Zelensky CANNOT AFFORD for this War to End

[Mac1958]

Considering Zal was just chillin' and Putin amassed 100,000 troops on his border for a full scale invasion that did occur and these people blame Zal, I wonder if these same people blame the wives for being beaten by the husbands because she didn't do as she was told?

Yes, the "you MADE me do it" excuse, used regularly by wife beaters, rapists, murderers and terrorists.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Totally wrong.

First of all, you are unaware of actual history, which says the Ukraine was always not just part of Russia, but the most important part.
Kyiv used to be the capital of Russia for example, and it only moved to Moscow due to the Mongol invasion.

Second is that you forget Russia can never allow the Ukraine to join NATO unless the US is first wiped off the map from a massive nuclear first strike.
Why? Because the Ukraine is INSIDE the Russian defense grid, so if the US were allowed to place cruise nukes in the Ukraine, then Russia would be defenseless against them. So then if Russia ever even suspects they might lose in the Ukraine, their only option would be the biggest pre-emptive nuclear strike on the US that they could possibly muster.
It is success by the Ukraine that ensures WWIII, not the other way around.
It is the US that is the aggressor, not Russia.
Go back to 2012, and you see the last democratic election was pro-Russia.
The current dictatorship in Kyiv is a coup bribed in 2014 by the US.

And actually, the US sided with the evil colonial imperialists who were guilty of starting both WWI and WWII. Germany was totally innocent in both those wars. Russia started WWI with assassination and France started WWI by invading southern Germany. The Treaty of Versailles stole over half of Germany and caused WWII to be justified and necessary. Read up on why the Germans surrendered in WWI? It was not combat defeat, but massive starvation of millions of German civilians by the illegal sinking of civilian food ships.

This might be the stupidest thing ever posted on the internet.

If Putin used nukes he wouldn't live to see the sun rise. If not from another nations nukes it would be a coup from within by his own military.

Beyond this, he would be placing the lives of millions of Russians at risk. It might not even come from the U.S first, England and France are not very friendly with Russia and they both have plenty of nukes.

That's a fairly strong motivation to NOT use them wouldn't you agree?

If Putin ordered the use of nukes, I suspect one of his generals would kill him within the hour.

WRONG!
If it ever looked like Putin was not going to win on the ground, then nuking the US would be the ONLY possible option left.
And there is not a single Russia who would disagree with Putin on the need to nuke the US.
The Ukraine is INSIDE the Russian defense grid, so Russia can never allow NATO nukes to be placed in the Ukraine.
England and France likely would do nothing if the US forced Russia to nuke the US.
And Russia can survive a nuclear war, that the US could not.
It is estimated that just 3 high altitude nukes above the US, would be enough EMP to wipe out all microchips, including all vehicles, cellphones, internet, TV, utilities, etc.
We would be left staving in the cold and dark.

And Russia would be GONE. They would be WIPED OUT, to almost the last man, woman, and child. Casualties would likely exceed 99%.

 

[Jarlaxle]

They've seen analysis that says that Putin can't afford for the war to end -- and there's a lot of it -- so they're trying to turn the tables.

For them, none of this can be Putin's fault, so they have to make ridiculous stretches.

You need 90 days observation.

 

[80zephyr]

Yes, your point?

How is Russia gonna attack anyone else when you claim they are barely beating Ukraine?

 

[konradv]

How is Russia gonna attack anyone else when you claim they are barely beating Ukraine?

You’re helping them beat Ukraine. That’s the point at hand. Why does MAGA support a dictator?

 

[80zephyr]

You’re helping them beat Ukraine. That’s the point at hand. Why does MAGA support a dictator?

Looks like a battle between two countries who suck, to me.

 

[frigidweirdo]

As I had stated, there was only ONE proposal - and therefore YOU are WRONG

And NO - Putin never rejected it - NATO and Ukraine rejected it, since they believed that they could win this war against Russia.

Due to the successful September 2022, offensive. The Kharkiv counteroffensive liberating most of that province. Another southern counteroffensive resulted in the liberation of Kherson in November. And Putin was aware of hundreds of NATO tanks and artillery that had been agreed upon to arrive by March/April 2023.

So YOU are wrong again.

How to "win" an argument. Take what someone has said, limit it, then tell the other person they're wrong because they don't meet your definition.

Fucking can't be bothered.

 

[Kruska]

How to "win" an argument. Take what someone has said, limit it, then tell the other person they're wrong because they don't meet your definition.

Fucking can't be bothered.

It isn't MY definition you moron - it's historical FACTS

Now begone sore LOOSER

 

[frigidweirdo]

It isn't MY definition you moron - it's historical FACTS

Now begone sore LOOSER

Ah, insults, welcome to the ignore list. Bye

 

[Kruska]

Ah, insults, welcome to the ignore list. Bye

 

[konradv]

Looks like a battle between two countries who suck, to me.

Wise up! Who do our usual allies support?

 

[j-mac]

How to "win" an argument. Take what someone has said, limit it, then tell the other person they're wrong because they don't meet your definition.

Fucking can't be bothered.

Oh, you think everyone is here to “win” arguments?

 

[80zephyr]

Wise up! Who do our usual allies support?

"Our usual allies" have went off the deep end. I believe what I see.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

MAGA lies.

BIDEN lies^

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Putin should realize his equipment, funds and manpower are drying up. Russia is hanging on by a thread, while Ukraine has Europe behind it. The US staying out invites WW3, just as staying out didn’t keep us out of 1&2.

BIDEN lies^

 

[konradv]

BIDEN lies^

BIDEN lies^

 

[konradv]

"Our usual allies" have went off the deep end. I believe what I see.

You should be seeing democracies standing up to a dictator. Take off your MAGA shades.

 

[80zephyr]

You should be seeing democracies standing up to a dictator. Take off your MAGA shades.

You mean like how they don't pay their fair share to NATO?

 

[konradv]

You mean like how they don't pay their fair share to NATO?

MAGA lies. This is about democracy, not the fact that, like US billionaires, some don’t pay their fair share.

 

[Mac1958]

A reminder, Russia invaded Ukraine.

Yeah, but according to Putin and Trump, it wasn't Russia's fault 'n stuff.