65 Girls At Ohio High School Pregnant

[William Joyce]

Yes - and the blacks are starved for lack of food in Africa, shot in the ghetto, etc. - so they must reproduce at high rates to continue as a people. It may sound weird, but you must read the book. Rushton discusses the "r-K" scale --- fascinating stuff. If you think it's "racist," well, it is, although he notes that Asians are higher than whites on the scale.

Recent proof:

http://www.local6.com/news/5442316/detail.html

 

[Gem]

Sex Ed...whether it is all abstinence, half-abstinence, or abstinence free doesn't matter one little bit when the kids leave school and enter a society that worships sex and stresses that the ultimate things you can do with your body is to screw as many people in as many different ways as possible.

As an example, I point you to my college newspaper....
http://www.pittnews.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/11/29/438bf3369d527
I urge you to read it, its....eyeopening.

What was the point of the article? There was none that I could see other than to discuss at great length the various sex acts the couple enjoys engaging in. Sex for sex's sake...

I just think that arguments about appropriate sex ed classes are, at this point in our society, are a bit like arguing about whether or not to serve red or white wine with the chicken while aboard the sinking Titanic.

Until we, as a country, deal with the fact that we are telling our young people with every breath that there is no reason NOT to have sex but there are a million reasons to screw around with everyone you meet...and then trying to tell them that they shouldn't do it or that if they do they should were a condom during one class period during 1/2 a marking period of a school year is laughable.

 

[Avatar4321]

likely that a good sex ed class will demystify sex, implant a proper fear of pregnancy and its consequences, and implant an even greater fear of STD's--and therefore reduce teen pregnancy and STD's?

As for how pregnant teens were treated in the past, has anyone here seen that awful movie about the Irish laundresses? Pregnant girls were sent to workhouses, having brought shame on their entire families. There they were often abused by the self-righteous nuns. Were the good old days really so good?

Mariner.

No not really likely. I remember the first time they taught sex ed to me in school. I had no clue what the heck they were talking about at the time. The class had no benefit whatsoever. I mean the only thing it helped me understand is that there was something called sex.

 

[musicman]

[Isn't it just as]likely that a good sex ed class will demystify sex, implant a proper fear of pregnancy and its consequences, and implant an even greater fear of STD's--and therefore reduce teen pregnancy and STD's?

Wow - maybe we should try that. Oh, wait - we HAVE, and it has produced precisely the opposite effect. What was I saying eight posts ago? Oh, yeah: "Liberal socialists have had it their way for the last thirty years - with disastrous results".

As for how pregnant teens were treated in the past, has anyone here seen that awful movie about the Irish laundresses? Pregnant girls were sent to workhouses, having brought shame on their entire families. There they were often abused by the self-righteous nuns. Were the good old days really so good?

Mariner.

I don't know, man - I thought you were talking movies.

Pregnancy out of wedlock used to carry a stigma. Was THAT such a bad thing?

 

[Mariner]

a true story, and was not supposed to be exaggerated. I'll ask my wife what it was called. She's Irish, and had nuns as relatives, and therefore found this a very interesting topic--especially since she also worked as a nurse in an integrated high school for many years. This experience made her, despite her Catholic upbringing and traditional family, a strong proponent of sex ed and making contraception available on demand. Don't forget, one leading theory about the reduction in crime rates through the 90s is that it came from the availability of abortion and contraception, which prevented many people who weren't ready to be parents from raising their children neglectfully or abusively.

The racism in a couple of the above posts is disgusting. Get over it people--genetically, races don't exist. They are cultural creations. There is more diversity among a handful of Africans than among all the peoples outside Africa combined (see for example, the interesting book "The Seven Daughters of Eve"). I have a friend who is South African. To her, there are 4 races (white, black, colored, and Indian). She's "colored" and proud of it--and very offended if called black, which Americans consider her to be. Similarly, Southern Europeans used to be considered a (stupid) separate race that needed to be kept from diluting the genes of the (smart) northern Europeans. Based on genetic diversity, the smartest, most athletic, and most-anything people in the world are likely in Africa--they just lack the opportunity to show it... in large part because of the race-justified history of exploitation of that country by the self-righteous Christian white nations of Europe. Even India's poverty can be traced to the legacy of British colonialism. At the time the British invaded, India's GNP was 17% of the entire world's, while England's was 3%. The British raped the country (cut off the silk-weavers' hands so the value-added manufacturing could take place in Britain rather than India). Similarly with the Belgians and the Congo, etc., etc. The history of European arrogance is disgusting beyond belief.

