You are unemployed and want a new job, under a Democratic president you have a better chance of getting one!

[protectionist]

It is very difficult to have a discussion with someone as blind-by-choice and such an ass-kisser of Trump as you are. Facts do not mean anything to you and yet you turn and accuse the Democrats of things that are much lesser consequence than what Trump has done and yet you make it sound so much worse.

As such, debating with you is like debating with a brick wall but a brick wall that every time I open my mouth, throws a smelly fart


Donald Trump has agreed to pay a $25 million settlement to the people who attended Trump University in 2007, 2008, 2009, or 2010.4

CLOWN-FOOL. You think I dont know that ?

It's obvious that you are 100% programmed by the liberal media, universities think tanks, etc., who only tell you what they WANT you to hear and think.

Trump did NOT have to return monies from Trump U. Whatever he did regarding Trump University, was merely to take the path of least economic and time/work resistance. The overwhelming majority of Trump U students were satisfied and happy, and QUIET.

In any endevour, there will always be gripers, whether they have any legitimate gripe or not. I owned a business and had people griping at me who had received FREE memberships.

The Trump University issue is just another example of th left media's constant twisting & spinning issues, until they have it just how they would like you to perceive it, and you fall for it.

 

[protectionist]

You have made some very WILD CLAIMS in this post, while not presenting a shred of evidence.
This is typical of leftwingers who watch CNN, MSNBC, PBS, et al leftist media which throws crazy ideas around like pillows in a pillow fight.

Show something to back up your weird claims that >>>
1. "Trump’s intent to gut Medicaid, food assistance, and housing subsidies"

2. "Trump is against rent controls and providing adequate rental assistance to working-class families that need it."

3. "the reality is that his policies and the expenses working-class families had to bear, far outweighed any small gains from tax cuts.

4. "The working class ended up with more bills and fewer protections,"
.

#s 2, 3, and 4 on this list are exactly attributle to Joe Biden.

 

[protectionist]

Protectionist, your attempt to dismiss my arguments with a condescending tone doesn’t change the fact that your claims are riddled with inaccuracies and half-truths. Let’s address them point by point.

1. Trump's Tax Cuts:

You claim that Trump cut taxes more for the lower income groups than for the rich. While it’s true that Trump's tax cuts included reductions for all income brackets, the reality is that the wealthiest Americans received a much larger absolute benefit from these cuts. The top 1% saw their after-tax income increase significantly more than any other group. Additionally, the corporate tax rate was slashed from 35% to 21%, overwhelmingly benefiting the wealthy and large corporations. These tax cuts also contributed to ballooning the deficit, which Republicans conveniently ignore when they benefit the rich but use as a pretext to cut social programs that help the working class.

Despite the tax cuts under the Trump administration, other expenses for the working class have increased, effectively negating any benefits that the tax cuts might have provided. Here are some key points to consider:

1. Healthcare Costs:
   
   • Under the Trump administration, there were efforts to undermine the Affordable Care Act (ACA), which led to uncertainty and rising healthcare costs for many Americans. Premiums for health insurance, prescription drug prices, and out-of-pocket healthcare expenses continued to rise, putting a strain on working-class families despite the tax cuts.
2. Housing Costs:
   
   • The cost of housing has continued to rise, particularly in urban areas. Rent and home prices have increased significantly, outpacing wage growth. The tax cuts did nothing to address the housing affordability crisis, and in some cases, the reduction in federal revenue contributed to cuts in programs that could have helped alleviate these issues.
3. Education Costs:
   
   • College tuition and student loan debt have continued to skyrocket, placing an increasing burden on working-class families. The Trump administration rolled back some consumer protections for student borrowers, which further exacerbated the financial challenges related to education.
4. State and Local Taxes:
   
   • The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) of 2017 capped the state and local tax (SALT) deduction at $10,000, disproportionately affecting middle-class taxpayers in states with higher taxes. This cap increased the effective tax burden for many working- and middle-class households in those states.
5. Public Services and Infrastructure:
   
   • The federal tax cuts led to reduced revenue for the government, which in turn resulted in budget cuts at the state and local levels. This has affected public services like education, transportation, and infrastructure, leading to higher costs for the working class, who often rely on these services.
6. Inflation and Cost of Living:
   
   • While the Trump tax cuts provided a short-term boost in take-home pay for some, the longer-term effects included increased deficits and national debt, which can contribute to inflationary pressures. As a result, the cost of living has continued to rise, particularly for essential goods and services, effectively diminishing the purchasing power of the tax cuts.

2. Biden and Taxation:

Your claim that there has been "no change in taxation on the rich" under Biden is misleading. The Biden administration has proposed several tax increases on the wealthiest Americans and corporations, including raising the corporate tax rate and increasing the top marginal tax rate for high earners. The challenge, however, lies in the Senate, where Republican obstruction and a few conservative Democrats have stalled these proposals. The fact remains that Biden's administration is working to increase taxes on the wealthy to fund essential social programs and infrastructure investments that benefit everyone, not just the rich.

