Your Favorite Things About Israel

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[Woodznutz]

You are correct Jesus was a Jew and so were all of his followers, a fact that too many people who call themselves Christians are unaware of.

Most of Jesus' followers were Israelites, but not Jews.

Matthew 4

12 Now when Jesus had heard that John was cast into prison, he departed into Galilee;

13 And leaving Nazareth, he came and dwelt in Capernaum, which is upon the sea coast, in the borders of Zabulon and Nephthalim:

14 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,

15 The land of Zabulon, and the land of Nephthalim, by the way of the sea, beyond Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles;

16 The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up.

17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Most of Jesus' followers were Israelites, but not Jews.

If you were at all familiar with the New Testament, you would know that all his apostles were Jews, that he said he had been sent only to save the Jews and that his ministry concerned Jewish religious matters.

 

[Woodznutz]

If you were at all familiar with the New Testament, you would know that all his apostles were Jews, that he said he had been sent only to save the Jews and that his ministry concerned Jewish religious matters.

Jesus was "sent only" to the "lost sheep of the house of Israel", the so-called 'lost tribes' of the northern kingdom. Jewish "religious matters" were infected with Jewish tradition by that time.

Although most of the disciples/apostles were Jews they too were sent to the descendants of the lost tribes. And while they surely reached a few most of their message would be delivered much later with the Reformation and the publishing of their letters in the New Testament canon.

 

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[toomuchtime_]

Jesus was "sent only" to the "lost sheep of the house of Israel", the so-called 'lost tribes' of the northern kingdom.

There were Jews and there were pagans, and Jesus was quite clear he came only for the Jews. It was Paul, who lived 100 years after Jesus and whose ministry was in Greece, who fashioned the movement to appeal to Pagans.

 

[Woodznutz]

There were Jews and there were pagans, and Jesus was quite clear he came only for the Jews. It was Paul, who lived 100 years after Jesus and whose ministry was in Greece, who fashioned the movement to appeal to Pagans.

Why so few Jews in the church that Jesus built?

 

[toomuchtime_]

You and I read different Bibles.

Same bible, but you for some reason don't want to recognize that in all his words and actions, according to the gospels, he was concerned only with Jewish religious matters.

 

[Woodznutz]

Same bible, but you for some reason don't want to recognize that in all his words and actions, according to the gospels, he was concerned only with Jewish religious matters.

That's a different subject. He railed at the Jewish leadership for perverting God's Law. He left 'Jewry' and ministered to the lost sheep of the house of Israel living in the region of Galilee and Samaria. He only returned to Judea to become the Passover sacrifice. The disciples didn't remain in Judea either but also preached to the remnants of the northern kingdom still living in the region. See James 1:1.

 

[toomuchtime_]

That's a different subject. He railed at the Jewish leadership for perverting God's Law.

No he didn't. At the time, there were two versions of the Jewish religion that were in conflict with each other, the synagogue religion, which was created during the Babylonian exile, and the ancient Temple religion.

Jesus was an adherent of the ancient Temple religion, and he was critical of both the prelists and the worshippers for not, in his opinion, observing the rituals as they had been observed in ancient times. For example, he raged through the Temple courtyard chasing the money changers away because he was enraged by the fact worshippers at the Temple purchased animals for sacrifice instead of raising the animals themselves.

Again, in all his words and actions, Jesus was concerned only with Jewish religious matters and not at all with anything else.

 

[Sixties Fan]

No he didn't. At the time, there were two versions of the Jewish religion that were in conflict with each other, the synagogue religion, which was created during the Babylonian exile, and the ancient Temple religion.

Jesus was an adherent of the ancient Temple religion, and he was critical of both the prelists and the worshippers for not, in his opinion, observing the rituals as they had been observed in ancient times. For example, he raged through the Temple courtyard chasing the money changers away because he was enraged by the fact worshippers at the Temple purchased animals for sacrifice instead of raising the animals themselves.

Again, in all his words and actions, Jesus was concerned only with Jewish religious matters and not at all with anything else.

Hello both of you. Is your conversation about Your Favorite Things about Israel? No? Then please stop and take the conversation to the correct thread. Thank you.

 

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