Differences in the performance of different groups of people in the U.S. are traceable to history. Asians here look great because immigration policies encourage the Asian engineers and doctors while keeping out the rest. Blacks struggle with the legacy of slavery and its continued repercussions. As someone put it, "your grandmother owned property. My grandmother was property."

There's an exhibit about the 200 year history of slavery in NYC that I'm looking forward to seeing. At one point 20% of the population were slaves. If those had been paid workers rather than forced labor, black people in America would look quite different today.

Mariner.

 

[Yurt]

never beeeeeeeen to O HI O and you can't prove otherwise.

that is my story and i am sticking to it

Liar.

:funnyface

 

[Powerman]

CANTON, Ohio -- There are 490 female students at Timken High School, and 65 are pregnant, according to a recent report in the Canton Repository.

The article reported that some would say that movies, TV, videogames, lazy parents and lax discipline may all be to blame.

School officials are not sure they what has caused so many pregnancies, but in response to them, the school is launching a three-prong educational program to address pregnancy, prevention and parenting.

The newspaper also reported that students will face mounting tensions created by unplanned child-rearing responsibilities, causing students to quit school and plan for a GED. This will make it difficult for the Canton City School District to shake its academic watch designation by the state.

According to the Canton Health Department, statistics through July show that 104 of the 586 babies born to Canton residents in Aultman Hospital and Mercy Medical Center had mothers between 11 and 19.

The newspaper reports that the non-Canton rate was 7 percent. Canton was 15 percent.

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/4885861/detail.html
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Ummm....two things. They aren't sure what caused it? How about a "one-pronged" approach from the guys?

And..prevention? Isn't it a little late?

School demographics:

http://www.publicschoolreview.com/school_ov/school_id/61685

Send them all straight to the abortion clinic.

 

[musicman]

Send them all straight to the abortion clinic.

Hell, man - it's too late for that; they're already grown up, and screwing.

Oh - you mean their BABIES!!

Why punish them? And, why so SEVERELY??!!

Originally posted 12/1/05 - post #35 in this thread.

 

[Powerman]

Hell, man - it's too late for that; they're already grown up, and screwing.

Oh - you mean their BABIES!!

Why punish them? And, why so SEVERELY??!!

Originally posted 12/1/05 - post #35 in this thread.

OK force them to give their kids up for adoption then. One thing is for certain. They don't have any business raising these kids.

 

[musicman]

OK force them to give their kids up for adoption then. One thing is for certain. They don't have any business raising these kids.

What the hell, Powerman - let's just take your "abortion provides a net benefit to society" design to its logical conclusion. If kids have demonstrated that they will likely be drains on the public, let's take BOLD action. Abortion? Adoption? Inefficient; time-consuming. Send a squad of armed police in and grease the little bastards where they stand. Undesirables gone, and their useless progeny with them. Problem solved.

 

[musicman]

Wow, Powerman - maybe we could just tie executions to test scores. I can feel society getting better already; reaping those "net benefits" you've been talking about!

 

[musicman]

Study hard, kids - or it's your ASS!

 

[Nienna]

What increase are you guys talking about?



Checkout the graph ...
http://childhood.families.com/teenage-pregnancy-402-405-chdv
Another site that shows the same sorta stuff beginning in the 50s..
http://www.kidsource.com/kidsource/content2/teen.pregnancy.html

Young girls (Teens) have always gotton preg..Nothing new..But as both sites show the rate is declining.

I wonder if this takes into consideration whether or not the teens were married at the time of birth. It was common, I believe, to marry very young in the earlier part of the 20th century and before that. Now, with more career options, women are marrying and starting families much later.

 

[007]

Not to sound superior or anything. But, we don't need a bunch of kids at a school that's under academic probation having babies that they can't take care of.

YA THINK???!!!!

 

[007]

And then you have a story like this....

Relax, your kids probably aren't having sex.

By Ruth Padawer
The Record (Bergen County, N.J.)
Mar. 30, 2005 12:00 AM

HACKENSACK, N.J. - Word has it that eighth-graders are having oral sex in the dugout behind the middle school - during recess. Or, the talk is of kids dodging into bushes for hanky-panky on the walk home. And in some areas, kids are rumored to be having oral sex parties when parents are away.

In a culture saturated with sex, today's young adolescents are freely passing along whatever gossip they hear. Their tales of purported trysts are echoed at PTA meetings, on the bleachers and in the supermarket aisles, as alarmed parents grill each other for details.

