1:150 Autistic? I Doubt It

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    Something is wrong with these stats, going to see if I can find the 'study'...

    http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/couriernews/news/249945,3_1_EL09_A7AUTISM_S1.article

     
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    I heard that report. I doubt there's anything "wrong" with the stats. I'm fairly certain it's environmental given that NJ, with it's pockets of industry and pollution has the highest autism rate in the country.

    Why would we think all the garbage we put into our air and water wouldn't have an effect?
     
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    Found the study here-link top right corner to pdf:

    http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/

    Best I can tell so far, they've decided it rates right below mental retardation for threat to our 'children.' Seems they've decided to 'change the definition of autism,' which many of us in education noted a few years ago with 'Asperger's' suddenly added to 'watch for.' They've expanded the 'label' to include 'children who have difficulty making and keeping friends.' :cuckoo:

    Now autism is a tragedy when it strikes a child. The need for intervention is acute, time and financially expensive. I can understand the parents wanting more funding, but this is just a sham way of doing it.
     
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    Heres the problem as I see it.

    The government changes the way a diagnosis is made so more people fall into this catagory. They changed how a person is Dx with Autism about 8 years ago so people who were not previously autistic now are. The government did this in the 50's with weight. you went to bed healthy and the next day you were obese.

    This is a major problem with the medical societies and the government. Not everyone needs a label. sometimes kids are just lazy or need recess to get extra energy out (not autistic or hyperactive attention defecit). School systems and health systems receive more money for each "special needs" child they have in their system, now I'm not saying this is always the case but if you can label someone why not....:eusa_liar:
     
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    Something in the water? Or have we all just become hovering Jewish grandmothers? NOT EVERY CHILD CAN EXCELL!

    Deal with it - get past it - and move on. Evolution doesn’t care.
     
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    Actually, I have a fcouple of riends (one in NJ, come to think of it) whose kid has Apsbergers. There is nothing about it which can be confused with awkwardness. It's a very real set of symptomology and onset is often very noticeable. There are theories that the mercury in innoculations contributes to autism, but there is mixed evidence on that right now.

    Personally, I think ADHD is way over overdiagnosed. And that may be the case with autism. But simply discounting the numbers because you thnik they're *off* doesn't make for a convincing position.


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    we're not talking about not every kid excelling. We're talking about an escalating problem. Is it escalating because it's being overdiagnosed like ADHD? Might be. On the other hand it might be that we're doing something to our environment that is contributing (notice I didn't say "causing") to the numbers. I just think we should look at the circumstances before dismissing it out of hand.
     
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    I wasn't dismissing Asperger's, but it's not on the same level as autism. This had nothing to do 'with thinking the numbers are off', it has everything to do with changing the definition of autism, without noting so prominently in the report. One needs to read through and infer the changes and that's not kosher regarding the conclusions via headlines and subsequent articles that will come out in education journals.

    It's for the funding, one doesn't need to infer on that, it's stated plainly that the new numbers create a crisis that needs to be addressed.
     
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    Manufactured drama is not only stupid - it can be very dangerous.:rolleyes:
     
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    I attended a business course and one of the participant was a expert on aspegers he would charge 500 dollars to do a 2 HR assessment then sign a form confirming aspergers, then the parents could get insurance coverage for treatment which included 125 dollars week for a 1 hour visit from the expert.
    he was not MD .when i asked him to describe mild to moderate autism he was very vague in his descriptions i had to replied "when i was a kid we called that someones personality" when i asked how much he could determined in a 2 HR visit with the child and the parents he said" by the time the mums and dads call me they have pretty much figured it out for themselves and he just there to confirm "he also claimed to be able to diagnosis's as early as 16 months and since there has become a greater awarness and better insurance coverage the diagnosed cases have risen dramatical, if you do the math on 20 children thats 10,000 a yr for 40 hrs work and a additional 6000 per year per child 130.000 a year for a business with little overhead run from his apt
    it seems to me there is a big incentive to sign the insurance papers confirming the diagnoses
     
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    I got an invite to a 'conference' on Asperger's today. $350 for teachers, to recognize the 'symptoms' and how to approach parents to get further testing.

    Teachers are not doctors. It is wrong for teachers to diagnos kids. In this case, the education community from the top down is trying to 'educate' teachers into making recommendations to parents to get a diagnosis from pediatrician. This is 'hyperactivity' of late 2000's. It's wrong and way too broad.
     

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