3 mass shooting, three semi automtic rifles

[miketx]

I've taken all my kids out into the woods and taught them how to fire an AR-15. They've been taking firearms training from me since my youngest was six years old.

As a result, they are far more responsible than their untrained peers. One of my son's friends showed my son where his dad (who is a cop) hides his shotgun.

My son did exactly the right thing. He did not touch the shotgun. Instead, he came home and told me about it.

Then I told the cop about it, and that he needed to have a word with his son.

Just because I enjoy the shit out of firing an AR-15 does not mean I am mentally ill. The fucking OP writer is an asshole.

Of course not. Of the people I know, more own guns than don't and I don't lose any sleep over it. But AR's get in the hands of people who just want to randomly shoot up people rather than targets or trees or chipmunks, or whatever you shoot at in the woods. Some are criminals, some are nuts. Is your right to "have fun" more important than getting those guns out of circulation and unavailable to people who are mentally ill or homicidal?

What kind of an idiot wants to shoot a tree?

 

[OldLady]

You are sure? Provide a link saying semi-automatic rifles are illegal to hunt with.

One of my students said he borrowed a friend's semiautomatic rifle to hunt deer last year, but you only pull the trigger once, not a bunch of times. You don't want to tear up the meat.

 

[eddiew37]

We sure have weak gun control.

No we have weak enforcement of the gun laws that are on the books

Not doing anything about gun violence because it can't be stopped is like not trying to do something about diabetes because it can't be stopped

We have thousands of gun laws on the books that we choose not to enforce.

So tell me what new law would be the magic pill you are looking for?

how about penalties for not enforcing those 1000's you talk about and stop allowing mentally deranged from buying weapons??

Yes, how about we enforce existing laws?
That has been an argument for 10 years but it never works.
Sounds like you just joined my gun advocate camp

But what's stopping them? The NRA?

 

[OldLady]

I've taken all my kids out into the woods and taught them how to fire an AR-15. They've been taking firearms training from me since my youngest was six years old.

As a result, they are far more responsible than their untrained peers. One of my son's friends showed my son where his dad (who is a cop) hides his shotgun.

My son did exactly the right thing. He did not touch the shotgun. Instead, he came home and told me about it.

Then I told the cop about it, and that he needed to have a word with his son.

Just because I enjoy the shit out of firing an AR-15 does not mean I am mentally ill. The fucking OP writer is an asshole.

Of course not. Of the people I know, more own guns than don't and I don't lose any sleep over it. But AR's get in the hands of people who just want to randomly shoot up people rather than targets or trees or chipmunks, or whatever you shoot at in the woods. Some are criminals, some are nuts. Is your right to "have fun" more important than getting those guns out of circulation and unavailable to people who are mentally ill or homicidal?

What kind of an idiot wants to shoot a tree?

Ask G.

 

[miketx]

The last three whack jobs that went on a shooting spree used semi automatic rifles. The last two wore tactical gear.

Background checks?

If all these nutsos want them then I suggest that the idea some one wants them is a sign they are mentally off.

The more they assault type rifles want, the more whacked they are. Probably at least at by the square of that number.

Have two, 4 times as as crazy. Have 4, 16 times as crazy.

Next, add another factor of ten for every piece of "tactical gear" they own.

Really, you are way off the deep end if you have to dress up in this tactical gear.

Real sane gun owners wouldn't own an assault type rifle. Not good for hunting, not good for self defense. They would be safe.

Just those crazy fucks running around in tactical gear toting their AR-15, round them up & send them to the psycho ward.

This last asshole was on bail for assault with a deadly weapon and the weapon itself and the magazines were ALREADY illegal. How'd that gun ban work out?

We sure have weak gun control.

No we have weak enforcement of the gun laws that are on the books

Not doing anything about gun violence because it can't be stopped is like not trying to do something about diabetes because it can't be stopped

Diabetes isn't a right, yet.