But hold on: According to several well-respected national surveys, the chatter apparently far surpasses action among young adolescents. Although experts agree that younger teens are far more knowledgeable about sex than previous generations, the studies find that middle-school kids are actually waiting longer to become sexually active than they did just seven years earlier. advertisement




The federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that in 2002, 13 percent of girls had had sex by the time they turned 15, down from 19 percent in 1995. The drop for boys was similar, from 21 percent to 15 percent. Rates for black teens, which had been two to 3.5 times higher than for whites, fell even more dramatically.

Although skeptics might question teens' truthfulness in reporting their own sex lives, the trend's consistency across multiple surveys suggests the data are reliable.

"The kids who are sexually active are doing it in more visible and public places - on school buses, in the cafeteria or auditorium, or at school dances," says Nora Gelperin, education director for the Network for Family Life Education at Rutgers University, the state's largest trainer of sex-education teachers. "Those isolated incidents are what we all hear about, and people then think that all middle-school kids are doing it."

Gelperin is a repository of such gossip. As one of the state's most popular trainers, she works with hundreds of health teachers and school nurses every year. At one recent session, a suburban teacher told her about the "Touchdown Club," with cheerleaders allegedly promising oral sex to any football players, even eighth-graders, who score a touchdown.

Gelperin helps instructors teach middle-schoolers effective strategies to remain abstinent, as required by the state curriculum. But her best-attended workshop is one on middle-school kids and oral sex.

CASE OF CRYING 'WOLF'?

Public alarm about teen sexual behavior is not new, of course. A sharply rising teen pregnancy rate fed concern in the 1980s. And although the 1990s saw a drop in sexual activity among older teens, studies then found the proportion of sexually active girls under age 15 was soaring.

When President Clinton's Oval Office escapades moved oral sex into the public vernacular, the media were off and running.

Headlines declared middle-school oral sex an alarming new fad. Journalists casually passed on unsubstantiated rumors about sexual encounters in study halls and in a Midwestern middle-school math class. They obsessed about supposed oral sex parties. In a May 2002 broadcast, Oprah decried the "oral sex epidemic" among kids as young as 12.

So pervasive is the idea of runaway young libidos that a book due out next month is titled "Teaching True Love to a Sex-at-13 Generation." In it, the 29-year-old author - who says she lost her virginity at 15 - suggests faith-based solutions to despairing parents.

The dire warnings, however, seem undermined by facts. For starters, kids are telling researchers they're delaying sexual activity. More easily measured is the teen pregnancy rate, which fell steadily through the 1990s, particularly among those 14 and younger. Their rate dropped a whopping 40 percent from 1990 to 1999.

Some of that drop is attributed to increased contraceptive use. But experts say it's also strong evidence of a sexual-culture shift nurtured by fear of AIDS, strong public education and a changing social script that no longer defines virginity as a source of humiliation.

EPIDEMIC OF RUMORS

Still, parents worry. A few years ago, Tenafly, N.J., was abuzz with claims that countless middle-school girls had been diagnosed with sexually transmitted diseases. In Maywood, N.J., last summer, parents fretted about the jelly bracelets young girls were wearing, each color purportedly promising a different sexual favor. And today in many towns, rumors fester that kids are being sexually adventurous at parties and on buses taking them to field trips, bar mitzvahs, school overnights and even home from school each day.

"My mom is totally convinced that all those rumors are true," says Zack, a popular Bergen County, N.J., eighth-grader who had a girlfriend for most of sixth and seventh grades. "But I've been on lots of buses and to lots of parties, and there's never been anything like that.

"There's always lots of guys hanging out with girls, and maybe one or two couples making out, but nothing more than that," says Zack, who agreed to be quoted if his last name were not printed. "Most of the guys in my grade know that the real thing - you know, like, sex - is for when they're older. And most kids in our school actually look down on the kids who go too fast."

Surveys support his take. A recent poll by Princeton Survey Research Associates, commissioned by NBC and People magazine, found that 5 percent of 13- and 14-year-olds had had intercourse and 4 percent had had oral sex. Nine of 10 kids ages 13 and 14 said they frowned on kids their age having sex.

And those oral sex parties? Less than one-half of 1 percent of 13- to 16-year-olds said they'd been to one, a figure the Princeton researchers said was so small as to be statistically meaningless.

"Some kids brag about having oral sex, but my son says most kids aren't even making out," says Michelle Conahan, a Teaneck, N.J., mother of a seventh-grader. "They think they have girlfriends, but they barely talk, they only I.M. (instant message). They all know about sex, they all talk about sex, they all think about sex, but that's very different from actually having sex."

