13-year-old girl raped by more than a dozen illegal aliens in Texas

[Esmeralda]

What a sick world it has become. Beyond our economic and political issues, we have some huge moral and decency problems.

Well, one read through of historic novel "Gone With the Wind," viewing of a Shakespearean play or even a Greek tragedy, and it's pretty evident the sickness started far back in time. The good thing is, our society gives one the option to choose a higher path if desired. And this society is very forgiving. Just look at Anthony Weiner's campaign. People aren't connecting gross computer-related marital infidelity to greed-filled political corruption until the gavel drops on guilty of serial rape-torture-kill or repeat torture-murder-theft. All this requires considerable investigative efforts. By the time the culprit is caught red-handed, society is disinterested. People make bad decisions and use others badly when opportunity presents itself. They cover up these wrongs when they realize it, and blithely allow the onus to fall on someone else if the wrong is a crime and societal demand requires the slaughter of a lamb. Witnesses lie or remember details poorly, which can be changed by suggestion whether purposefully or unwittingly. Suggestions are often taken as gospel under pressure. They don't call it self-fulfilling prophecy for nothing.

People don't know much about human history if they think this is something new. It's ridiculous to attribute something like this to current events and issues, much less to a current US administration. Women have been treated like this throughout the ages, young women being particularly vulnerable. One reason a girl like this or a girl in the UK is exploited by a sex gang is because they live in a culture that does not limit or control their behavior, so they end up hanging out in the streets, running away from home, etc. It is a dilema because if women are to be free, it means they are also going to be more vulnerable as it appears there will always be men like this, whether they are illegal aliens, legal aliens, members of valued sports teams, or university frat boys.


Historically, the crimes we see today have always been around, it is just that we hear about it more because of the technology of modern media. It also seems to happen a lot because there are so many more people on the Planet than before. Since 1950 the World population has increased from about 2.5 billion to about 7 billiion. The more people there are, the more crime there is, as well, the more people living in less than ideal conditions and cultures that are deterioriating because of that. Plus, with the media broadcasting around the world all these incidents we didn't hear about before, it seems like we are going to hell, but it is really not different than before, it just seems worse.

To blame such events on Obama or any current social or political issue within the US alone is to display a complete lack of historical or world vision.

 

[freedombecki]

They're just raping the girls Americans don't want to.

Rape is not about ethnicity, and it never was.

That old bumper sticker - that good people come in all colors.

So do bad people.

I disagree with castration and deportation. If they're guilty, shoot them. I believe the same should be done to any child rapist of any ethnicity or nationality - including Catholic priests.

Or did all you haters forget about them?

How about we treat all people the same? You know, EQUALLY.

Creepy ass crackers would never allow that, would you.

"If they're guilty, shoot them. I believe the same should be done to any child rapist of any ethnicity or nationality - including Catholic priests."
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Some of our nation's Puritans did just that.

"Or did all you haters forget about them?"
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No, but we now observe the First Amendment's discipline covering speech and religion.

"How about we treat all people the same? You know, EQUALLY."
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Republicans have always believed in treating people equally under the same laws. So when others promise minorities better advantges than other American citizens get, it is painted that we're painted as cold, mean, and unfeeling for political advantage of liberals, when all we conservatives did was promote true equality. The Tea Party leadership was harassed by the IRS as targets under Obama's administration with repeated scrutiny of their income tax returns. That is not equal treatment. And no, I am not a Tea Party member, have never attended a Tea Party meeting, and am a whole-hearted Republican who has always been supportive of civility and equality.

 

[rightwinger]

I would not let those men become citizens

This case would have no bearing on the remaining 12 million illegals

 

[GHook93]

...arguments like these hurt the anti-illegal immigration argument. First, no race has cornered the market on rape. All do it. Legal and illegal immigrations, citizen and non-citizen do it. So saying we shouldn't have illegal immigration to stop rapist is counter productive.

Second the argument that Mexico is a 3rd world shithole ignores the facts on the ground. Mexico has the fast growing middle class in the world. They have a rapidly growing economy and are advancing in many ways. Part of the reason illegal immigration is well down from Mexico is because of it's emerging economy and I say GREAT for them!

We should keep the argument against illegal immigration for these reasons:
(1) They DO take jobs American will do!!!!
Only 4% work in agriculture. The areas that are high paying that AMERICANS of all race, religion, ethnicity and education level will work are Construction, Manufacturing, Mining, Business, Wholesale/Retail, Education/health services, Finance and Transportation which equates to 70% of illegal employment! AMERICAN WILL DO THIS WORK!!!

NYTimes:Only 4% of illegals work in agriculture... - ALIPAC
19.9 Construction
14.3 Manufacturing
3.9 Agriculture, forestry, fishing, hunting
0.2 Mining
17.2 Leisure/hospitality
12.9 Business/professional services
11.4 Wholesale/retail trade
5.6 Education/health services
3.2 Financial activities
3.0 Transportation and utilities
1.2 Information
7.2 Other services

(2) They Bankrupt Hospitals and Drastically rise the cost of healthcare. Why does an aspirin cost $5 at a hospital? Because they have to pay for all the uninsured individuals (over which a large portion are illegals) that use the emergency room as their general practioner. Yes not all uninsured are illegal immigrants, but over 90% of illegals are not insured. It will be worse under Obamacare. You want healthcare to be more affordable, then remove the 11 mil illegals without insurance from over-burdening our hospitals and doctors!

(3) They destroy schools. English as a second language is an extremely expensive program. These are programs especially set up for ILLEGALS by douche bag liberals. These expensive programs take away from the general education fund. There are a millions of reasons the inner city public schools are failing and education for illegal are one of them! They pay little in property taxes and take a ton of education tax dollars!

(4) They over utilize entitlements like welfare, section 8 and food stamps. This is a fact. Liberals have rigged the systems so they don't have to provide citizenship, esp food stamps. Many many illegals work under the table or on a someone else SSN. Then they apply for these programs showing no income and dozen or so babies!

(5) They are responsible for wage suppression. You ever wonder why Caeser Chavez, the Latino anti-American anti-White agriculture sector 'activist' (who of course Obama praised) absolutely hated illegal immigrants and started a Minute Man like organization? Because illegals suppressed the wages and benefits in the field he was trying to unionize. Whenever he tried to organize or negotiate, he had 1000s of illegals breaking lines to work for pennies and no benefits! Illegals are doing this in many industries, from food service, to assembly, to manufacturing to construction. If companies had to compete for workers (as they do in North Dakota), then you see wages go up and benefits increase! McDonald's workers in North Dakato make $15-$17 a hour STARTING OUT! Competing for workers equates to higher wages and more benefits (note: at least in ND it hasn't equated to higher prices. My buddy works on an oil rig for RIDICULOUS pay and came to visit, he was shocked how expensive McDonald's in Chicago was compared to ND)!

Stick to the good reasons for combating illegal immigration and not the ones that turn people off!

 

[RoadVirus]

castrate the bastards and then deport them.

Good luck. Obama's probably making sure they have free Green cards.