"You have humiliated us"

[rightwinger]

Ret. Navy Admiral to Trump: ‘I Would Consider It an Honor if You Would Revoke My Security Clearance’

a Washington Post op-ed Thursday afternoon. Few Americans have done more to protect this country than John. He is a man of unparalleled integrity, whose honesty and character have never been in question, except by those who don’t know him."




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McRaven gave 37 years of his life to the Navy before retiring in 2014 with the honor of being the longest serving Navy SEAL to still be on duty.



"Therefore, I would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well, so I can add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency," McRaven continues.



Admiral McRaven also served as the first director of the NATO Special Operations Forces Coordination Centre (NSCC), and ninth commander of the United States Special Operations Command, and just retired as chancellor of the University of Texas System.



"Through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a nation," the Admiral continues. "If you think for a moment that your McCarthy-era tactics will suppress the voices of criticism, you are sadly mistaken."



The Post includes this short clip of McRaven calling Trump's attack on the free press as "the enemy of the American people," possibly "the greatest threat to democracy" in his lifetime.

I have the utmost respect for this man as he made it through hell week to become a SEAL.

He served for thirty seven years but if he's retired now why does he need a security clearance??

No retired anybody needs a security clearance unless they are still performing a duty to the Govt.

Trump made a banana republic kind of move.....Stifle free speech?? Trump is slime

Having a security clearance revoked isn't stifling free speech you dumbass.

You can say whatever you want even if you do have a security clearance. You just can't talk about what you learned using that clearance.

Jesus are you stupid.

If that was the case, then it would be justified to pull his clearance

But there have been no claims that he Compromised classified information

Oh bullshit. He's no longer the director and he doesn't need a security clearance. He's just a US citizen now.

Same as you and me. Do you have a security clearance??

I have a badge that lets me in and out of our secured area.

Guess you could call that a security clearance though its not the same as the one Brennan had.

He's just a citizen now and has no need of a security clearance.

Ain't rocket science folks.

He isn’t an intelligence professional with decades of experience. His advice is still valuable in the public and private sector and he needs access to classified information to give that advice.

And yes, I am retired and still have an active security clearance

 

[rightwinger]

Why do people who no longer work in the intelligence community need security clearance? I have seen this question asked by many different people but I have yet to see a good reason given for them to have it. If you work at a company in the private sector and have access to highly sensitive company information it's highly unlikely they will let you continue to have access to it when you leave the company.

Purging your military and or intelligence services of the best sources of empirical experience, advisors, and consultants for politicals is just stupid.

He was not purged his appointment ended and he was replaced by Mike Pompeo and he has now moved on to a TV gig which he does not need a security clearance to do. If people who serve in military and or intelligence services can not put their personal feelings towards the President they serve aside they don't need to be there doesn't matter who the President is.

In fact anybody with a tv gig should have their clearance revoked as a matter of course.

Why?

In this case you have that gig because of your knowledge and experience
This knowledge and experience is still valuable to our country

Is he going to lose that knowledge if his security is revoked?
And what good does it do him or her when they cant discuss what they know anyway?

To provide an assessment of an intelligence issue he needs access to current intelligence reports

 

[edward37]

Ret. Navy Admiral to Trump: ‘I Would Consider It an Honor if You Would Revoke My Security Clearance’

a Washington Post op-ed Thursday afternoon. Few Americans have done more to protect this country than John. He is a man of unparalleled integrity, whose honesty and character have never been in question, except by those who don’t know him."




ADVERTISING
McRaven gave 37 years of his life to the Navy before retiring in 2014 with the honor of being the longest serving Navy SEAL to still be on duty.



"Therefore, I would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well, so I can add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency," McRaven continues.



Admiral McRaven also served as the first director of the NATO Special Operations Forces Coordination Centre (NSCC), and ninth commander of the United States Special Operations Command, and just retired as chancellor of the University of Texas System.



"Through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a nation," the Admiral continues. "If you think for a moment that your McCarthy-era tactics will suppress the voices of criticism, you are sadly mistaken."



