400 million guns

[Votto]

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Comparing car fatalities to gun deaths is like comparing apples to hand grenades – they're just not the same thing. Cars, you see, they're meant to get us from point A to point B. And yeah, sure, accidents happen, but we've got all sorts of rules and gadgets in place to make 'em safer, you know? Seatbelts, airbags, traffic laws – you name it.

But guns? Guns are a whole different ball game. These babies are designed to make holes in things – sometimes animals, sometimes people. And when it comes to kids, well, we've got a serious problem on our hands. So, comparing car deaths to gun deaths – it's just not a fair fight, my friend.

Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that Democrats, Republicans, or any other political animal out there don't care about car-related fatalities. We've all got our causes, and some of us even care about multiple things at once – imagine that!

But the thing is, with guns, there's a lot of room for improvement. We could have better background checks, waiting periods, maybe even mental health screenings – just a thought! So, let's not get all emotional here, and instead, focus on finding some real solutions.

What we're talkin' about isn't exploiting tragedies; it's acknowledging that there's a problem that needs fixin'. And hey, maybe it's time to give that 2nd Amendment a little makeover, huh? Let's work together, find some common ground, and save some lives. Because, let's face it, folks – we can do better.

Both are are predictable, thus both must be accepted or rejected. Even if accidental, it is a statistical certainty that a rate of death will happen in cars. you accept the deaths so you can enjoy a higher way of life. You monster.

 

[Couchpotato]

Sorry, but when you lie in your OP, your credibility suffers.

"

Cause of Death​	No. of Deaths​	Rate per 100,000 (95% CI)​	Percent of Deaths​

All injury-related causes​

12,336​

15.79 (15.51–16.07)​

60.6​

Motor vehicle crash​

4,074​

5.21 (5.06–5.38)​

20.0​

Firearm-related injury​

3,143​

4.02 (3.88–4.16)​

15.4​

Homicide​

1,865​

2.39 (2.28–2.50)​

Suicide​

1,102​

1.41 (1.33–1.50)​

Unintentional​

126​

0.16 (0.13–0.19)​

"

The Major Causes of Death in Children and Adolescents in the United States

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

So, do you want to ban motor vehicles?

62% of US gun deaths are suicides. So you can chop that number by more than half. Not having a gun isn't going to stop anyone from offing themself.

 

[fncceo]

and if you disagree with them, they’ll threaten to shoot you

I would never threaten to shoot anyone ...

 

[fncceo]

There are some 400 million guns in America

 

[ThisIsMe]

Who is asking you to surrender your guns? If you`re paranoid you really shouldn`t be around guns at all, ever. Paranoia is a symptom of mental disease.

Uh…the left is wanting to reduce guns, either through confiscation or buybacks. If they want to reduce the number of guns, they are free to turn them in to the government, or the local sheriffs office.

 

[Cellblock2429]

A friend of mine wanted to respond to your comment, so I let him:

Mr. Friscus, Comparing car fatalities to gun deaths is like comparing apples to hand grenades – they're just not the same thing. Cars, you see, they're meant to get us from point A to point B. And yeah, sure, accidents happen, but we've got all sorts of rules and gadgets in place to make 'em safer, you know? Seatbelts, airbags, traffic laws – you name it.

But guns? Guns are a whole different ball game. These babies are designed to make holes in things – sometimes animals, sometimes people. And when it comes to kids, well, we've got a serious problem on our hands. So, comparing car deaths to gun deaths – it's just not a fair fight, my friend.

Now, don't get me wrong. we're not saying that Democrats, Republicans, or any other political animal out there don't care about car-related fatalities. We've all got our causes, and some of us even care about multiple things at once – imagine that!

But the thing is, with guns, there's a lot of room for improvement. We could have better background checks, waiting periods, maybe even mental health screenings – just a thought! So, let's not get all emotional here, and instead, focus on finding some real solutions.

What we're talkin' about isn't exploiting tragedies; it's acknowledging that there's a problem that needs fixin'. And hey, maybe it's time to give that 2nd Amendment a little makeover, huh? Let's work together, find some common ground, and save some lives. Because, let's face it, folks – we can do better. ---Rumpole's friend.

/——/ And another gun grabber makes a pitch to stomp on our Constitutional right to bear arms. This time under the guise of “a little makeover.”

 

[marvin martian]

"...Gun control is like a donut: there is no middle. On the one side you have people who love guns, and if you disagree with them, they’ll threaten to shoot you. On the other side you have people who detest guns, mainly out of fear of getting shot. It is an ideological death-match in which the voices of reason and compromise don’t seem to exist. Or if they do, no one can hear them over the sounds of the shouting and posturing
and the bumper-sticker slogans about cold dead hands." --"Matt" (anonymous) from his review of Adam Winkler's 'Gunfight, the Battle Over the Second Amendment in America"

There are some 400 million guns in America, and if guns were making us safer, we'd be the safest place on earth, which America is not.

That is a fact Republicans cannot reconcile.

And to average republican, I guess that for them, they aren't enough.

Guns deaths have taken the lead in children, and this is a fairly recent development. And, please, no crap about 'well, half those deaths are suicide' because,
simply because that stat isn't caused by fewer guns, let's be clear.

So I hope those of you second amendment 'cold dead hands' types are happy.

It sure isn't for the parents of those dead children whose lives have been ruined by your cherished 'second amendment'.

