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Who sent those troops there?Then you agree obama get's the credit for these killings.
No, this was not a POLICY decision.
Who sent those troops there?No, this was not a POLICY decision.
It doesn't MATTER who sent the troops there. What were their orders? The invasion of Afghanistan, Iraq, Abu Ghraib, Gitmo and torture were POLICY decisions by the despot Bush. Bush started both wars.
Obama ended our combat in Iraq, and plans combat withdrawal in Afghanistan by the end of 2014.
You seem to have a problem understanding the difference between policy and happenstance.
Bush deserved criticism for Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, torture and starting a preemptive, preventative war of ideology.
Who sent those troops there?
It doesn't MATTER who sent the troops there. What were their orders? The invasion of Afghanistan, Iraq, Abu Ghraib, Gitmo and torture were POLICY decisions by the despot Bush. Bush started both wars.
Obama ended our combat in Iraq, and plans combat withdrawal in Afghanistan by the end of 2014.
You seem to have a problem understanding the difference between policy and happenstance.
First you said it wasn't a POLICY decision, but now it does not matter? Well sparky it was obama's policy to send those troops there. Going back to your comment
Bush deserved criticism for Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, torture and starting a preemptive, preventative war of ideology.
obama deserves criticism for what the troops do.
Invasion of Afghanistan - Bush policy decision
Invasion of Iraq - Bush policy decision
Abu Ghraib - Bush policy decision
Guantánamo - Bush policy decision
Torture - Bush policy decision
US soldier killing of 16 innocent civilians - NOT an Obama policy decision
Bingo.
Agreed. My point is that the hardcore right knows damn well that this and many other horrors would not have happened if we were not there in the first place. They recognize that, and immediately set out to do preemptive damage control and divert by pointing the finger at Obama.
I'm accustomed to the non-stop intellectual dishonesty that is contemporary political discourse -- not that I like it -- but when it comes to the lives, limbs and minds of thousands of American soldiers and the pain to their families, I'm not as forgiving. I'm sick of it.
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Excuse me, but I think you could use a little lesson in intellectual dishonesty as well. Obama has been in office for three years now, over three years. He could have pulled us out of there at any time he so desired, and he has not. Tell me, when does he own anything that's going on currently? Ever? Maybe after 8 years in office? Or will you people still be going back to Bush even then? Get a grasp on reality, Obama owns anything that happens on his watch, that's what grown adults do, they take responsibility.
None of this, none of it, would be happening if Bush had not put us there. I can only imagine how much effort it takes to avoid that, I realize it makes it tougher to play the standard political games, but it is a fact.
And, once again, since I'm not a partisan sheep I don't need to spin. Obama should have gotten us out of there by now, but he's dealing with a horrific situation, kind of like the economy. Yanking us out of there may have done more harm than good, AFTER Bush got us in there. The fact is, I don't know.
If Bush hadn't put us there, Obama would not have had anything to screw up, if that's indeed what he's doing. Kind of like the economy.
The only difference is, Bush's wars have destroyed thousands of American lives in a way a bad economy cannot.
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Ah, yes.....some o' that good ol' "conservative" mental-health care, for someone who was recycled (too-many-times) in full-blown combat-zones!!!
Use 'em UP, and throw 'em OUT.....so Mitt's boys aren't put-at-risk!!!!
Mitt Romney on 60 Minutes with Mike Wallace - Five Brothers - YouTube
When has obama ever taken a risk that would affect him?
If the mission to get Ossama had failed it would have had the same effect as the Carter botched rescue attempt of the hostages. He wouldn't stand a chance of re-election. It was a gutsy call.
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Hey, wait a minute. I thought the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were the "right thing to do". Why is it all of a sudden that the hardcore right is whining about what happens there? I thought the chance to blow the shit out of countries we don't like is a "good" thing. The more explosions, bullets and blood the better, even if the blood is ours.
Plus, there were more needless deaths here. I thought that was a righteous thing.
What's going on here, is the hardcore right suddenly wussing out?
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Hey, wait a minute. I thought the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were the "right thing to do". Why is it all of a sudden that the hardcore right is whining about what happens there? I thought the chance to blow the shit out of countries we don't like is a "good" thing. The more explosions, bullets and blood the better, even if the blood is ours.
Plus, there were more needless deaths here. I thought that was a righteous thing.
What's going on here, is the hardcore right suddenly wussing out?
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Who sent those troops there?
It doesn't MATTER who sent the troops there. What were their orders? The invasion of Afghanistan, Iraq, Abu Ghraib, Gitmo and torture were POLICY decisions by the despot Bush. Bush started both wars.
Obama ended our combat in Iraq, and plans combat withdrawal in Afghanistan by the end of 2014.
You seem to have a problem understanding the difference between policy and happenstance.
First you said it wasn't a POLICY decision, but now it does not matter? Well sparky it was obama's policy to send those troops there. Going back to your comment
Bush deserved criticism for Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, torture and starting a preemptive, preventative war of ideology.
obama deserves criticism for what the troops do.
It doesn't MATTER who sent the troops there. What were their orders? The invasion of Afghanistan, Iraq, Abu Ghraib, Gitmo and torture were POLICY decisions by the despot Bush. Bush started both wars.
Obama ended our combat in Iraq, and plans combat withdrawal in Afghanistan by the end of 2014.
You seem to have a problem understanding the difference between policy and happenstance.
First you said it wasn't a POLICY decision, but now it does not matter? Well sparky it was obama's policy to send those troops there. Going back to your comment
Bush deserved criticism for Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, torture and starting a preemptive, preventative war of ideology.
obama deserves criticism for what the troops do.