The Post includes this short clip of McRaven calling Trump's attack on the free press as "the enemy of the American people," possibly "the greatest threat to democracy" in his lifetime.

Obviously McRaven is a commie, liberal, un-American, un-patriotic lying scumbag. Since he does not toe the line to the greatest President ever, like an obsequious toady, he deserves to be attacked, without mercy, as an enemy of the people.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Purging your military and or intelligence services of the best sources of empirical experience, advisors, and consultants for politicals is just stupid.

He was not purged his appointment ended and he was replaced by Mike Pompeo and he has now moved on to a TV gig which he does not need a security clearance to do. If people who serve in military and or intelligence services can not put their personal feelings towards the President they serve aside they don't need to be there doesn't matter who the President is.

In fact anybody with a tv gig should have their clearance revoked as a matter of course.

Why?

In this case you have that gig because of your knowledge and experience
This knowledge and experience is still valuable to our country

Is he going to lose that knowledge if his security is revoked?
And what good does it do him or her when they cant discuss what they know anyway?

To provide an assessment of an intelligence issue he needs access to current intelligence reports

It doesnt work that way.

 

[rightwinger]

It is not the keys to the building

A clearance shows you have been thoroughly investigated and are authorized access to classified data

There are more than one “buildings” that require clearance in both the public and private sector

You've retired or been dismissed from your job. You don't need or deserve access to any building or information.

You still can go to other positions that require access to classified information

Then go get a new clearance. You either retired in which we no longer need you or you were fired and we sure as hell don't need you. Either way you don;t need a security clearance.

Many, many soldiers and sailors just leave the service either through retirement or completing their enlistment

These people have skills that are in demand in the private or public sector. These jobs require a clearance
To wipe out their clearance and make them start from scratch can take well over a year to get a new clearance

So what percentage of those leaving the military go on to another job where clearance would still be needed?
The whining little ***** we're discussing doesnt need it for his job at UT.

I worked DoD for 40 years. I saw many, many ex military working in DoD and Defense Contractors

 

[rightwinger]

He was not purged his appointment ended and he was replaced by Mike Pompeo and he has now moved on to a TV gig which he does not need a security clearance to do. If people who serve in military and or intelligence services can not put their personal feelings towards the President they serve aside they don't need to be there doesn't matter who the President is.

In fact anybody with a tv gig should have their clearance revoked as a matter of course.

Why?

In this case you have that gig because of your knowledge and experience
This knowledge and experience is still valuable to our country

Is he going to lose that knowledge if his security is revoked?
And what good does it do him or her when they cant discuss what they know anyway?

To provide an assessment of an intelligence issue he needs access to current intelligence reports

It doesnt work that way.

Afraid it does

Ex military and civilian experts are often brought back in consulting positions

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

You've retired or been dismissed from your job. You don't need or deserve access to any building or information.

You still can go to other positions that require access to classified information

Then go get a new clearance. You either retired in which we no longer need you or you were fired and we sure as hell don't need you. Either way you don;t need a security clearance.

Many, many soldiers and sailors just leave the service either through retirement or completing their enlistment

These people have skills that are in demand in the private or public sector. These jobs require a clearance
To wipe out their clearance and make them start from scratch can take well over a year to get a new clearance

So what percentage of those leaving the military go on to another job where clearance would still be needed?
The whining little ***** we're discussing doesnt need it for his job at UT.

I worked DoD for 40 years. I saw many, many ex military working in DoD and Defense Contractors

So they had a reason to need clearance.

 

[Lysistrata]

You libtards are the swamp....

Trump is spanking your ass.

Yeah you schmuck you nitwits are trying to spank this guy?
McRaven gave 37 years of his life to the Navy before retiring in 2014 with the honor of being the longest serving Navy SEAL to still be on duty.

Good for him.
But why does he need security clearance?

To be called upon for his expertise when times get tough. This is a longstanding tradition in our government for those retired and our seniors to be called on for active duty and input in times of trouble. These are proven professionals. Do you really want to destroy our nation's brain trust just because of a no-good reality TV star?

LOL speaking of TV star Can't wait to hear more tapes Amarosa has trump by the short hairs

Just more libtard bull shit like the Russian hoax to protect hillary

and the deep state from what they did...……….

All of it is blowing away like a fart in the wind...…

All you libtards throw at Trump will come back to destroy you.....

A freakin' reality TV star who is just a stupid whore? No record of any kind of service to the American People.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

In fact anybody with a tv gig should have their clearance revoked as a matter of course.

Why?

In this case you have that gig because of your knowledge and experience
This knowledge and experience is still valuable to our country

Is he going to lose that knowledge if his security is revoked?
And what good does it do him or her when they cant discuss what they know anyway?

To provide an assessment of an intelligence issue he needs access to current intelligence reports

It doesnt work that way.

Afraid it does

Ex military and civilian experts are often brought back in consulting positions

So you think retired military personal can just walk up and ask for classified information?

 

[edward37]

You've retired or been dismissed from your job. You don't need or deserve access to any building or information.

You still can go to other positions that require access to classified information

Then go get a new clearance. You either retired in which we no longer need you or you were fired and we sure as hell don't need you. Either way you don;t need a security clearance.

Many, many soldiers and sailors just leave the service either through retirement or completing their enlistment

These people have skills that are in demand in the private or public sector. These jobs require a clearance
To wipe out their clearance and make them start from scratch can take well over a year to get a new clearance

So what percentage of those leaving the military go on to another job where clearance would still be needed?
The whining little ***** we're discussing doesnt need it for his job at UT.

I worked DoD for 40 years. I saw many, many ex military working in DoD and Defense Contractors

And now these idiots bash the guy who served for 37 years who OVERSAW the Bin Laden take down

 

[Claudette]

I have the utmost respect for this man as he made it through hell week to become a SEAL.

He served for thirty seven years but if he's retired now why does he need a security clearance??

No retired anybody needs a security clearance unless they are still performing a duty to the Govt.

Trump made a banana republic kind of move.....Stifle free speech?? Trump is slime

Having a security clearance revoked isn't stifling free speech you dumbass.

You can say whatever you want even if you do have a security clearance. You just can't talk about what you learned using that clearance.

Jesus are you stupid.

If that was the case, then it would be justified to pull his clearance

But there have been no claims that he Compromised classified information

Oh bullshit. He's no longer the director and he doesn't need a security clearance. He's just a US citizen now.

Same as you and me. Do you have a security clearance??

I have a badge that lets me in and out of our secured area.

Guess you could call that a security clearance though its not the same as the one Brennan had.

He's just a citizen now and has no need of a security clearance.

Ain't rocket science folks.

He isn’t an intelligence professional with decades of experience. His advice is still valuable in the public and private sector and he needs access to classified information to give that advice.

And yes, I am retired and still have an active security clearance

Yes and if he's needed another clearance can be issued.

I have a security clearance as well. I need mine. I doubt you need yours.

 

[Deno]

Yeah you schmuck you nitwits are trying to spank this guy?
McRaven gave 37 years of his life to the Navy before retiring in 2014 with the honor of being the longest serving Navy SEAL to still be on duty.

Good for him.
But why does he need security clearance?

To be called upon for his expertise when times get tough. This is a longstanding tradition in our government for those retired and our seniors to be called on for active duty and input in times of trouble. These are proven professionals. Do you really want to destroy our nation's brain trust just because of a no-good reality TV star?

LOL speaking of TV star Can't wait to hear more tapes Amarosa has trump by the short hairs

Just more libtard bull shit like the Russian hoax to protect hillary

and the deep state from what they did...……….

All of it is blowing away like a fart in the wind...…

All you libtards throw at Trump will come back to destroy you.....

A freakin' reality TV star who is just a stupid whore? No record of any kind of service to the American People.

Dumb ass, that applies better to obongo….

 

[Correll]

He wouldn't say this if he were still active duty and you wouldn't support him at all if he said the same thing about Obama.

Case closed.

