live in maine? Its like sweden

 

[Darkwind]

The problem is the author of your link is obviously biased and is only telling part of the story. Anyone who has had to deal with the government (Federal, state and local), knows the one size fits all approach is the stock in trade and in reality absolute bull shit.
How many were dropped that should not have been because they didn't know how to fight it or didn't think they could fight it?
Thousands dropped from Maine welfare rolls after rules enforcement upped Breaking News Times Free Press

Big changes next month for Maine welfare recipients - The Portland Press Herald Maine Sunday Telegram

Granted there are those who take advantage of these type of programs but unfortunately the way the government approaches solutions generally means rampant abuse or rampant disservice.

If they are able to work but chose not to, why should they receive this benefit? If they only have to perform a public service like volunteerign to work in a public assistance program, or taking a few classes that will help them get jobs....how is it they are getting screwed? I can see why some of them would want to fight it if they could, but reality is, they are getting a freebie and they know it.

I guess I just don't understand your objection to this. Then numbers are staggering, and provide significant proof of fraud....though I doubt it will ever be prosecuted.

It's called reality, not a black and white political mindset which is why you don't understand. Did you click on the links? Knowing how government works I guarantee that at minimum 20% of those dropped were actually in qualification and couldn't fight it or didn't know how to fight it so the actual numbers should have been in the 50 to 60% range.
Hell you know as well as I that politicians can fuck up a wet dream if they had control over it.

Here is where you nonsense gets out of hand.

There is no involuntary 'dropping'.......Understand yet? They are free to remain ON THE FOOD STAMPS...for as long as they can....they simply have to do something for them.

 

[Darkwind]

I'm not using anything.....Its going on, right now. If that program works, then it can be parsed over to the Federal level...

Dude its maine , its like sweden

I guess that makes sense to you.....

You are acting and debating like a liberal, were not the same

No we're not. However, this is working.....I don't care if it is Manhattan.....the bluest of blue....if it reduces entitlement expenditures to 21% of rate, I'm all for it.

I am going racist on you, how many blacks, how many mexicans live in maine? Its like sweden

Last I counted, 8 minus the guy who was running for free bacon in Vermont!

 

[Darkwind]

You don't even get it OP, it's 50 states, what flys in one state , not the same in the others

I disagree.....