Personally, though America's second amendment was a necessary component of life in the frontiers of the late 18th century when the nation was founded, they could not have foreseen 233 years into the future to know of a modern urban landscape where weapons could kill hundreds of people in a relatively short period of time, that had they known, it is doubtful they would have confined the second amendment's langage to one compound sentence, whose actual meaning continues to be debated to this day.

It's time for a 28th Amendment to update the 2nd, a vertible 2nd Amendment 2.0, as it were, and as to what the new language would be, I'll let you guys duke it out, but it needs to be updated,

It's time.

Cheers,
Rumpole

Virtually all crimes committed with guns occur in places run by people like you.

 

[Rumpole]

/——-/ “That is a fact Republicans cannot reconcile.”
I stopped reading at your first gun grabbing lie.

But it is true.

 

[Rumpole]

Virtually all crimes committed with guns occur in places run by people like you.

In states run by people like you.

 

[Flash]

It was the Militias that were necessary for the security of a free state. Co-opting the Colonial Militias of the day where every able bodied white male was required to join. The Militias have been written out of most of the recent SC court decisions in support the rights of the Weapons Industry to sell to the public. Though I suppose that a change in that precedent is just an new opinion away if the liberals ever get a majority on the court.

You are confused Moon Bat.

The Supremes have found in Heller and reaffirmed in McDonald and Bruen that the right to keep and bear arms as an individual right doesn't have jackshit to do with belonging to anything.

 

[marvin martian]

In states run by people like you.

In countries run by people like you.

 

[MagicMike]

America will always be a gun culture, but we can reduce the level of violence. The only way to do that, though, is to reduce the number of guns. In today's climate, and with Republican control of the courts and legislatures (through gerrymandering), I don't see any changes anytime soon. So I guess we'll just keep bleeding.

Restricting and heavily regulating the sale of ammo would help.

 

[marvin martian]

Restricting and heavily regulating the sale of ammo would help.

How do you want to restrict and regulate it?

 

[ActionJackson]

"...Gun control is like a donut: there is no middle. On the one side you have people who love guns, and if you disagree with them, they’ll threaten to shoot you. On the other side you have people who detest guns, mainly out of fear of getting shot. It is an ideological death-match in which the voices of reason and compromise don’t seem to exist. Or if they do, no one can hear them over the sounds of the shouting and posturing
and the bumper-sticker slogans about cold dead hands." --"Matt" (anonymous) from his review of Adam Winkler's 'Gunfight, the Battle Over the Second Amendment in America"

There are some 400 million guns in America, and if guns were making us safer, we'd be the safest place on earth, which America is not.

That is a fact Republicans cannot reconcile.

And to average republican, I guess that for them, they aren't enough.

Guns deaths have taken the lead in children, and this is a fairly recent development. And, please, no crap about 'well, half those deaths are suicide' because,
simply because that stat isn't caused by fewer guns, let's be clear.

So I hope those of you second amendment 'cold dead hands' types are happy.

It sure isn't for the parents of those dead children whose lives have been ruined by your cherished 'second amendment'.

Personally, though America's second amendment was a necessary component of life in the frontiers of the late 18th century when the nation was founded, they could not have foreseen 233 years into the future to know of a modern urban landscape where weapons could kill hundreds of people in a relatively short period of time, that had they known, it is doubtful they would have confined the second amendment's langage to one compound sentence, whose actual meaning continues to be debated to this day.

It's time for a 28th Amendment to update the 2nd, a vertible 2nd Amendment 2.0, as it were, and as to what the new language would be, I'll let you guys duke it out, but it needs to be updated,

It's time.

Cheers,
Rumpole

Guns are like tools -- super useful when they're used for their intended purpose. I have various sizes and shapes of screwdrivers (Phillips, flathead, large, and small). I also have lots of guns of various shapes and sized intended for different purposes. As a full-grown man who understands that tools have specific purposes ... I really don't need other "adults" telling me what tools I should or should not own. I will make that determination for myself.

 

[multivita-man]

Restricting and heavily regulating the sale of ammo would help.

Or just tax the shit out of it.

 

[BlindBoo]

You are confused Moon Bat.

The Supremes have found in Heller and reaffirmed in McDonald and Bruen that the right to keep and bear arms as an individual right doesn't have jackshit to do with belonging to anything.

Not confuse at all dipshit. The Militia is now the US Armed forces. They protect the freedom of the state, not the people buying weapons protected by the 2nd, who use to have that obligation. SC decisions can be changed.

 

[ActionJackson]

Restricting and heavily regulating the sale of ammo would help.

Why do so many control freaks want to "regulate" every friggn' thing? Why don't you guys regulate your lives, and I'll regulate mine? Sound like a plan?

 

[MagicMike]

How do you want to restrict and regulate it?

Maybe have to register to buy it. Then limit the quantity allowed per person.
It would take a while but eventually law enforcement could have a pretty good database of every round purchased and out there on the streets.
And if you already have stockpile of your own then good on ya.
Keep it.
It's probably not the problem anyway.

 

[marvin martian]

Maybe have to register to buy it. Then limit the quantity allowed per person.
It would take a while but eventually law enforcement could have a pretty good database of every round purchased and out there on the streets.
And if you already have stockpile of your own then good on ya.
Keep it.
It's probably not the problem anyway.

So you believe people who commit crimes with guns are purchasing ammo in a retail establishment? You don't think there's a black market or any private sales going on?