You wont be saving $2500

[Manonthestreet]

I think more people get priced out of a policy than outright canceled....with same net effect...that option is still on the table.....

you can't get priced out of health care thats not how it works ... you policy is based on your income ... if you are a family of 4 and make less then 200,000 a year you get a rebate on your policy you will pay less... stop saying stupid shit... you don't think you just spew out nonsense[/QUOTE


Funny stuff right there......so why can't people afford Ocare............ take your time...try something besides the talking points they gave you......

 

[LoneLaugher]

Your portion of Health Insurance Premiums cannot exceed 9.5% of your income, folks. So if you are paying a lot......you are making a lot.

 

[Manonthestreet]

I'm not on ocare so I'm not paying even half that amount....but if you think that's affordable......be my guest.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I'm not on ocare so I'm not paying even half that amount....but if you think that's affordable......be my guest.

What do you mean you are not on Obamacare? After all this time, you'd think you'd know something about the subject.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I think more people get priced out of a policy than outright canceled....with same net effect...that option is still on the table.....

You sound pretty sure; that "I think" argument is rather compelling....

Never heard of mass cancellations until ocare....know many who were priced out though including myself, twice.

You were playing the catastrophic angle, sherlock, socializing your risk and pocketing the privatization.

You priced yourself out. Pay your premiums and don't think we should pick up the catastrophe for you.

 

[JakeStarkey]

I want to see cold hard data that anyone was "priced out."

Horse crap.

What folks are mad about is that they can't pay the catastrophic shell game, where they were socializing the risk on the rest of us.

 

[Manonthestreet]

You sound pretty sure; that "I think" argument is rather compelling....

Never heard of mass cancellations until ocare....know many who were priced out though including myself, twice.

You were playing the catastrophic angle, sherlock, socializing your risk and pocketing the privatization.

You priced yourself out. Pay your premiums and don't think we should pick up the catastrophe for you.

fraid not ....that's the copay plan including dental and vision for 3%

 

[emilynghiem]

Hi [MENTION=45886]Mad_Cabbie[/MENTION]

With all the political and financial pull the Democrat Politicians have
through their party, corporate ties, and supporters of ACA,
why can't the same negotiated group rates and terms of insurance
be set up WITHOUT signing names to the "business contract"
of citizens who DIDN'T agree to be compelled to purchase under such plans.

Wouldn't you be horrified if a housing plan was created
to cover a portion of everyone's housing, but people who didn't agree to be
part of the pool lost freedom to invest their money directly into their
own housing plans and coops, and instead were fined if they didn't
buy into the larger group's pool they were forced into by law?

Why not just have the members who AGREE to be part of that pool chip in?

So the coverage offered is proportional to the people who participate
WITHOUT forcing anyone in who wants to invest in a different pool and plan?

Isn't that more natural and sensible?

(And I'm not just throwing this out there as a hypothetical argument.
I really have been asking support of fellow liberals to use the Democrat Party
structure to set this up, to shift the ACA structures over to the Democrat Party
who support singlepayer and make taht system work for people who want it to work.
and leave out people who want other free market systems through their own
networks or party. I really am pushing to find people willing to take on this
approach so everyone can pursue the plans for health care they believe in. I think it's fair.)

I've got insurance for the first time in years and yes, it's affordable.

I even have dental coverage.

What's really cool is if I get sick ... I mean, REALLY sick, they cannot drop me, nor can they stop paying when I reach some "cap."

Good times!

 

[LoneLaugher]

Hi [MENTION=45886]Mad_Cabbie[/MENTION]

With all the political and financial pull the Democrat Politicians have
through their party, corporate ties, and supporters of ACA,
why can't the same negotiated group rates and terms of insurance
be set up WITHOUT signing names to the "business contract"
of citizens who DIDN'T agree to be compelled to purchase under such plans.

Wouldn't you be horrified if a housing plan was created
to cover a portion of everyone's housing, but people who didn't agree to be
part of the pool lost freedom to invest their money directly into their
own housing plans and coops, and instead were fined if they didn't
buy into the larger group's pool they were forced into by law?

