5,000-year-old "nativity scene" reportedly found in Egypt

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lol Guno probably believes everything he ever heard on Coast To Coast AM, so naturally he would have trouble parsing this fake news story.

 

[HaShev]

lol Guno probably believes everything he ever heard on Coast To Coast AM, so naturally he would have trouble parsing this fake news story.

So the story is fake without merit to why, but archaic age stories passed down the line with poor communications by people who believed spirits came put their noses when they sneezed is true to you. So using your own words: you "would have trouble parsing the fake Constantine & Eusebius good news story."

 

[Picaro]

lol Guno probably believes everything he ever heard on Coast To Coast AM, so naturally he would have trouble parsing this fake news story.

So the story is fake without merit to why, but archaic age stories passed down the line with poor communications by people who believed spirits came put their noses when they sneezed is true to you. So using your own words: you "would have trouble parsing the fake Constantine & Eusebius good news story."

the obvious fact is you're a moron and don't know any more than Guno does, and the merit and why of that is your own posting history. no need for anybody to waste time parsing nonsense.

 

[Political Junky]

lol Guno probably believes everything he ever heard on Coast To Coast AM, so naturally he would have trouble parsing this fake news story.

Is this the first you've heard about this. You need to read more.

 

[Picaro]

lol Guno probably believes everything he ever heard on Coast To Coast AM, so naturally he would have trouble parsing this fake news story.

Is this the first you've heard about this. You need to read more.

I've heard it, seen the pics; I don't need to read more, it's a fanciful theory, about the level of Mexicans seeing Jesus in tortillas and on the sides of rusty refrigerators. It an be anything somebody wants to claim it to be, like most cave art.

Try proving some Jews found it in 0 A.D. or so and then just stole it and threw it into the New Testament or something ridiculous like that. We can all use a few laughs.

 

[Votto]

3,000 years before the christian man god story

wooooopsie !!

Italian researchers may have discovered the oldest nativity scene ever found, predating Christian nativity art by about three millennia, according to the travel and exploration website Seeker.

The rock painting depicts a newborn between parents, a star in the east, and two animals. It was discovered on the ceiling of a small cavity in the Egyptian Sahara desert, Seeker reported. Researchers believe it dates to the Neolithic or Stone Age.

“It’s a very evocative scene which indeed resembles the Christmas nativity. But it predates it by some 3,000 years,” geologist Marco Morelli, director of the Museum of Planetary Sciences in Prato, Italy, told Seeker. The site reports that Morelli and his team discovered the rock art in 2005, but only now are revealing their findings under the title “Cave of the Parents.”

5,000-year-old "nativity scene," predating Christ, reportedly found in Egypt - CBS News

Jesus was not the first to be born by two parents and stars existed back then?

Interesting.

Did you also mention the ancient protest signs outside the cave that insisted that the nativity scene be removed?

 

[Political Junky]

lol Guno probably believes everything he ever heard on Coast To Coast AM, so naturally he would have trouble parsing this fake news story.

Is this the first you've heard about this. You need to read more.

I've heard it, seen the pics; I don't need to read more, it's a fanciful theory, about the level of Mexicans seeing Jesus in tortillas and on the sides of rusty refrigerators. It an be anything somebody wants to claim it to be, like most cave art.

Try proving some Jews found it in 0 A.D. or so and then just stole it and threw it into the New Testament or something ridiculous like that. We can all use a few laughs.

Osiris, the father of Horus, was another virgin-born godof ancient Egypt. ... Mithra, a Persian sun-god, wasvirgin-born, in a cave, on December 25. His earliest worshippers were shepherds, and he was accompanied in his travels by twelve companions.Dec 21, 2010

Not Just Jesus: Other Virgin Births | Law of Attraction GPS
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Dec 21, 2010 - Osiris, the father of Horus, was another virgin-born god of ancient Egypt. ... Mithra, a Persian sun-god, was virgin-born, in a cave, on December 25. His earliest worshippers were shepherds, and he was accompanied in his travels by twelve companions.

There Are Many Other Virgin Births Besides Jesus. - Religion - Nigeria
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The Virgin birth of Christ, along with the Resurrection form the bedrock, ... Horus was known to all ofancient Egypt as having been born of the ...

 

[frigidweirdo]

3,000 years before the christian man god story

wooooopsie !!

Italian researchers may have discovered the oldest nativity scene ever found, predating Christian nativity art by about three millennia, according to the travel and exploration website Seeker.

The rock painting depicts a newborn between parents, a star in the east, and two animals. It was discovered on the ceiling of a small cavity in the Egyptian Sahara desert, Seeker reported. Researchers believe it dates to the Neolithic or Stone Age.