 

[g5000]

How are semi-automatic rifles "not good" for hunting or self defense? The typical anti gun screed is careful to omit the fact that the last three mass murders were committed by registered democrats and left wing hate mongers. How many people recognize the name " James Hodgkinson"? They should except the MSM was careful to bury the story of a crazy Sanders democrat opening fire on a baseball team full of republicans. How many people know that Hodgkinson had a list of republican targets in his pocket and that he might have been in communication with democrat politicians before he opened fire on republicans? Vegas mass murderer Stephen Paddock was probably influenced by the same left wing crazy hatred as Hodgkinson but the story has strangely gone dark. A CBS executive said that she had no sympathy for the Vegas victims because they were all "right wing gun nuts themselves". It gives you an insight into the mainstream liberal mind these days. The Baptist Church killer hated Christians and Christians are often republicans. Every one of the mass murderers violated at least half a dozen laws and it took an NRA member to bring down Kelley.

Semi automatic rifles are not legal to hunt in most states.

Wrong. Hunting with semi-autos is legal in every state except Pennsylvania and Delaware.

 

[OldLady]

Who tf said that?

You just did lol
You want to ban shit you dont even understand. Just stop. Good gawd OL

Harley, rather than dismiss me, explain what I said that leads you to believe I want your handgun. Maybe what I want is the high capacity magazines? I know what one of those is.
I said rifles. I meant rifles.

If a guy is going to be nuts and shoot up all and sundry, he can do it one slow bullet at a time and reload after he's shot five.
No one needs to be able to shoot faster or more than that for anything legal or even for self protection.
You basically just dismissed 95% of handguns.

They don't shoot as far as a rifle, do they? They can't be turned back into a sane weapon instead of a weapon of mass destruction?
I know they are preferred because a bullet automatically moves in to the chamber as soon as one is fired. The larger magazines mean you don't have to reload as much. So if it is a semi handgun, couldn't magazines be limited to five?
Large quantities of ammunition are nuts, too. What the hell?

It takes 3 seconds to change magazines.

Took longer than that for the Vegas shooter, the Sutherland shooter--people heard the long pauses while they reloaded. What are you, the Rifleman?
Never mind, you're probably too young to know who I mean.

 

[g5000]

I've taken all my kids out into the woods and taught them how to fire an AR-15. They've been taking firearms training from me since my youngest was six years old.

As a result, they are far more responsible than their untrained peers. One of my son's friends showed my son where his dad (who is a cop) hides his shotgun.

My son did exactly the right thing. He did not touch the shotgun. Instead, he came home and told me about it.

Then I told the cop about it, and that he needed to have a word with his son.

Just because I enjoy the shit out of firing an AR-15 does not mean I am mentally ill. The fucking OP writer is an asshole.

Of course not. Of the people I know, more own guns than don't and I don't lose any sleep over it. But AR's get in the hands of people who just want to randomly shoot up people rather than targets or trees or chipmunks, or whatever you shoot at in the woods. Some are criminals, some are nuts. Is your right to "have fun" more important than getting those guns out of circulation and unavailable to people who are mentally ill or homicidal?

What kind of an idiot wants to shoot a tree?

Ask G.

I've shot some fallen trees. The twigs on the branches make good targets for accuracy.

But I mostly shoot cans, bottles, old books, the occasional obsolete mp3 player or cell phone, whatever's laying around the house.

 

[miketx]

You are sure? Provide a link saying semi-automatic rifles are illegal to hunt with.

One of my students said he borrowed a friend's semiautomatic rifle to hunt deer last year, but you only pull the trigger once, not a bunch of times. You don't want to tear up the meat.

You have very little understanding of guns and hunting don't you? Why would anyone unload a magazine on a deer? lol! BTW, this is a typical semi automatic hunting rifle.

If you miss with the first shot the deer is usually long gone before you can aim again. If you aren't sure what aiming is, I'm sure we can help you there.

 

[eddiew37]

The last three whack jobs that went on a shooting spree used semi automatic rifles. The last two wore tactical gear.

Background checks?

If all these nutsos want them then I suggest that the idea some one wants them is a sign they are mentally off.

The more they assault type rifles want, the more whacked they are. Probably at least at by the square of that number.

Have two, 4 times as as crazy. Have 4, 16 times as crazy.

Next, add another factor of ten for every piece of "tactical gear" they own.

Really, you are way off the deep end if you have to dress up in this tactical gear.

