20 Million ASIANS

[Patrick2]

We probably agree on many subjects.

This should give you considerable pause.

Yo, Mr. AA - have you figured out how to conjugate the "to be" verb yet?

 

[CryingKoala]

The claim they don't take american jobs is in fact a standard leftwing myth. Americans wouldn't take the jos AT THE BLACK MARKET WAGES scofflaw employers know they can get away with in exploiting illegal aliens. If the illegal aliens were gone, wages would rise until americans would take the jobs, or automated equipment would be invented to replace them.

Bullshit, Nobody has ever been paying living wages for most of the kind of agricultural or service related work we have illegals doing. The jobs which could be outsourced, would be outsourced.

Baloney - most illegal aliens are paid "under the table" in cash, with no paperwork, no deductions, no nothing. Come out here and I'll SHOW YOU. The children of illegal aliens are the vast majority of the students in places like Los Angeles county, yet few pay property taxes which support the schools and other municipal services. And the claim that employers don't know is a laugh - they hire people who can speak about three words of english, and have not the slightest indication that they are US citizens.

Few LA residents are paying property taxes to support urban schools. The poor and working class citizens don't own their homes for the most part. They do pay sales taxes


More nonsense from you. In the southwest, the presence of illegals is so overwhelming, and catered to by so many institutions that there is no need for them to assimilate - there are spanish speaking TV channels, dozens of spanish speaking radio stations, spanish speaking persons at commercial institutions who want to profit fom the invasion like banks, almost all phone trees have a spanish option, there are branches of mexican grocery chains here with mexican products just as if it were mexico, the language at church services in catholic churches in LA is in spanish, the mayor gives speeches in spanish - on and on and on. The issue here is whether "anglos" will be able to assimilate to their environment when the "reconquista" is completed.

Now your bigoted side is showing. When in doubt appeal to irrational fears of being overwhelmed by the immigrant horde. The same arguments they were making when people were coming off the boats at Ellis Island. Any immigrant community has this. I can get the same impression with Russian speakers in Brighton Beach. The difference is the overwhelming majority of them are here legally.

Besides mexicans near zero rate of assimilation, the difference is the Irish, Italians, Japanese came here LEGALLY.

Bigoted bullshit again. 2nd Generation immigrants of all types tend to be fluent English speakers.

Once again, COME HERE, and for just one example, I'll walk you around to the ERs, and you'll see them loaded up with illegal aliens.

And you can tell between a legal alien and illegal on sight or do you just assume that they are illegal because they are poor and hispanic?

Simply false - illegal aliens make up 25% of California's gigantic prison population. Illegals commit murders here, and if they can get away across the mexican border, they're home free because mexico won't extradite them. Same thing if they cause auto accidents (they rarely have auto insurance).


False, Hispanics make up the gigantic prison population. You just assume they are all illegal. Of course the flipside is they aren't even the majority of those incarcerated despite being a sizable chunk of the population.

No, the solution is to send people back where they belong.

40 years of trying to do that has produced zero results. I guess you like how things already are.

Talk about the race card all you want. But its a stupid argument. Complaining about complaints of bigotry doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just you don't want to hear them. Maybe its just a little too uncomfortable for some to recognize such things in public.

 

[Patrick2]

The claim they don't take american jobs is in fact a standard leftwing myth. Americans wouldn't take the jos AT THE BLACK MARKET WAGES scofflaw employers know they can get away with in exploiting illegal aliens. If the illegal aliens were gone, wages would rise until americans would take the jobs, or automated equipment would be invented to replace them.

Bullshit, Nobody has ever been paying living wages for most of the kind of agricultural or service related work we have illegals doing. The jobs which could be outsourced, would be outsourced.

Assbackwards logic from you. Nobody has been paying "living wages" because they have illegal aliens to exploit. Leftwingers who support the invasion want you to believe that without the invaders, all food would just rot in the fields, and we'd all starve to death.

Baloney - most illegal aliens are paid "under the table" in cash, with no paperwork, no deductions, no nothing. Come out here and I'll SHOW YOU. The children of illegal aliens are the vast majority of the students in places like Los Angeles county, yet few pay property taxes which support the schools and other municipal services. And the claim that employers don't know is a laugh - they hire people who can speak about three words of english, and have not the slightest indication that they are US citizens. [/B]

Few LA residents are paying property taxes to support urban schools. The poor and working class citizens don't own their homes for the most part. They do pay sales taxes

Without even getting into the the correctness of your claim, the fact remains that education is one of the social services illegal aliens loot. People of this country want to pay for the education of the poor of >>US Citizens<<, but we're going bankrupt paying for the poor of other countries.

More nonsense from you. In the southwest, the presence of illegals is so overwhelming, and catered to by so many institutions that there is no need for them to assimilate - there are spanish speaking TV channels, dozens of spanish speaking radio stations, spanish speaking persons at commercial institutions who want to profit fom the invasion like banks, almost all phone trees have a spanish option, there are branches of mexican grocery chains here with mexican products just as if it were mexico, the language at church services in catholic churches in LA is in spanish, the mayor gives speeches in spanish - on and on and on. The issue here is whether "anglos" will be able to assimilate to their environment when the "reconquista" is completed.

Now your bigoted side is showing.

Race card bullshit.

When in doubt appeal to irrational fears of being overwhelmed by the immigrant horde.

Ooooooooo - here it comes - the assinine comparison with 19th century jews/italians/irish.

The same arguments they were making when people were coming off the boats at Ellis Island. Any immigrant community has this. I can get the same impression with Russian speakers in Brighton Beach. The difference is the overwhelming majority of them are here legally.

Only a historically ignorant MORON would serve up this old howler, especially after it's been crushed so many times. Those immigrants were LEGAL. They followed the rules. The vast majority of them wanted nothing more than to become genuine americans in the deepest sense of the word, instead of the extremely low assimilation rate of even LEGAL hispanics. They weren't trying to effect a reconquista for say, Germany. They learned the language as fast as possible, they didn't sit here for 30 years and not learn a word of english. They didn't have instant electronic communications back to the old country. They weren't an hour away from the old country by jet. The overwhelming majority didn't have dual citizenship with the old country. They didn't go to public schools full of bilingual teachers just to cater to them. they had to FULLY commit to assimilating with the country they adopted, as opposed to the southwest, where americans have to assimilate with the hispanics. The northeast of the US didn't end up a virtual province of germany. The comparison is fatuous at best.

vOnce again, COME HERE, and for just one example, I'll walk you around to the ERs, and you'll see them loaded up with illegal aliens. [/B]

And you can tell between a legal alien and illegal on sight or do you just assume that they are illegal because they are poor and hispanic?

Anyone >>HERE<< can tell, and we laugh at the idiots in places like wisconsin who are brainwashed into thinking we can't.

Simply false - illegal aliens make up 25% of California's gigantic prison population. Illegals commit murders here, and if they can get away across the mexican border, they're home free because mexico won't extradite them. Same thing if they cause auto accidents (they rarely have auto insurance).


False, Hispanics make up the gigantic prison population. You just assume they are all illegal. No, the solution is to send people back where they belong. [/B]

Bullshit - you don't know what you're talking about - read up. Those are the stats, "assumptions" are not involved. You have no fucking clue - you're just robotically repeating all the bullshit on this issue served up by the lib media for idiots who don't live in the southwest.