Zelensky wants blood: demands US troops be part of "peacekeeping" force in Ukraine

[Sherlock Holmes]

They would if it was part of the armistice treaty.

That's simply saying Russia would approve of UN troops if it approved of UN troops, but it won't.

Understand something - Russia started the war for specific reasons, it has goals and only if those goals are met will Russia agree to anything.

That's why the recent ludicrous suggestion by the idiotic Trump that "delays" NATO membership by 10 or 20 years was immediately rejected by Russia.

It is an objective of the war to ensure that under no circumstances will Ukraine host NATO bases or assets and that the illegitimate US installed Zelensky regime is democratically removed from power.

If Trump can make that happen, the war will stop, so that's what he has to do but so far he seems just as inept as he always is when dealing with foreign matters.

The US should simply stop aiding Ukraine and desist from any support for its government, Trump has been signing executive orders for three days now and I just cannot understand why he's struggling over this simple decision.

 

[marvin martian]

Where are the warmongers? Lesh? Mac1958? rightwinger?

Your money-laundering savior Zelensky wants US troops on the ground in Ukraine, stat! Break out your pom-poms and start cheering!

 

[martybegan]

That's simply saying Russia would approve of UN troops if it approved of UN troops, but it won't.

Understand something - Russia started the war for specific reasons, it has goals and only if those goals are met will Russia agree to anything.

That's why the recent ludicrous suggestion by the idiotic Trump that "delays" NATO membership by 10 or 20 years was immediately rejected by Russia.

It is an objective of the war to ensure that under no circumstances will Ukraine host NATO bases or assets and that the illegitimate US installed Zelensky regime is democratically removed from power.

If Trump can make that happen, the war will stop.

Their goal was to remove the existing Ukrainian government and replace it. they failed.

Ukraine wants Donbas and Crimea back, they are failing.

Keep sucking that Putin dick.

 

[Contumacious]

Understand something - Russia started the war for specific reasons, it has goals and only if those goals are met will Russia agree to anything.

Russia was COERCED/PROVOKED to start the war for exactly the same reasons JFK initiated the USSR-US Missile Crisis in 1962.

 

[Contumacious]

Ukraine wants Donbas and Crimea back, they are failing.

The area East of the Dnipro River - NEW RUSSIA - was part of the former USSR since the 1600's - there is NOTHING for Russia "to give back"

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Their goal was to remove the existing Ukrainian government and replace it. they failed.

The US goal was to make Ukraine a NATO member, they failed.

Ukraine wants Donbas and Crimea back, they are failing.

The US wants the Panama canal back, they will fail.

Keep sucking that Putin dick.

 

[martybegan]

The area East of the Dnipro River - NEW RUSSIA - was part of the former USSR since the 1600's - there is NOTHING for Russia "to give back"

They can claim whatever they want, after all the population shuffling done after WWII Russia has weak claims on any area previously populated by X and replaced with Russians.

 

[marvin martian]

Russia was COERCED/PROVOKED to start the war for exactly the same reasons JFK initiated the USSR-US Missile Crisis in 1962.

Not sure about that, but Joe Biden certainly invited his boss Putin to invade Ukraine with his "minor incursion" comments.

 

[martybegan]

The US goal was to make Ukraine a NATO member, they failed.

The US wants the Panama canal back, they will fail.

Ukraine wanted it, and their concerns appear to have been justified.

What is the big difference between Poland and the Baltics in NATO and Ukraine in NATO?

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Biden would have joyfully sent our sons and daughters to die in Ukraine, but I'm not sure Trump will be so willing.

The Dems are in a rage over the imminent end of their money-laundering grift.

Now Zelensky is demanding US boots on the ground in his country.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

www.bloomberg.com

In an interview with Bloomberg Editor-in-Chief John Micklethwait, Zelenskiy said that his European allies don’t have enough soldiers to pose a realistic deterrent to President Vladimir Putin and any other solution would risk opening up divisions within the NATO alliance.

The 46-year-old Ukrainian leader is attempting to lock in support from his most important ally as the diplomatic push to halt the fighting in his country gathers pace. He bristled at the idea, floated Tuesday, that the military backing of his European allies would suffice.

'It can’t be without the United States,' Zelenskiy told Bloomberg Wednesday at the World Economic Forum in Davos. 'Even if some European friends think it can be, no it can’t be. Nobody will risk without the United States.'

Trump is not Weak Worthless *Joe. He will put him in his place immediately. The midget will demand nothing.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Ukraine wanted it, and their concerns appear to have been justified.