WOW, you really are fucking obtuse.
Invasion of Afghanistan - Bush policy decision
Invasion of Iraq - Bush policy decision
Abu Ghraib - Bush policy decision
Guantánamo - Bush policy decision
Torture - Bush policy decision
US soldier killing of 16 innocent civilians - NOT an Obama policy decision
Invasion of Afghanistan - Bush policy decision
Invasion of Iraq - Bush policy decision
Abu Ghraib - Bush policy decision
Guantánamo - Bush policy decision
Torture - Bush policy decision
US soldier killing of 16 innocent civilians - NOT an Obama policy decision
Being obtuse is all they have when they know they have to divert.
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Invasion of Afghanistan - Bush policy decision
Invasion of Iraq - Bush policy decision
Abu Ghraib - Bush policy decision
Guantánamo - Bush policy decision
Torture - Bush policy decision
US soldier killing of 16 innocent civilians - NOT an Obama policy decision
Being obtuse is all they have when they know they have to divert.
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Divert? You mean like you're doing with leaving Obama blameless for this mess after three years in office?? Classic.
Invasion of Afghanistan - Bush policy decision
Invasion of Iraq - Bush policy decision
Abu Ghraib - Bush policy decision
Guantánamo - Bush policy decision
Torture - Bush policy decision
US soldier killing of 16 innocent civilians - NOT an Obama policy decision
Being obtuse is all they have when they know they have to divert.
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Divert? You mean like you're doing with leaving Obama blameless for this mess after three years in office?? Classic.
When has obama ever taken a risk that would affect him?
If the mission to get Ossama had failed it would have had the same effect as the Carter botched rescue attempt of the hostages. He wouldn't stand a chance of re-election. It was a gutsy call.
The public would have never even known about it.
It doesn't MATTER who sent the troops there. What were their orders? The invasion of Afghanistan, Iraq, Abu Ghraib, Gitmo and torture were POLICY decisions by the despot Bush. Bush started both wars.
Obama ended our combat in Iraq, and plans combat withdrawal in Afghanistan by the end of 2014.
You seem to have a problem understanding the difference between policy and happenstance.
First you said it wasn't a POLICY decision, but now it does not matter? Well sparky it was obama's policy to send those troops there. Going back to your comment
Bush deserved criticism for Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, torture and starting a preemptive, preventative war of ideology.
obama deserves criticism for what the troops do.
Well, we see another poster descending to the level of fecal material.
One of our troops snapped, and created a horror. 16 innocent people are dead, for no reason at all. But people like you would use this a political fodder. You are an asshole, a peice of shit.
It is not the policy of our military to purposely kill and mutilate innocents. The people within our military are even more horrified by these actions than the rest of us. For they will bear the brunt of the attacks that are the result of the actions of one insane soldier.
First you said it wasn't a POLICY decision, but now it does not matter? Well sparky it was obama's policy to send those troops there. Going back to your comment
obama deserves criticism for what the troops do.
Well, we see another poster descending to the level of fecal material.
One of our troops snapped, and created a horror. 16 innocent people are dead, for no reason at all. But people like you would use this a political fodder. You are an asshole, a peice of shit.
It is not the policy of our military to purposely kill and mutilate innocents. The people within our military are even more horrified by these actions than the rest of us. For they will bear the brunt of the attacks that are the result of the actions of one insane soldier.
This stuff happens in every single war, it's not excusable but being in wars will inevitably cause some solidiers, no matter how well trained, to snap.
So when our war hungry chickenhawk president decides to increase warmongering even though it has nothing to do with the defense of the United States, he deserves blame for everything that happens in a war zone.
That's why I respect your opinion Drock, you're consistant, regardless of who is in office.
It doesn't MATTER who sent the troops there. What were their orders? The invasion of Afghanistan, Iraq, Abu Ghraib, Gitmo and torture were POLICY decisions by the despot Bush. Bush started both wars.
Obama ended our combat in Iraq, and plans combat withdrawal in Afghanistan by the end of 2014.
You seem to have a problem understanding the difference between policy and happenstance.
First you said it wasn't a POLICY decision, but now it does not matter? Well sparky it was obama's policy to send those troops there. Going back to your comment
Bush deserved criticism for Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, torture and starting a preemptive, preventative war of ideology.
obama deserves criticism for what the troops do.
WOW, you really are fucking obtuse.
Invasion of Afghanistan - Bush policy decision
Invasion of Iraq - Bush policy decision
Abu Ghraib - Bush policy decision
Guantánamo - Bush policy decision
Torture - Bush policy decision
US soldier killing of 16 innocent civilians - NOT an Obama policy decision
All I am doing is pointing out how hypocritical the left are.Well, we see another poster descending to the level of fecal material.
One of our troops snapped, and created a horror. 16 innocent people are dead, for no reason at all. But people like you would use this a political fodder. You are an asshole, a peice of shit.
It is not the policy of our military to purposely kill and mutilate innocents. The people within our military are even more horrified by these actions than the rest of us. For they will bear the brunt of the attacks that are the result of the actions of one insane soldier.
This stuff happens in every single war, it's not excusable but being in wars will inevitably cause some solidiers, no matter how well trained, to snap.
So when our war hungry chickenhawk president decides to increase warmongering even though it has nothing to do with the defense of the United States, he deserves blame for everything that happens in a war zone.
All I am doing is pointing out how hypocritical the left are.This stuff happens in every single war, it's not excusable but being in wars will inevitably cause some solidiers, no matter how well trained, to snap.
So when our war hungry chickenhawk president decides to increase warmongering even though it has nothing to do with the defense of the United States, he deserves blame for everything that happens in a war zone.
