4 Guns Bills Fail in Senate; Democrats Trying to Blame Republicans

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    Don't you understand how hard it is to fill mass graves if the victims have guns and are shooting back at you....what is it with you gun people who just will not understand that simple dynamic?
     
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    Upholding it in what way ?
     
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    Lol
    Fuck your firearm confiscation
     
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    Fuck face, universal background checks is dog whistle for firearm confiscation just as gun registrations are.
    And it’s called a magazine not a clip you fucking retard...
    Go go pound sand you cowardly motherfucker
     
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    We aren't trying to stop future shootings by outlawing 20 round clips. So why did you say such a dumb fucking thing? What is our goal for limiting rounds to 10? Don't come back with that bullshit that you can unload and load a clip just as fast. That's a lie and as a gun user I know it's a lie. So please, tell me why you don't want BETTER background checks?

    You are just a right wing tool bag obstructionist. And you are paranoid. Are you going to shoot when the cops come to the door? Are you going to be armed?

    Ok fine don't "register" your guns but each time you want to buy one they should run you through the system. You could have a recent protection order or something that tells the gun store not to sell you a gun.

    We could do better but not with lousy citizens like you around.
     
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    We've explained before but clearly it's going in one ear and out the other.

    If your gun can only hold 6 bullets instead of 10, we just saved 4 lives. My hunting rifle can hold 4 bullets at a time. I/you/We don't need WMD's.

    I asked this the other day. Would you be ok if I owned a concealed weapon that could take out 1/2 of a packed football stadium? You would be ok with the average citizen walking around with such a destructive weapon? If the answer is yes, then there is no talking to you. You're a gun nut.

    Our goal is to lower the number of murder victims. You keep worrying about the government and we will focus on the real current threat which is real and that's mass shooters. More mass shootings in American than days in the year. Something wrong here.
     
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    Nope.

    But funny you right wingers know what dog whistles are but when Trump says something subtly racist you act like fucking retards.

    You'll go through the background check and get your guns registered or we will come and get them and then kill your sorry ass. And be glad when you are gone.
     
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    Of course these bills fail. Neither side really wants any legislation to pass. It’s more effective to keep the 2nd amendment as a wedge issue...
     
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    Though more than 90% of the American public supports background checks for all gun sales, a dangerous and deadly loophole in federal gun laws still exempts unlicensed sellers from having to perform any background check whatsoever before selling a firearm. With this loophole, guns easily find their way into the hands of illegal buyers and gun traffickers, dramatically increasing the likelihood of gun homicides and suicides.

    Because of this loophole, domestic abusers, people with violent criminal records, and people prohibited for mental health reasons can easily buy guns from unlicensed sellers with no background check in most states. In fact, an estimated 22% of US gun owners acquired their most recent firearm without a background check1—which translates to millions of Americans acquiring millions of guns, no questions asked, each year.

    When background checks are required and properly enforced, they can help keep guns out of dangerous hands.

    • Since the federal background check requirement was adopted in 1994, over 3 million people legally prohibited from possessing a gun have been stopped from purchasing a gun or denied a permit to purchase.2 More than 35% of these denials involved people convicted of felony offenses.3
    • Background check laws also help prevent guns from being diverted to the illegal gun market. States without universal background check laws export crime guns across state lines at a 30% higher rate than states that require background checks on all gun sales.4
    owever, in the absence of a comprehensive background check system, criminals and other prohibited persons routinely exploit the massive loopholes in our laws.

    • Around 80% of all firearms acquired for criminal purposes are obtained through transfers from unlicensed sellers,5 and 96% of inmates convicted of gun offenses who were already prohibited from possessing a firearm at the time of the offense obtained their firearm from an unlicensed seller.6
    • Individuals who commit crimes with firearms may intentionally seek to purchase guns from sellers who aren’t required to run background checks. Purchasers from Armslist.com, a major online firearms marketplace, were nearly seven times as likely to have a firearm-prohibiting criminal record than people attempting to buy guns from licensed dealers.7 (This is discussed more fully on our page on online gun sales.)
    Recent examples show that loopholes in our background check system can have dangerous and deadly consequences.

    • In 2018, in Appleton, WI, a man who was prohibited from purchasing a gun because he was out on bond for a firearm-related felony domestic violence case purchased a firearm from an unlicensed seller on Armslist.com without a background check. The next day he used the gun to kill his wife.8
    • In 2016, a woman was killed, and their two children shot by an ex-boyfriend, who purchased the gun from an unlicensed seller without a background check. He was prohibited from purchasing a firearm due to a domestic violence restraining order and a pending domestic battery case.9
    • In 2014, a gunman in West Virginia killed four people, including his ex-girlfriend, with a gun he purchased from an online seller without a background check. He was prohibited from purchasing firearms due to multiple felony convictions.10
    Background checks are easy, convenient, and impose almost no burden on law-abiding gun purchasers.

    • In at least 90% of cases, firearm background checks processed through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) are resolved immediately. The average processing time for an electronic NICS-check is less than two minutes—107 seconds, to be precise.11
    • Contrary to gun-lobby claims, background checks rarely provide false-positive results. The FBI’s quality control evaluations suggest that background checks are accurate approximately 99.3 to 99.8% of the time.12
    For more than a decade, the vast majority of the American public has supported laws requiring background checks on all firearm purchases,13 with polling data consistently showing that more than 90% of both gun owners and non-gun owners support this policy.14 Strong support for background check laws has also been measured among NRA members, with at least 69% supporting comprehensive background checks.15

    Universal background checks are a necessary foundation for any policy that aims to keep firearms out of the hands of abusers and other prohibited people. However, other improvements should also be made in the existing background check system. For further information on how federal and state background checks work, see our pages on Background Check Procedures and Reporting Procedures.
     
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    Only thing you're killing is your credibility.
     

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