What is the big difference between Poland and the Baltics in NATO and Ukraine in NATO?

It crosses a red line. Russia said plainly at the time the Berlin wall came down and the reunification of Germany was underway, that Russia would only agree to the reunification if NATO did not begin to encroach upon the Russian border.

This is history, easy to go and find if you care too.

Russia said (I've read the US state dept. memos on this) that if NATO started to encourage bordering states to become NATO members, then Russia would "begin to mass troops along those borders".

Russia objected to Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania but avoided military action. The west though love to push push push push and Ukraine was perhaps the most strategically threatening potential NATO expansion and so they did what they said they'd do, nobody with any knowledge of all this was even slightly surprised at Russia invading Ukraine.

The United States has been fucking around for far too long, like it owns the fucking planet and every other nation must do it's bidding.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Now trumpanzees explain

Why has Trump not simply said what he implied he would, and that is announce no more military aid to Ukraine, what's the hold up? it's just another executive order - why is he hesitating?

He can quickly extricate the US from this war and stop wasting tax payers money - why is he scared to act???

The answer is that Trump is weak, he has no idea what to do, he's an idiot.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Biden would have joyfully sent our sons and daughters to die in Ukraine, but I'm not sure Trump will be so willing.

The Dems are in a rage over the imminent end of their money-laundering grift.

Now Zelensky is demanding US boots on the ground in his country.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

www.bloomberg.com

In an interview with Bloomberg Editor-in-Chief John Micklethwait, Zelenskiy said that his European allies don’t have enough soldiers to pose a realistic deterrent to President Vladimir Putin and any other solution would risk opening up divisions within the NATO alliance.

The 46-year-old Ukrainian leader is attempting to lock in support from his most important ally as the diplomatic push to halt the fighting in his country gathers pace. He bristled at the idea, floated Tuesday, that the military backing of his European allies would suffice.

'It can’t be without the United States,' Zelenskiy told Bloomberg Wednesday at the World Economic Forum in Davos. 'Even if some European friends think it can be, no it can’t be. Nobody will risk without the United States.'

WWIII here we come!

 

[martybegan]

It crosses a red line. Russia said plainly at the time the Berlin wall came down and the reunification of Germany was underway, that Russia would only agree to the reunification if NATO did not begin to encroach upon the Russian border.

This is history, easy to go and find if you care too.

Russia said (I've read the US state dept. memos on this) that if NATO started to encourage bordering states to become NATO members, then Russia would "begin to mass troops along those borders".

Russia objected to Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania but avoided military action. The west though love to push push push push and Ukraine was perhaps the most strategically threatening potential NATO expansion and so they did what they said they'd do, nobody with any knowledge of all this was even slightly surprised at Russia invading Ukraine.

The United States has been fucking around for far too long, like it owns the fucking planet and every other nation must do it's bidding.

So Russia should have bully power over it's neighbors?

Neighbors that would rather have protection from Western Europe?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Now trumpanzees explain

Why has Trump not simply said what he implied he would, and that is announce no more military aid to Ukraine, what's the hold up? it's just another executive order - why is he hesitating?

He can quickly extricate the US from this war and stop wasting tax payers money - why is he scared to act???

The answer is that Trump is weak, he has no idea what to do, he's an idiot.

^ This

Trump picked some really bad advisers on Ukraine

 

[Scoutster]

Trump nor the UN are going to send troops into Ukraine to fight Russians it’s not gonna happen. That would be the beginning of a potential WWlll.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

So Russia should have bully power over it's neighbors?

Don't be a wanker. The US went to war far far from home in the 1950s and after, because "communism" was declared an existential threat.

Russia sees NATO bases - some with US nuclear weapons - surrounding the country and sees that as an existential threat.

Russia position is FAR more credible than was the United States during Korea, Vietnam etc.

Neighbors that would rather have protection from Western Europe?

Protection from what?

 

[Marener]

Peace through strength. You don’t show strength by hiding.

 

[martybegan]

Don't be a wanker. The US went to war far far from home in the 1950s and after, because "communism" was declared an existential threat.

Russia sees NATO bases - some with nuclear weapons - surrounding the country and sees that as an existential threat.

Russia position is FAR more credible than was the United States during Korea, Vietnam etc.

Protection from what?

Nope. We went to our Allies in Western Europe, and now we go to our Allies in Eastern Europe.

And our allies in the Middle East.

No, it isn't.

Protection from Russia, you ignorant jew hating twat.

You sure pick shitty sides.

 

[Nostra]

Peace through strength. You don’t show strength by hiding.

When are you shipping out, Rambo?