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and if shtf, you're not going to GET to run and get this or that "right gun for the job". So the longarm that you pick had BETTER be the most versatile one. There's going to be far more cattle, hogs, and horses than elk, moose or bears, and the 308 is wasted on them, or on men or dogs, much less cats and small game.
I don't think of my silenced M4 as a 223 with a .22lr conversion unit. I think of it as a .22lr that has a 223 option. Cause mostly, you'll have to handle shtf with subsonic .22's. Or else you'l call in your killers and run of game with the noise that you'll be making. Or you'll get killed cause you couldn't hide your M1A in your pack, or you'll run out of ammo for it, when you could have carried 3-4x as many rds (split between 223 /22lr).
Regardless of how "great" a gun is, it's nothing without ammo. 308 is 16-18 rds to the lb, depending upon the bullet weight. An M1 A weighs 9 lbs, and steel, 20 rd M14 mags weigh 7 ozs each. A steel, 30 rd AK mag is 11 ozs, and 30 AK ammo (and .45 ACP 230 gr ammo) is 22 rds to the lb. 60 gr subsonic .22lr is 100 rds to the lb. Regular .22lr ammo is 135 rds to the lb. 223 and 9mm, depending upon bullet weight, are 35-40 rds to the lb. An aluminum, 30 rd AR mag weighs 5 ozs. Some variants of the AR weigh just 4 lbs. 5 lbs of body armor is more likely to save you, if shtf, than your second mag of 308 ammo (without a suppressor).
I don't think of my silenced M4 as a 223 with a .22lr conversion unit. I think of it as a .22lr that has a 223 option. Cause mostly, you'll have to handle shtf with subsonic .22's. Or else you'l call in your killers and run of game with the noise that you'll be making. Or you'll get killed cause you couldn't hide your M1A in your pack, or you'll run out of ammo for it, when you could have carried 3-4x as many rds (split between 223 /22lr).
Regardless of how "great" a gun is, it's nothing without ammo. 308 is 16-18 rds to the lb, depending upon the bullet weight. An M1 A weighs 9 lbs, and steel, 20 rd M14 mags weigh 7 ozs each. A steel, 30 rd AK mag is 11 ozs, and 30 AK ammo (and .45 ACP 230 gr ammo) is 22 rds to the lb. 60 gr subsonic .22lr is 100 rds to the lb. Regular .22lr ammo is 135 rds to the lb. 223 and 9mm, depending upon bullet weight, are 35-40 rds to the lb. An aluminum, 30 rd AR mag weighs 5 ozs. Some variants of the AR weigh just 4 lbs. 5 lbs of body armor is more likely to save you, if shtf, than your second mag of 308 ammo (without a suppressor).
