70th anniversary of Pearl Harbor coming up

[whitehall]

Pearl Harbor is the mother of all conspiracies. Hard core evidence indicates that FDR was desperate to get the US into another democrat failure of interhnational relations just like Woodie Wilson did a couple of decades before. First of all there was no "US intelligence service" in the 30's and prior to WW2. The Brits were shocked to see that Congress was in the process of determining whether Hoover's G-Men FBI or the clowns in "wild Bill" Donovan's OSS should be the lead espionage agency. Congress voted for J. Edgar. While FDR's real estate crooks were busy confiscating American Japanese property in California and sending Americans into concentration camps, the Philippine Army was led by an old Soldier who thought he was a political envoy. By April of 1942 the entire Philippine Army would surrender.

 

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Got this in an email...

Today is the 70th Anniversary of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. In light of that, I pass along the following:

3 Pearl Harbor Mistakes:

A very different and interesting conclusion of the December 7th attack on Pearl Harbor. Read on....

Tour boats ferry people out to the USS Arizona Memorial in Hawaii every thirty minutes.We just missed a ferry and had to wait thirty minutes. I went into a small gift shop to kill time. In the gift shop, I purchased a small book entitled, "Reflections on Pearl Harbor " by Admiral Chester Nimitz.Sunday, December 7th, 1941--Admiral Chester Nimitz was attending a concert in Washington D.C.

He was paged and told there was a phone call for him. When he answered the phone, it was President Franklin Delano Roosevelt. He told Admiral Nimitz that he (Nimitz) would now be the Commander of the Pacific Fleet. Admiral Nimitz flew to Hawaii to assume command of the Pacific Fleet. He landed at Pearl Harbor on Christmas Eve, 1941. There was such a spirit of despair, dejection and defeat - you would have thought the Japanese had already won the war.

On Christmas Day, 1941, Adm. Nimitz was given a boat tour of the destruction wrought on Pearl Harbor by the Japanese. Big sunken battleships and navy vessels cluttered the waters every where you looked.As the tour boat returned to dock, the young helmsman of the boat asked, "Well Admiral, what do you think after seeing all this destruction?"

Admiral Nimitz's reply shocked everyone within the sound of his voice. Admiral Nimitz said, "The Japanese made three of the biggest mistakes an attack force could ever make, or God was taking care of America. Which do you think it was?"

Shocked and surprised, the young helmsman asked, "What do mean by saying the Japanese made the three biggest mistakes an attack force ever made?" Nimitz explained: Mistake number one: the Japanese attacked on Sunday morning. Nine out of every ten crewmen of those ships were ashore on leave. If those same ships had been lured to sea and been sunk-- we would have lost 38,000 men instead of 3,800.

Mistake number two: when the Japanese saw all those battleships lined in a row, they got so carried away sinking those battleships, they never once bombed our dry docks opposite those ships.If they had destroyed our dry docks, we would have had to tow everyone of those ships to America to be repaired. As it is now, the ships are in shallow water and can be raised. One tug can pull them over to the dry docks, and we can have them repaired and at sea by the time we could have towed them to America. And I already have crews ashore anxious to man those ships.

Mistake number three: Every drop of fuel in the Pacific theater of war is on top of the ground in storage tanks five miles away over that hill.One attack plane could have strafed those tanks and destroyed our fuel supply. That's why I say the Japanese made three of the biggest mistakes an attack force could make, or God was taking care of America .

I've never forgotten what I read in that little book. It is still an inspiration as I reflect upon it.In jest, I might suggest that because Admiral Nimitz was a Texan, born and raised in Fredricksburg , Texas -- he was a born optimist. But anyway you look at it--Admiral Nimitz was able to see a silver lining in a situation and circumstance where everyone else saw only despair and defeatism. President Roosevelt had chosen the right man for the right job.We desperately needed a leader that could see silver linings in the midst of the clouds of dejection, despair and defeat.

There is a reason that our national motto is, " IN GOD WE TRUST "

Thank you for that.

Leadership is so rare that many don't know what it is until you see it up close.