Why not just have the members who AGREE to be part of that pool chip in?

So the coverage offered is proportional to the people who participate
WITHOUT forcing anyone in who wants to invest in a different pool and plan?

Isn't that more natural and sensible?

(And I'm not just throwing this out there as a hypothetical argument.
I really have been asking support of fellow liberals to use the Democrat Party
structure to set this up, to shift the ACA structures over to the Democrat Party
who support singlepayer and make taht system work for people who want it to work.
and leave out people who want other free market systems through their own
networks or party. I really am pushing to find people willing to take on this
approach so everyone can pursue the plans for health care they believe in. I think it's fair.)

I've got insurance for the first time in years and yes, it's affordable.

I even have dental coverage.

What's really cool is if I get sick ... I mean, REALLY sick, they cannot drop me, nor can they stop paying when I reach some "cap."

Good times!

Wow! That's really innovative. I'm sure you'll get lots of support.

 

[Antares]

But...but he was working hard on a plan that would save the average family $2500 a year. I SAW him say it a hundred times. I'm crushed.

he never said that... he said you can save up to, or as much as, $2500 dollars ... stop quoting rightwingnutjobs ... no you saw him say up to, or as much as, $2500 dollars ... thats the problem with your repub-lie-tardes you don't comprehend whats being said ...

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15E7goj7Fmo

Billy is still an idiot

 

[Antares]

"I will sign a universal health care bill into law by the end of my first term as president that will cover every American and cut the cost of a typical family's premium by up to $2,500 a year."
The Obameter: Cut the cost of a typical family's health insurance premium by up to $2,500 a year | PolitiFact

 

[Manonthestreet]

facts inconvenient again ......oh my

 

[Meister]

he never said that... he said you can save up to, or as much as, $2500 dollars ... stop quoting rightwingnutjobs ... no you saw him say up to, or as much as, $2500 dollars ... thats the problem with your repub-lie-tardes you don't comprehend whats being said ...

He certainly did shy away from the real truth that premiums would dramatically be raised.

Except for those who are being subsidized on the backs of those who's were raised.

if you want to say stupid shit i can't stop you ...go read the law moron listen carefully what he said not what some rightwingnutjob told ya...

Try debating what I stated, moron. It ain't free dude, but yours probably is.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Never heard of mass cancellations until ocare....know many who were priced out though including myself, twice.

You were playing the catastrophic angle, sherlock, socializing your risk and pocketing the privatization.

You priced yourself out. Pay your premiums and don't think we should pick up the catastrophe for you.

fraid not ....that's the copay plan including dental and vision for 3%

sure it was. pay your premiums. move along.

 

[Antares]

Banned twice in one week....gotta be a record.

 

[Politico]

Did you seriously think anything done by the government was going to save you money?

Please send me your tax refund check, then.

You're already benefiting from his raised premiums through you being subsidized, and now you want his refund check to?
Sheesh

That's how Leftytoons roll. They got insurance so that means everyone is. Not increasing spending is a cut. Yada yada.

 

[Shanty]

3,137-County Analysis: Obamacare Increased 2014 Individual-Market Premiums By Average Of 49% 3,137-County Analysis: Obamacare Increased 2014 Individual-Market Premiums By Average Of 49% - Forbes

The Manhattan Institute? LOL

 

[Meister]

3,137-County Analysis: Obamacare Increased 2014 Individual-Market Premiums By Average Of 49% 3,137-County Analysis: Obamacare Increased 2014 Individual-Market Premiums By Average Of 49% - Forbes

The Manhattan Institute? LOL

What do you have.....besides a troll knee jerk response?

 

[Shanty]

I think more people get priced out of a policy than outright canceled....with same net effect...that option is still on the table.....

You sound pretty sure; that "I think" argument is rather compelling....

With the subsidies for those who qualify, you're doing something wrong if you get priced out of insurance.

 

[Manonthestreet]

[ame=http://youtu.be/dP_fa-FqT_c]WHEC-NY: New York Family Hit With A 22% Premium Increase Due To ObamaCare Costs - YouTube[/ame]