“It’s a very evocative scene which indeed resembles the Christmas nativity. But it predates it by some 3,000 years,” geologist Marco Morelli, director of the Museum of Planetary Sciences in Prato, Italy, told Seeker. The site reports that Morelli and his team discovered the rock art in 2005, but only now are revealing their findings under the title “Cave of the Parents.”

5,000-year-old "nativity scene," predating Christ, reportedly found in Egypt - CBS News

Well, we all know that Christianity just took over things. Shepherds were in their fields with sheep when Jesus was born, yet shepherds aren't in their fields in December in that part of the world.

 

[Picaro]

3,000 years before the christian man god story

wooooopsie !!

Italian researchers may have discovered the oldest nativity scene ever found, predating Christian nativity art by about three millennia, according to the travel and exploration website Seeker.

The rock painting depicts a newborn between parents, a star in the east, and two animals. It was discovered on the ceiling of a small cavity in the Egyptian Sahara desert, Seeker reported. Researchers believe it dates to the Neolithic or Stone Age.

“It’s a very evocative scene which indeed resembles the Christmas nativity. But it predates it by some 3,000 years,” geologist Marco Morelli, director of the Museum of Planetary Sciences in Prato, Italy, told Seeker. The site reports that Morelli and his team discovered the rock art in 2005, but only now are revealing their findings under the title “Cave of the Parents.”

5,000-year-old "nativity scene," predating Christ, reportedly found in Egypt - CBS News

Well, we all know that Christianity just took over things. Shepherds were in their fields with sheep when Jesus was born, yet shepherds aren't in their fields in December in that part of the world.

Yeah!!! They used those helicopters and spaceships some claim to see in Egyptian hieroglyphs, flew around collecting all this stuff, and then waited a few thousand years to throw it into a New Testament cannon, and out of thousands of cave paintings to pick from, they stole the scene from this one! Those Jewish carpenters, fish merchants, and shepherds had a massive collection of drawings and writings by 0 A.D. to steal from, and then they made up a story using all of it, cuz like, they were evil n stuff!!!

Yur Jeenyuses!

 

[Picaro]

3,000 years before the christian man god story

wooooopsie !!

Italian researchers may have discovered the oldest nativity scene ever found, predating Christian nativity art by about three millennia, according to the travel and exploration website Seeker.

The rock painting depicts a newborn between parents, a star in the east, and two animals. It was discovered on the ceiling of a small cavity in the Egyptian Sahara desert, Seeker reported. Researchers believe it dates to the Neolithic or Stone Age.

“It’s a very evocative scene which indeed resembles the Christmas nativity. But it predates it by some 3,000 years,” geologist Marco Morelli, director of the Museum of Planetary Sciences in Prato, Italy, told Seeker. The site reports that Morelli and his team discovered the rock art in 2005, but only now are revealing their findings under the title “Cave of the Parents.”

5,000-year-old "nativity scene," predating Christ, reportedly found in Egypt - CBS News

Jesus was not the first to be born by two parents and stars existed back then?

Interesting.

Did you also mention the ancient protest signs outside the cave that insisted that the nativity scene be removed?

They had Egyptian helicopters! It all makes perfect sense! You just don't listen to enough Art Bell and Chuck Noori, so you're blind to the truth! ...

 

[Political Junky]

3,000 years before the christian man god story

wooooopsie !!

Italian researchers may have discovered the oldest nativity scene ever found, predating Christian nativity art by about three millennia, according to the travel and exploration website Seeker.

The rock painting depicts a newborn between parents, a star in the east, and two animals. It was discovered on the ceiling of a small cavity in the Egyptian Sahara desert, Seeker reported. Researchers believe it dates to the Neolithic or Stone Age.

“It’s a very evocative scene which indeed resembles the Christmas nativity. But it predates it by some 3,000 years,” geologist Marco Morelli, director of the Museum of Planetary Sciences in Prato, Italy, told Seeker. The site reports that Morelli and his team discovered the rock art in 2005, but only now are revealing their findings under the title “Cave of the Parents.”

5,000-year-old "nativity scene," predating Christ, reportedly found in Egypt - CBS News

Jesus was not the first to be born by two parents and stars existed back then?

Interesting.

Did you also mention the ancient protest signs outside the cave that insisted that the nativity scene be removed?

They had Egyptian helicopters! It all makes perfect sense! You just don't listen to enough Art Bell and Chuck Noori, so you're blind to the truth! ...

Apparently you're very familiar with Art Bell & Chuck Noori.