Case open and he through his service to this country .is far more entitled to his thoughts on the ah in our wh than you can ever be

We all have equal rights to have thought on the President and express them.


That you don't know this, says EVERYTHING about the Left that anyone needs to know.

Because of his position he knows far more than a slug like you will ever know about Trump Therefor he's more entitled

No, he is not.

What you just said there, goes completely against everything that America stands for.

ok so you know more than him ''' his educated statements and opinions are the same as yours? Really

Sorry, your attempt to walk back your anti-Democratic statements is rejected.


We all the the same Right to Free Speech, regardless of our service to the nation, or lack there of.

 

[DrLove]

I'll go with these 12 not cowardly traitors
12 former top intelligence officials criticize Trump for pulling security clearance
The rare statement from the former officials comes one day after Trump pulled former CIA director John Brennan’s security clearance.

Edward my boy - You should know by now that these military and intelligence heroes are all "Deep State". And McRaven was such a traitor that it was his plan that killed bin Laden - Osama after all was a true conservative hero, so they weren't very happy about that.

 

[DrLove]

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NAILED IT

Obviously McRaven is a commie, liberal, un-American, un-patriotic lying scumbag. Since he does not toe the line to the greatest President ever, like an obsequious toady, he deserves to be attacked, without mercy, as an enemy of the people.

 

[Lysistrata]

Why do all of these posters want to help the slut in the Oval Office hide what he is doing from the American People? There are many people who seem to want a dictatorship in this country. They are not patriotic Americans.

 

[edward37]

Case open and he through his service to this country .is far more entitled to his thoughts on the ah in our wh than you can ever be

We all have equal rights to have thought on the President and express them.


That you don't know this, says EVERYTHING about the Left that anyone needs to know.

Because of his position he knows far more than a slug like you will ever know about Trump Therefor he's more entitled

No, he is not.

What you just said there, goes completely against everything that America stands for.

ok so you know more than him ''' his educated statements and opinions are the same as yours? Really

Sorry, your attempt to walk back your anti-Democratic statements is rejected.


We all the the same Right to Free Speech, regardless of our service to the nation, or lack there of.

nobody said you didn't have the right to free speech you put words in my mouth What I did say, the seal who has clearance is far more educated in where he's coming from than you

 

[edward37]

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NAILED IT

Obviously McRaven is a commie, liberal, un-American, un-patriotic lying scumbag. Since he does not toe the line to the greatest President ever, like an obsequious toady, he deserves to be attacked, without mercy, as an enemy of the people.

It pains me to know these repub dotards are countrymen of mine

 

[Correll]

We all have equal rights to have thought on the President and express them.


That you don't know this, says EVERYTHING about the Left that anyone needs to know.

Because of his position he knows far more than a slug like you will ever know about Trump Therefor he's more entitled

No, he is not.

What you just said there, goes completely against everything that America stands for.

ok so you know more than him ''' his educated statements and opinions are the same as yours? Really

Sorry, your attempt to walk back your anti-Democratic statements is rejected.


We all the the same Right to Free Speech, regardless of our service to the nation, or lack there of.

nobody said you didn't have the right to free speech you put words in my mouth What I did say, the seal who has clearance is far more educated in where he's coming from than you

"en·ti·tled
inˈtīdld,enˈtīdld/
adjective

1. believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.

"


I am willing to believe that you did not understand the meaning of the word you were using.


So, we are in agreement, there is nothing special about this admiral that gives him more of a Right to speak on this or any other issue, than any other American?

 

[DrLove]

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NAILED IT

Obviously McRaven is a commie, liberal, un-American, un-patriotic lying scumbag. Since he does not toe the line to the greatest President ever, like an obsequious toady, he deserves to be attacked, without mercy, as an enemy of the people.

It pains me to know these repub dotards are countrymen of mine

I don't run into many Trumptards in real life as long as I stay in Boise.
Wander over into Nampa and Caldwell - they're crawling like cockroaches.
I try to stay out of Nampa and Caldwell ... There are enough of them to slap around here in USMB ;-)