 

[whitehall]

My personal opinion is that ignorant endemic racism in the FDR administration is the only logical reason outside of treason that justifies the negligence that resulted in the Pearl Harbor debacle. Ignorance led the government to assume that the war in the Pacific against "nearsighted little monkies who couldn't make a plane that would fly or a ship that would float" would be a pushover. The FDR administration's message to the Japanese after the oil embargo was "bring it on". Chief of staff George Marshall held the document in his hands the morning of Dec. 7th 1941 and he read and re-read it and re-re-read it until it was too late to warn pearl Harbor of the iminent attack. The Army message system was (conveniently?) down and Marshall's message to warn Pearl Harbor of the attack was sent by Western Union telegraph and arrived at the same time as the Japanese Zeroes. The buck stops at the Chief of Staff. In a more just world without government control of the media Marshall might have faced Court Martial rather than getting away with blaming subordinates for his failure of leadership.

 

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Got this in an email...

Today is the 70th Anniversary of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. In light of that, I pass along the following:

3 Pearl Harbor Mistakes:

A very different and interesting conclusion of the December 7th attack on Pearl Harbor. Read on....

Tour boats ferry people out to the USS Arizona Memorial in Hawaii every thirty minutes.We just missed a ferry and had to wait thirty minutes. I went into a small gift shop to kill time. In the gift shop, I purchased a small book entitled, "Reflections on Pearl Harbor " by Admiral Chester Nimitz.Sunday, December 7th, 1941--Admiral Chester Nimitz was attending a concert in Washington D.C.

He was paged and told there was a phone call for him. When he answered the phone, it was President Franklin Delano Roosevelt. He told Admiral Nimitz that he (Nimitz) would now be the Commander of the Pacific Fleet. Admiral Nimitz flew to Hawaii to assume command of the Pacific Fleet. He landed at Pearl Harbor on Christmas Eve, 1941. There was such a spirit of despair, dejection and defeat - you would have thought the Japanese had already won the war.

On Christmas Day, 1941, Adm. Nimitz was given a boat tour of the destruction wrought on Pearl Harbor by the Japanese. Big sunken battleships and navy vessels cluttered the waters every where you looked.As the tour boat returned to dock, the young helmsman of the boat asked, "Well Admiral, what do you think after seeing all this destruction?"

Admiral Nimitz's reply shocked everyone within the sound of his voice. Admiral Nimitz said, "The Japanese made three of the biggest mistakes an attack force could ever make, or God was taking care of America. Which do you think it was?"

Shocked and surprised, the young helmsman asked, "What do mean by saying the Japanese made the three biggest mistakes an attack force ever made?" Nimitz explained: Mistake number one: the Japanese attacked on Sunday morning. Nine out of every ten crewmen of those ships were ashore on leave. If those same ships had been lured to sea and been sunk-- we would have lost 38,000 men instead of 3,800.

Mistake number two: when the Japanese saw all those battleships lined in a row, they got so carried away sinking those battleships, they never once bombed our dry docks opposite those ships.If they had destroyed our dry docks, we would have had to tow everyone of those ships to America to be repaired. As it is now, the ships are in shallow water and can be raised. One tug can pull them over to the dry docks, and we can have them repaired and at sea by the time we could have towed them to America. And I already have crews ashore anxious to man those ships.

Mistake number three: Every drop of fuel in the Pacific theater of war is on top of the ground in storage tanks five miles away over that hill.One attack plane could have strafed those tanks and destroyed our fuel supply. That's why I say the Japanese made three of the biggest mistakes an attack force could make, or God was taking care of America .

I've never forgotten what I read in that little book. It is still an inspiration as I reflect upon it.In jest, I might suggest that because Admiral Nimitz was a Texan, born and raised in Fredricksburg , Texas -- he was a born optimist. But anyway you look at it--Admiral Nimitz was able to see a silver lining in a situation and circumstance where everyone else saw only despair and defeatism. President Roosevelt had chosen the right man for the right job.We desperately needed a leader that could see silver linings in the midst of the clouds of dejection, despair and defeat.

There is a reason that our national motto is, " IN GOD WE TRUST "

PH was a disaster - for the Japs.

Apparant the DAY AFTER Dec 7, 1941.

Aroused America to rightous fury - in a manner not seen before or since.

Sure - America would probably have gotten into WW2 sooner or later -and the Allies still would have won. But it would not have been so quick and decisive.

And the attack itself was a strategic blunder - a failure............................

 

[whitehall]

You can't blame Nimitz for trying to put a happy face on a humiliating disaster. While the Admirals were pumping themselves up about the Japanese "mistake", the Philippine Army was in retreat and by April MacArthur will try to put a happy face on his abandonment (under orders) of his entire Army to a horrible death in the Battan Death March.