 

[guno]

Throughout all of Christendom the New Testament is considered to be the divinely inspired word of God. Therefore, its message is accepted without question. Messianic Jews have been taught by Christian missionaries that it is the fulfillment of the Tanach (Hebrew Bible). In short, the Old Testament prophets are supposed to have spoken about Jesus thus confirming his claim to be the long awaited Jewish messiah. One of the many "proofs" of this astounding claim comes from a misinterpretation of Isaiah 7.14 (KJV) which reads, Behold a virgin shall conceive and bear a son and shall call his name Emmanuel.

The verse which mentions a virgin can only be found in the KJV which is incorrectly translated. Other Bibles such as the NEB, RSV and the Jerusalem Bible (Catholic Version) do not give credence to the belief in a virgin birth. There are a few points worth noting as we compare the original Hebrew with the English translation of the KJV.

a] In Hebrew the verse reads in the present tense, "is with child" and not the future tense as recorded in Christian Bibles (KJV.) In Hebrew it states she is pregnant, not will become pregnant. In fact, the Catholic Bible, Isaiah 7.14 reads as follows: "The maiden is with child and will soon give birth to a son." Jesus was not born until seven hundred years after this sign was given, which certainly could not be described as "soon." The text reads 'is with child', therefore how could this woman be kept pregnant for seven hundred years until Jesus arrived?

b] This is not a prophecy for some future date, it is a 'ot' (sign ). Whenever 'ot' is used in Hebrew it means something which will come to pass immediately. 'Ot' is used elsewhere in the Bible: This shall be a sign unto thee from the Lord (Isaiah 38.7-8), and "If they will not believe thee, neither hearken to the voice of the first sign" (Ex 4.8-9). In each case the sign comes to pass immediately, not seven hundred years later.

c] The name of the child was Emmanuel. Nowhere in the New Testament do we find that Jesus is called Emmanuel. The angel informs Joseph in a dream that Mary will give birth to a son and that he should be called Jesus (Matt. 1:20-21, Luke 2;21.) All the evidence indicates that we are dealing with two different individuals here, Emmanuel and Jesus.

d] The text specifically says, 'the young woman' -'alma' whereas KJV changes the translation to 'a virgin '. The definite article is changed to the indefinite article, whereas the original text is evidently referring to the young woman known to both Isaiah and Ahaz, and not to some unknown person living far in the future. Here the prophet Isaiah is simply relating to the fact that the young woman is having a baby and that will be a sign to king Ahaz.

e] The "sign" was given to King Ahaz and not to the people of Jesus’ day. It concerned the military situation of the time. The meaning is clear if the message is read in context and in its own historical setting (See 2 Kings 16.1-10).

f] If Christian interpretation of Old Testament prophecy is difficult to swallow, it's nothing compared to what we are expected to take seriously in the New Testament. For example, in Matthew 1:20 we are told that Joseph, who was betrothed to Mary, was "told in a dream" all about the situation. In Luke 1 we are told that Mary was informed of the coming virgin birth in a private conversation with an angel. How can such ludicrous claims be historically verified?

g] Skepticism of the virgin birth claim is further confirmed by the fact that extant early Christian writings neither mention it nor shows any awareness of it prior to the writing of the Gospel of Matthew sometime after 80 C. E. It appears nowhere in the authentic epistles of Paul nor in Q.

h] The writer of Mark, the earliest of the canonical gospels, apparently had no knowledge of a virgin birth for the following reasons: 1) no birth narrative, 2) Mark's Jesus only became aware of his divine status when he was baptism, 3) when in Mark 10:17-18 a follower addressed him as "Good Teacher" Jesus replied, "Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is God." thereby not only denying the virgin birth and the incarnation, but also the doctrine of the holy trinity, 4) in Mark 3:19-21 (NRSV) when Jesus arrived back in his home town people were saying that he had lost his mind - gone insane. Upon hearing this, his family became concerned and came to restrain him. So, here again is undeniable proof that the writer of Mark was unaware of a virgin birth because if such a thing had actually happened the last thing anyone, especially his mother, would have suspected was that her divine, virgin-born son was insane. The writers of Matthew and Luke, although they drew heavily from Mark, wisely omitted this revealing little detail. (See Matthew 12:46-50 and Luke 8:19-20.)

The truth of the matter is that Christians have been misled by the clergy to believe that the child of the young woman in Isaiah 7.14 was no ordinary child but was none other than God himself clothed in a body of flesh, and that it was referring to none other than Jesus of Nazareth who was allegedly born some 700 years later. It's nothing short of absurd.

CONTRADICTIONS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT