Your thoughts on Online Schooling

[Correll]

My son is dealing with online classes here in Indiana. Personally I think it makes a lot of sense. The two big knocks are younger students not getting routine and lessons they need in a school environment, and the lack of social contact that makes many home schooled kids awkward. Also, it would be a death blow to sports. My opinion is to have kids go to school through seventh grade, and then for the older kids, make it online. As for sports, I dearly love them, but I don't see why it is federally funded under 'education.' Sports options should be dealt with on a county or city basis. You don't need athletics to learn teamwork and effort. That is a ridiculous excuse for the funding of sports. Keep in mind, my dad was a teacher, and I played football, wrestled and was a swimmer, and I loved them all. I think online teaching for older kids could offer tremendous opportunities. I have found teacher quality declining at a steady rate, mostly because they do not get payed much and education changes every time the wind blows. How much do you think the department of education would fight this?

This is where republicans turn into socialist bitches because many of them rely on public school so both parents can work.

public school is outdated and a huge waste of money. I know all the arguments people make for the social interaction but let’s cut the shit. Brick and mortar and busing all your kids back and forth is a huge cost we all don’t need. Every kid should get a new tablet every year and they should online school. if you want more go to private school.

I agree with your point about school being used as a tool so both parents can work.

But if you think only republicans play that game, you are kidding yourself.

No I didn't say that. But the point is, the minute you attach public schools, all of the sudden Republican voters become very socialist defending public schools.

So for yours your side has been attacking public schools as being a waste of money and they are doing it bad and inefficiently. Well I agree with you. We can no longer afford public schools brick and mortar and buses and gas and faculty who are paid to teach gym and graduate idiots. We can do this online and public school kids should be doing school on a tablet. If you want more go to private. If you can't afford then you shouldn't have had kids.

We are over populated and this will help slow the growth in human bodies. Fewer people having fewer kids. Perfect.

And then my taxes will go down. Pay for your own kids.


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The minute you attack public schools, the media goes and shoves a camera in the face of republican voters that support the public schools, to support the us vs them game.


The republican voters who support school choice, are still there. They just get ignored because they agree with the attack.


This creates the illusion of flip flopping, but it is a creation of the way the media operates.

 

[sealybobo]

My son is dealing with online classes here in Indiana. Personally I think it makes a lot of sense. The two big knocks are younger students not getting routine and lessons they need in a school environment, and the lack of social contact that makes many home schooled kids awkward. Also, it would be a death blow to sports. My opinion is to have kids go to school through seventh grade, and then for the older kids, make it online. As for sports, I dearly love them, but I don't see why it is federally funded under 'education.' Sports options should be dealt with on a county or city basis. You don't need athletics to learn teamwork and effort. That is a ridiculous excuse for the funding of sports. Keep in mind, my dad was a teacher, and I played football, wrestled and was a swimmer, and I loved them all. I think online teaching for older kids could offer tremendous opportunities. I have found teacher quality declining at a steady rate, mostly because they do not get payed much and education changes every time the wind blows. How much do you think the department of education would fight this?

This is where republicans turn into socialist bitches because many of them rely on public school so both parents can work.

public school is outdated and a huge waste of money. I know all the arguments people make for the social interaction but let’s cut the shit. Brick and mortar and busing all your kids back and forth is a huge cost we all don’t need. Every kid should get a new tablet every year and they should online school. if you want more go to private school.

I agree with your point about school being used as a tool so both parents can work.

But if you think only republicans play that game, you are kidding yourself.

No I didn't say that. But the point is, the minute you attach public schools, all of the sudden Republican voters become very socialist defending public schools.

So for yours your side has been attacking public schools as being a waste of money and they are doing it bad and inefficiently. Well I agree with you. We can no longer afford public schools brick and mortar and buses and gas and faculty who are paid to teach gym and graduate idiots. We can do this online and public school kids should be doing school on a tablet. If you want more go to private. If you can't afford then you shouldn't have had kids.

We are over populated and this will help slow the growth in human bodies. Fewer people having fewer kids. Perfect.

And then my taxes will go down. Pay for your own kids.


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The minute you attack public schools, the media goes and shoves a camera in the face of republican voters that support the public schools, to support the us vs them game.


The republican voters who support school choice, are still there. They just get ignored because they agree with the attack.


This creates the illusion of flip flopping, but it is a creation of the way the media operates.

No, it exposes the idiots who vote GOP but send their kids to public schools and couldn't do without PUBLIC schools.

Or the idiots who work for public schools and vote GOP.

 

[sealybobo]

We are most certainly NOT "overpopulated."

Yes we are. Look at California during the lockdown. The air has suddenly cleaned up.

Didn't I call this before the coronavirus? I said the old brick and mortar days should be gone and we should give every kid a tablet and they can go to public school online. People said no way but now it's not sounding like such a bad idea. And when we realize how much money we can save.

Let's face it. Most people who graduate from public schools are not prepared for the real world. If that's the best you can do with 12 fucking years of education, it's no wonder Republicans don't want to fund such a bad institution. We can do just as good online for pennies on the dollar.

You could teach 5 x the kids you teach now. We would cut the number of teachers we the people employ. Colleges are doing this why not k-12?

Hell, a robot can do your job. No wonder you are always talking about the intangibles that come with public schools like sports. Well we can organize sports outside of school in fact privatize it. Pay $500 so your kid can play baseball or wrestle. If you can't afford it, tough shit. Republicans rule. Go to a private school that has wrestling if you want to wrestle.

This virus has exposed the truth. We are overpopulated and brick and mortar schools are a huge waste of money just so mom and dad can work. Without public babysitters, I mean schools, most moms can't work. They rely on the status quote so they can work for the man. Well I'm done subsodizing it. School choice! Defund public schools NOW.

 

[Unkotare]

We are most certainly NOT "overpopulated."

Yes we are. ...

Nowhere near. Some people are so bluntly stupid that they can't bring themselves to let go of a false crisis fed to them when they were kids. Seems they never got any wiser than the dopey kids they were. We are NOT "overpopulated." The world produces far more than enough food to feed every soul alive and several billion more. In the US, without immigration we would be shrinking in population by now.

 

[Unkotare]

... Most people who graduate from public schools are not prepared for the real world. ...

Speak for yourself.

 

[Unkotare]

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You could teach 5 x the kids you teach now. ....

You admittedly know nothing about education. Stay in your lane, sales monkey.

 

[Unkotare]

... Without public babysitters, I mean schools, most moms can't work. They rely on the status quote so they can work for the man. ...

Go tell your fellow democrat women that you, in all your wisdom, have decided women should not be allowed to work. Great idea, jitler.

 

[Pogo]

It will foster a lot more social awkwardness.

A big part of school is learning how to interact with other people.

NOPE. FUCK that shit. All it does is get in the way.

Aww, who's a socially regressive wittle triggered Pogtard...aww!

Pogo was homeschooled and he's one smart cookie.

I only wish I'd been homeschooled, since I had done absolutely nothing to deserve that twelve years imprisonment. But it is fair to say everything I've learned has been in spite of that prison (certainly including social interaction) not at all because of it. Institutional schooling (school, as in fish, not as in education) is a robot-programming, cookie-cutting, socially poisoning, drone-developing creativity-crushing cesspool where human potential goes to die, decompose and draw metaphorical maggots.

So I guess to get back to the OP topic, if I had (a) child(ren) I'd absolutely want personal hands-on control of their education and would not want them anywhere near such an institution. It would just be cruel.

Seriously, the "school" environment has been quite successful for hundreds of years.

And yes, it does foster healthy interactivity with other people vs. living in a bubble.