Real sane gun owners wouldn't own an assault type rifle. Not good for hunting, not good for self defense. They would be safe.

Just those crazy fucks running around in tactical gear toting their AR-15, round them up & send them to the psycho ward.

This last asshole was on bail for assault with a deadly weapon and the weapon itself and the magazines were ALREADY illegal. How'd that gun ban work out?

We sure have weak gun control.

No we have weak enforcement of the gun laws that are on the books

Not doing anything about gun violence because it can't be stopped is like not trying to do something about diabetes because it can't be stopped

Diabetes isn't a right, yet.

Cancer isn't either but why try for cures? You can't see your way to want stricter gun laws? That CAN be implemented?

 

[hunarcy]

You are sure? Provide a link saying semi-automatic rifles are illegal to hunt with.

One of my students said he borrowed a friend's semiautomatic rifle to hunt deer last year, but you only pull the trigger once, not a bunch of times. You don't want to tear up the meat.

The poster said semi-automatic rifles are ILLEGAL to hunt with, which is not correct except in 4 or 5 states.

 

[Skull Pilot]

This last asshole was on bail for assault with a deadly weapon and the weapon itself and the magazines were ALREADY illegal. How'd that gun ban work out?

We sure have weak gun control.

No we have weak enforcement of the gun laws that are on the books

Not doing anything about gun violence because it can't be stopped is like not trying to do something about diabetes because it can't be stopped

Diabetes isn't a right, yet.

Cancer isn't either but why try for cures? You can't see your way to want stricter gun laws? That CAN be implemented?

Tell me what new gun laws will do what the ones we already have but do not enforce don't do

 

[eddiew37]

You just did lol
You want to ban shit you dont even understand. Just stop. Good gawd OL

Harley, rather than dismiss me, explain what I said that leads you to believe I want your handgun. Maybe what I want is the high capacity magazines? I know what one of those is.
I said rifles. I meant rifles.

If a guy is going to be nuts and shoot up all and sundry, he can do it one slow bullet at a time and reload after he's shot five.
No one needs to be able to shoot faster or more than that for anything legal or even for self protection.
You basically just dismissed 95% of handguns.

They don't shoot as far as a rifle, do they? They can't be turned back into a sane weapon instead of a weapon of mass destruction?
I know they are preferred because a bullet automatically moves in to the chamber as soon as one is fired. The larger magazines mean you don't have to reload as much. So if it is a semi handgun, couldn't magazines be limited to five?
Large quantities of ammunition are nuts, too. What the hell?

It takes 3 seconds to change magazines.

Took longer than that for the Vegas shooter, the Sutherland shooter--people heard the long pauses while they reloaded. What are you, the Rifleman?
Never mind, you're probably too young to know who I mean.

Good old Chuck

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So do rental trucks

How many mass murders have we had in the country with rental trucks, TN?
How many mass murders have we had in the country with semiautomatic rifles?
Please stop with the nonsense comparisons.

Rental trucks cant cause a lot of deaths, fast? Link?
Doesnt surprise me you missed the point. Guns make you skeered. Cant think..

Apparently no more skeered than vans make you. I didn't miss your point; you haven't got one.

My point was, people will kill however they can. I do, indeed, have a point.
But you are a reactionary so...

You're right I am reacting to three mindless mass murders in two months. If that's wrong, I'm in the wrong universe.

So why aren't you working as a community organizer in Chicago to stop the gun violence there?

 

[eddiew37]

We sure have weak gun control.

No we have weak enforcement of the gun laws that are on the books

Not doing anything about gun violence because it can't be stopped is like not trying to do something about diabetes because it can't be stopped

Diabetes isn't a right, yet.

Cancer isn't either but why try for cures? You can't see your way to want stricter gun laws? That CAN be implemented?

Tell me what new gun laws will do what the ones we already have but do not enforce don't do

Well start by punishing those preventing those laws from being implemented even if it means putting the NRA in jails.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So do rental trucks

How many mass murders have we had in the country with rental trucks, TN?
How many mass murders have we had in the country with semiautomatic rifles?
Please stop with the nonsense comparisons.