YOU COULD HIRE A GUARD

So should parents be concerned about young adolescents being sexually active?

"You betcha," says Bill Albert of the National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy. "Should they be panicked that there's an epidemic? No. The evidence just doesn't support it. There may be oral sex parties going on somewhere, and there certainly are some middle-school kids having sex, but it's far from the norm. Less than 15 percent of kids have had sex by the time they reach 15. Yes, we're moving in the right direction, but that doesn't sound like victory to me. We still have work to do."

The rumors have been a boon for Evan Wofsy, a middle-school teacher from Livingston, N.J., who doubles on weekends as the Bar Mitzvah Bouncer, a tamer of 13-year-olds at fancy affairs.

Anxious parents, including plenty from North Jersey, hire him to make sure kids don't misbehave on the bus between the synagogue and the banquet hall, or in the bathrooms, alcoves and parking lots outside the party room. He gets enough calls to keep him and a few teacher friends chaperoning well over 200 parties a year.

"Do the kids try and make out? Oh, absolutely," Wofsy says. "But more than that? It just doesn't happen. I can't say what goes on when I'm not there, but even when the kids tell me the stuff they've heard, they admit they've never actually seen any of it happen. I think things get fabricated: One thing happens and overnight, there are 14 versions of the story, none of them accurate. That's how middle-school kids are.

"Not that these kids don't keep me busy. They have food fights, throw things out of the bus window, wrestle, put toilet paper rolls in the toilet to clog it, pull fire alarms or break things or hurl party favors at each other. I've got to tell you, keeping these kids from being sexual is the last thing I have to worry about."

http://www.azcentral.com/families/articles/0329teensex30.html

 

[Bullypulpit]

CANTON, Ohio -- There are 490 female students at Timken High School, and 65 are pregnant, according to a recent report in the Canton Repository.

The article reported that some would say that movies, TV, videogames, lazy parents and lax discipline may all be to blame.

School officials are not sure they what has caused so many pregnancies, but in response to them, the school is launching a three-prong educational program to address pregnancy, prevention and parenting.

The newspaper also reported that students will face mounting tensions created by unplanned child-rearing responsibilities, causing students to quit school and plan for a GED. This will make it difficult for the Canton City School District to shake its academic watch designation by the state.

According to the Canton Health Department, statistics through July show that 104 of the 586 babies born to Canton residents in Aultman Hospital and Mercy Medical Center had mothers between 11 and 19.

The newspaper reports that the non-Canton rate was 7 percent. Canton was 15 percent.

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/4885861/detail.html
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Ummm....two things. They aren't sure what caused it? How about a "one-pronged" approach from the guys?

And..prevention? Isn't it a little late?

School demographics:

http://www.publicschoolreview.com/school_ov/school_id/61685

Hmmmm...Sounds like "abstinence only" ain't workin' now, don't it.

 

[musicman]

Hmmmm...Sounds like "abstinence only" ain't workin' now, don't it.

Right - let's just pronounce abstinence-based education a miserable failure. It's had - what - a whole five minutes to reverse the disastrous effects of liberalism's thirty-year, two-pronged attack on society: the hopelessly-entrenched entitlement mentality, and the elimination of any and all restraints on human behavior. No need to keep flogging a dead horse.

 

[007]

Send them all straight to the abortion clinic.

Soooo mister "secret left wing operative spying on our board".... it's sounds like you're a big proponent of the DEATH PENALTY.

 

[007]

Hmmmm...Sounds like "abstinence only" ain't workin' now, don't it.

Sounds more like the "oral sex isn't sex, slick willie said so, here's the first of the fifty free condoms were going to give you, practice putting it on this banana, we know you're going to screw anyway, oops we ran out of condoms lets fuck anyway" policy DIDN'T work.

And that, we all know, is YOUR policy. The LIBERAL policy.

Pulit... the ever so predictable genotypical liberal turd... "well it looks like our teach 'em how to screw using condoms didn't work after all, lets blame the conservatives".

 

[Mariner]

"The Week" magazine, which is politically neutral, reports a study of 12,000 students from grades 7-12. Those who pledged abstinence were significantly "less likely to use condoms than other teens. They were also less likely to get tested for STD's. Pledgers overall were 6 times more likely to have oral sex... male pledgers were four times more likely to have anal sex."

Sounds like abstinence works really well... for the herpes and AIDS viruses, anyway.

Mariner.