Traditional high school does by necessity cram the same set of shoes on every student, whether or not they fit. When you've got 20 or more students entering your classroom every hour, you can't give them all the individual attention they could benefit from. I think teachers try. At least the ones that aren't burnt out by it all do. There will always be Pogo's who march to a different drummer and are frustrated by it.

Teachers take individual strengths and weakness, and varying learning styles into consideration. However, students are part of a class rather than personal ego-soothing sessions. This is not oppression. Do you think these students go out into the world and find jobs with companies that make everything about them individually? Hold their hands and make grilled cheese just like mommy did? There is a real world out there, and nobody gives a shit what sensitive little pogos feeeeeel. You do no one any favors by hiding reality from them.

Whelp, just look at it this way.

Between myself and your worthless ass, which one of us turned out to be a sociopathic dystopian contrarian asshole who intentionally names himself after excrement in a state of unfortunate viscosity?

Chew on that, Chuckles. And for fuck's sake wash your hands.

 

[Unkotare]

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Between myself and your worthless ass, which one of us turned out to be ...

...turned out to be someone who has devoted his entire professional life to serving others? To working with and for those who need his education, training, and experience the most? Who understands that the fucking universe doesn't revolve around his own little feelings? And which one turned out to be a whiny, self-centered, delusional dilettante with the emotional development of a 3 year old? Grow the fuck up and stop bullshitting, or go live alone on a fucking ice floe, loser. "Waaa! They made me sit in a chair and shut the fuck up once in a while! Waaa! Everything every minute of every day wasn't about what I and I alone wanted at any given moment! Waaa!"

 

[Pogo]

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Between myself and your worthless ass, which one of us turned out to be ...

...turned out to be someone who has devoted his entire professional life to serving others? To working with and for those who need his education, training, and experience the most?

Yep, I've done that but unlike your wangly ass I ain't here to talk about ME ME ME AND DID I MENTION ME?

You have fun in your little bubble, Bubbles. SMH

 

[sealybobo]

We are most certainly NOT "overpopulated."

Yes we are. ...

Nowhere near. Some people are so bluntly stupid that they can't bring themselves to let go of a false crisis fed to them when they were kids. Seems they never got any wiser than the dopey kids they were. We are NOT "overpopulated." The world produces far more than enough food to feed every soul alive and several billion more. In the US, without immigration we would be shrinking in population by now.

That doesn't prove we aren't overpopulated. Global warming proves we are. The polluted oceans means too many humans. The landfills and we don't know what to do with the garbage.

I think we overconsume about 8 months into the year. That means 4 months we are overconsuming. I've shown these before but since you don't provide links to back up your claims, why should I?

 

[sealybobo]

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Between myself and your worthless ass, which one of us turned out to be ...

...turned out to be someone who has devoted his entire professional life to serving others? To working with and for those who need his education, training, and experience the most? Who understands that the fucking universe doesn't revolve around his own little feelings? And which one turned out to be a whiny, self-centered, delusional dilettante with the emotional development of a 3 year old? Grow the fuck up and stop bullshitting, or go live alone on a fucking ice floe, loser. "Waaa! They made me sit in a chair and shut the fuck up once in a while! Waaa! Everything every minute of every day wasn't about what I and I alone wanted at any given moment! Waaa!"

Well how is it then that so many of us here see you as this horrible person?

You aren't serving others. Or if you are, so is a McD employee. You serve. And you get paid for it. If you were good at anything else that would have paid more, you would have done it. You remind me of my cop buddy. Such a Republican. But now he's going to retire from the police and he's going to run for politics. Not because he wants to "serve" but because he's not worth shit in the public sector. Or the job he would have to do would not be easy and he could get fired or fail. So instead of going into business, instead he's going to try to continue sucking off the government tit.

You work for a paycheck. You are overpaid in most people's minds. So you are serving yourself. Summers off? Shit.