How many mass murders have we had with pistols? I bet a hell of a lot more than semi auto rifles!
Why dont you go after them?
REACTIONARY

BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT ME TO TAKE YOUR SIDEARM! I try being reasonable about this for once in my life and you're still reacting as if I wanted to go Australia on your ass.

I dont want you to take my semi auto rifle, either. Is that going to stop you from taking that?
Of course it isnt. Try another bullshit justification for your gun fallacies.

If a guy is going to be nuts and shoot up all and sundry, he can do it one slow bullet at a time and reload after he's shot five.
No one needs to be able to shoot faster or more than that for anything legal or even for self protection.

So cops guns will be illegal too? Do you know what they call police officers who prefer revolvers to semi-automatics?

The deceased.

I have an AR-15 that my daughter learned to shoot with. Now, as an officer in the Army, she is the best female shooter in her unit and better than a good number of the male soldiers under her command.

 

[westwall]

No we have weak enforcement of the gun laws that are on the books

Not doing anything about gun violence because it can't be stopped is like not trying to do something about diabetes because it can't be stopped

Diabetes isn't a right, yet.

Cancer isn't either but why try for cures? You can't see your way to want stricter gun laws? That CAN be implemented?

Tell me what new gun laws will do what the ones we already have but do not enforce don't do

Well start by punishing those preventing those laws from being implemented even if it means putting the NRA in jails.

The ones preventing the laws from being implemented are progressive groups like the ACLU.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Rental trucks cant cause a lot of deaths, fast? Link?
Doesnt surprise me you missed the point. Guns make you skeered. Cant think..

Apparently no more skeered than vans make you. I didn't miss your point; you haven't got one.

My point was, people will kill however they can. I do, indeed, have a point.
But you are a reactionary so...

You're right I am reacting to three mindless mass murders in two months. If that's wrong, I'm in the wrong universe.

Exactly MINDLESS. Thanks!

Outlawing semiautomatic weapons isn't the only answer, you're right. Absolutely. But getting those goddamned things out of every American closet would really help. This latest nutcase also bought his guns legally, and owned them even though he was arrested earlier this year for assault with a deadly weapon, and it was against his wife. A neighbor called and told the cops the shooter was acting pretty nutty prior to the shooting and firing hundreds of rounds in his backyard. Ignore, ignore, ignore. Then BANG. So you're right. There's more to it than just doing a buy back of semi's.

Why do you want to take my weapons? I did nothing wrong.

I shoot hundreds of rounds when I go shooting with my wife and daughters .

 

[miketx]

No we have weak enforcement of the gun laws that are on the books

Not doing anything about gun violence because it can't be stopped is like not trying to do something about diabetes because it can't be stopped

Diabetes isn't a right, yet.

Cancer isn't either but why try for cures? You can't see your way to want stricter gun laws? That CAN be implemented?

Tell me what new gun laws will do what the ones we already have but do not enforce don't do

Well start by punishing those preventing those laws from being implemented even if it means putting the NRA in jails.

You are sick! For years the NRA has tried to get laws pass that send people to prison for at least 5 years if they use a gun in crime. Liberal assholes block it.

 

[miketx]

Apparently no more skeered than vans make you. I didn't miss your point; you haven't got one.

My point was, people will kill however they can. I do, indeed, have a point.
But you are a reactionary so...

You're right I am reacting to three mindless mass murders in two months. If that's wrong, I'm in the wrong universe.

Exactly MINDLESS. Thanks!

Outlawing semiautomatic weapons isn't the only answer, you're right. Absolutely. But getting those goddamned things out of every American closet would really help. This latest nutcase also bought his guns legally, and owned them even though he was arrested earlier this year for assault with a deadly weapon, and it was against his wife. A neighbor called and told the cops the shooter was acting pretty nutty prior to the shooting and firing hundreds of rounds in his backyard. Ignore, ignore, ignore. Then BANG. So you're right. There's more to it than just doing a buy back of semi's.

Why do you want to take my weapons? I did nothing wrong.

I shoot hundreds of rounds when I go shooting with my wife and daughters .

Whenever there's a shooting the gun banners always want to to disarm the people that had nothing to do with it.