“You’re Here Because of Your Tattoos”

[IM2]

LOL Don't recall "you guys" whining when Obama threw 40% of the illegals he caught back in the river by expedited removal, i.e., without the third branch of government.

Stupid false equivalence.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

So there's no chance someone gets a tattoo that bears a passing similarity with what you consider a "gang tattoo"?

It is possible that someone that had never been to Venezuela could get a tattoo that resembles a gang tattoo. It's not possible for a Venezuelan to accidentally gets a Venezuelan gang tattoo.

 

[jknowgood]

You're hopeless. All you can do is ignore and blame.

We wouldn't be talking about this if it wasn't for Biden.

 

[Marener]

It is possible that someone that had never been to Venezuela could get a tattoo that resembles a gang tattoo. It's not possible for a Venezuelan to accidentally gets a Venezuelan gang tattoo.

What exactly constitutes a "gang tattoo" seems to depend on who you're talking to.

 

[braalian]

So there's no chance someone gets a tattoo that bears a passing similarity with what you consider a "gang tattoo"?

Tattoo artists are familiar with gang and prison tattoos. If a clueless customer- who clearly doesn’t know- asks for one, the artist will probably give them a heads up: “hey you might get your ass kicked if you get this”

 

[EvilCat Breath]

What exactly constitutes a "gang tattoo" seems to depend on who you're talking to. T

No. here are actual catalogues of gang tattoos and their meanings. They all have meanings. They aren't inked because they are pretty.

 

[Godboy]

So you’re okay with the government disappearing people without any due process?

If they arent citizens, they can sell them as slaves to the highest bidder for all I care.

 

[Seymour Flops]

That’s it exactly.

I have no doubt that some of these men should have been deported.

I also have no doubt that some should not have.

And that’s “troubling” in a democracy

If they were in the country illegally, they should have been deported.

 

[Seymour Flops]

How exactly will we see? He’s in El Salvador, and the Trump administration is saying out of the reach of the American judicial system.

He’s basically a non-person now.

El Salvador will take care of them.

 

[IM2]

Millions came across, even new york complained about the illegals being shipped there.

Millions were sitting in tent cities because of trump. That created the problem.

Immigrants were shipped to NYC without notice by Republican governors who had no real right do that.

 

[Marener]

If they arent citizens, they can sell them as slaves to the highest bidder for all I care.

You guys really are just a bunch of authoritarian thugs. Like, human rights mean nothing to you.

 

[IM2]

El Salvador will take care of them.

And we will end up paying for a million-dollar lawsuit.

 

[Meister]

Mother Jones has spoken with friends, family members, and lawyers of ten men sent to El Salvador by the Trump administration based on allegations that they are members of the Venezuelan organized crime group Tren de Aragua. All of them say their relatives have tattoos and believe that is why their loved ones were targeted. But they vigorously reject the idea that their sons, brothers, and husbands have anything to do with Tren de Aragua, which the Trump administration recently labeled a foreign terrorist organization. The families have substantiated those assertions to Mother Jones, including—in many cases—by providing official documents attesting to their relatives’ lack of criminal histories in Venezuela. Such evidence might have persuaded US judges that the men were not part of any criminal organization had the Trump administration not deliberately deprived them of due process.

On March 14, President Donald Trump quietly signed a proclamation invoking the Alien Enemies Act—a 1798 law last used during World War II. The order declared that the United States is under invasion by Tren de Aragua. It is the first time in US history that the 18th-century statute, which gives the president extraordinary powers to detain and deport noncitizens, has been used absent a Congressional declaration of war. The administration then employed the wartime authority unlocked by the Alien Enemies Act to quickly load Venezuelans onto deportation flights from Texas to El Salvador.

The men disappeared to El Salvador because of their tattoos

The Trump administration sent Venezuelans to El Salvador’s most infamous prison. Their families are looking for answers.

www.motherjones.com

I don't pretend to be a lawyer but it seems to me the regime has exposed itself to significant legal liability by virtue of sending what appear to be some innocent men to a notorious El Salvadorian prison based on a misinterpretation of the meaning of their tattoos.

Obviously, any member of the admin who may have committed a crime related to this matter will get a pardon. That is the implicit understanding of anyone carrying out trump's orders which may be illegal. But, even though the regime will disingenuously couch it as Dem's protecting illegal aliens, it appears some of the men taken have legal grounds to be let go. If that is so, one hopes the regime will suffer political repercussions for the constitutional violations it committed and for refusing to comply with court orders. Because if it doesn't, we are closer to the tacit approval of authoritarian governance than we ever have been before.

So Nelson Suarez says it's only the tattoo's huh? Well if the gangbanger says so, it has to be true.

 

[Marener]

No. here are actual catalogues of gang tattoos and their meanings. They all have meanings. They aren't inked because they are pretty.

Tattoos of deported Venezuelans don't necessarily signal gang affiliation, experts say

Relatives of some Venezuelan deportees believe the men were targeted as Tren de Aragua members based on their tattoos, but a gang expert said this isn’t a reliable identifier.

www.nbcnews.com

It's pretty absurd on it's face that a tattoo is proof of guilt.

 

[jknowgood]

Millions were sitting in tent cities because of trump. That created the problem.

Immigrants were shipped to NYC without notice by Republican governors who had no real right do that.

This happened under Biden's watch, try again.

 

[IM2]

If they were in the country illegally, they should have been deported.

But we don't know that. Seems that some of them were legal. So when are yu going to push trump to deport the millions of white European visa overstay illegals here in this country? They are the best number of undocumented people. Elon Musk was one, for example.

 

[Rawley]

You don't see a difference in deportation and indefinite detention?

I don't see anything in the statute indicating where they are being deported to as making any difference

Really?

Really

Again, forward you complaints to your congress critter.

 

[IM2]

This happened under Biden's watch, try again.

Actually it was caused by Trump, and BIden inherited the mess. Because Trump entered office with crossings at 40-year lows. Besides, I don't want t keep reading the whining from the descendants of illegal immigrants. STFU.

 

[Seymour Flops]

And we will end up paying for a million-dollar lawsuit.

Only if a Democrat ever gets elected president again, which looks unlikely. Then they will encourage people to sue the United States and “settle” with them.

 

[Rawley]

Stupid false equivalence.

Brilliant analysis.