 

[Andylusion]

My son is dealing with online classes here in Indiana. Personally I think it makes a lot of sense. The two big knocks are younger students not getting routine and lessons they need in a school environment, and the lack of social contact that makes many home schooled kids awkward. Also, it would be a death blow to sports. My opinion is to have kids go to school through seventh grade, and then for the older kids, make it online. As for sports, I dearly love them, but I don't see why it is federally funded under 'education.' Sports options should be dealt with on a county or city basis. You don't need athletics to learn teamwork and effort. That is a ridiculous excuse for the funding of sports. Keep in mind, my dad was a teacher, and I played football, wrestled and was a swimmer, and I loved them all. I think online teaching for older kids could offer tremendous opportunities. I have found teacher quality declining at a steady rate, mostly because they do not get payed much and education changes every time the wind blows. How much do you think the department of education would fight this?

I'm not entirely sure that going to school prevents kids from being socially awkward. I'm about as social awkward as you can possibly get, and I went to public schools, which was horrific for me, and likely why I'm social awkward.

Equally I know people who were home schooled, and were very well adjusted.

Now obviously you have to arrange for your kid to go out and play with other kids.

As for online schooling itself, the only real problem, is the problem you outlined. Unless you have a particularly self-motivated kid, then you the parent have to make discipline the primary focus. You have to keep your kid at the desk doing their work, until it is done.

Generally though, I don't think there is much that can't be taught online, and provided you have parents that make it happen, I would suggest you'll end up with better education, than in a classroom full of out of control kids distracting your kid.

 

[sealybobo]

... Without public babysitters, I mean schools, most moms can't work. They rely on the status quote so they can work for the man. ...

Go tell your fellow democrat women that you, in all your wisdom, have decided women should not be allowed to work. Great idea, jitler.

They can work. They just have to pay for a babysitter because there kids are doing online public schooling.

Maybe if you didn't pay women 70 cents for every dollar you pay men, they could afford the babysitter/nanny.

 

[Unkotare]

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Between myself and your worthless ass, which one of us turned out to be ...

...turned out to be someone who has devoted his entire professional life to serving others? To working with and for those who need his education, training, and experience the most? Who understands that the fucking universe doesn't revolve around his own little feelings? And which one turned out to be a whiny, self-centered, delusional dilettante with the emotional development of a 3 year old? Grow the fuck up and stop bullshitting, or go live alone on a fucking ice floe, loser. "Waaa! They made me sit in a chair and shut the fuck up once in a while! Waaa! Everything every minute of every day wasn't about what I and I alone wanted at any given moment! Waaa!"

Well how is it then that so many of us here see you as this horrible person?
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I can't control what you or similarly stupid people think.

 

[Unkotare]

... Without public babysitters, I mean schools, most moms can't work. They rely on the status quote so they can work for the man. ...

Go tell your fellow democrat women that you, in all your wisdom, have decided women should not be allowed to work. Great idea, jitler.

They can work. ....

Oh, how gracious of you!

 

[Unkotare]

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You aren't serving others. ...

In fact, I am.

 

[Unkotare]

... If you were good at anything else that would have paid more, you would have done it. ....

You want to assume that everyone else is as selfish, greedy, untalented, and morally bankrupt as yourself to make it easier to sleep at night - alone.

 

[DustyInfinity]

I want to point out that the thread is NOT about homeschooling. I apologize if I steered it in that direction. Children would benefit greatly from a school setting, and once they are old enough, the programs they would complete online would be completely done through the education system. Having them go to school early would socialize the kids and teach them things they need from school setting when they are young, and well designed programs could give the older kids some unique and very advanced training.

 

[Unkotare]

... Global warming proves we are. The polluted oceans means too many humans. The landfills and we don't know what to do with the garbage.

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No, it doesn't. The temperature of this planet has varied for millions and millions of years and will for as long as it exists. Pollution, waste, war, disease and any of the other illogical arguments the chicken littles cling to have all existed for as long as there have been at least TWO human beings on earth.