3. Rent Control in Blue States:

You cherry-pick examples of blue states with bans on rent control or without statewide rent control laws, but this doesn’t tell the whole story. Many blue states and cities have strong tenant protections and rent control measures in place, especially in areas with significant housing affordability issues. For example, New York City and San Francisco have well-established rent control policies. Furthermore, Democrats at the federal level have consistently advocated for increased affordable housing and rental assistance programs. Republicans, on the other hand, have largely opposed these measures, favoring market-based solutions that have proven ineffective in addressing the housing crisis.

Republicans complaining about Dem rent control policies:

Democrats are more likely to be pro-rent control than Republicans. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous at best.
​

4. Wall Street Donations:

Yes, Hillary Clinton received significant donations from Wall Street during her campaign, which is a point of criticism from progressives and socialists alike. However, this doesn’t change the fact that Democratic policies generally favor stronger regulations on financial institutions, protections for consumers, and support for working families. In contrast, Republicans have consistently pushed for deregulation, which led to the 2008 financial crisis, and continue to advocate for policies that benefit the wealthy elite at the expense of the working class.

5. Comparing Red and Blue States:

Comparing red and blue states on rent control is a disingenuous tactic. The reality is that rent control and tenant protection policies are typically stronger in blue states and cities, where Democrats have more control. The absence of statewide rent control in some blue states doesn’t negate the fact that Democratic lawmakers and city governments in these states are actively working to address housing affordability through various means, including rent control, affordable housing initiatives, and rental assistance programs.

On the other hand, Republican-controlled states and cities often reject these measures, leading to higher rents and fewer protections for tenants.

Protectionist, your arguments rely on selective data and misleading claims. The truth is that Democratic policies are far more aligned with protecting the working class, advocating for affordable housing, and regulating the excesses of the wealthy and powerful. Republicans, including Trump, have consistently prioritized tax cuts for the rich, deregulation, and policies that exacerbate income inequality and housing insecurity. Your attempt to paint the Democratic Party as hypocritical while ignoring the blatant pro-wealthy policies of the Republican Party doesn’t hold up under scrutiny.

There are too many FALSE statements and inaccuracies in your post, that I am willing to take the time to correct. Maybe you have all day to sit here and post very lengthy rants. I don't.
So I'll just address a few, and let your credibility sink like a rock, to extend to the rest of your blather.

1, Regarding tax cuts th rich got cuts of 2.6%. The lower classes got bigger cuts at 3 & 4%. If the cuts that the rich got involved more $$$, well OMG, what a surprise! That's because they MAKE more money. Duh!

2. Regarding healthcare, you claim > "Premiums for health insurance, prescription drug prices, and out-of-pocket healthcare expenses continued to rise, putting a strain on working-class families"
Actually, under Trump healthcare improved greatly by >>

• Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE,
• FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. > drug companies are froze or reversed planned price increases,
• reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars,
• Signed Right-To-Try legislation,
• $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic (the most ever),
• Signed VA Accountability Act,
• expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care (I got surgeries and benefits from this myself) Through the COVID pandemic, our
• 2020- Covid mortality rate was REDUCED from over 17,000/week in April, to about 2000/week in June, and remained very low throughout the year, as a result of the many smart things that Trump did..
  90% REDUCTION. > HUGE SUCCESS.
• Massive production of Ventilators - These were left in short supply after the Obama/Biden admin (we now have so many we're exporting them),
• the Navy hospital ships sent to New York, & Los Angeles
• The Task Force advice (ex. social distancing)
• opposition/criticism of New York's dumb nursing home policies
• federal aid to hospitals, rapidly expanding production & distribution of medical supplies
• travel bans (which Democrats called Trump a "racist' for),
• Trump's advocacy of Hydroxychloriquin (now proven to be effective, despite criticism from Democrats), and Regeneron
• fast, continual development of a vaccine, and rapid success of Operation Warp Speed.
• Created & signed the MISSION ACT, replacing the failed Obama Choice Act
• And if anyone wants healthcare, they don't need Obamacare. Here's another suggestion. Join the MILITARY.

3. Housing costs -

You couldn't be more off on anything than you are on this. Under Biden, housing rents have skyrocketed more & faster that anything imaginable in all my 78 years. My own case is a good example. In 2020, I was paying $600/mo for a 1 bdrm apartment. Through all Trump's years, my rent went up $25 each year.
In 2021, it went to $850. In 2022, $1000. In 2023, $1200. In 2024, still $1200 (100% inflation), but some apartments are required to be renovated, pushing the rent ro $1600/mo (167% inflation).
Apartments that were less than $1000/mo under Trump, are now $2000/mo, commonly.

State & local taxes are functions of blue states and localites. Red states (like my state of Florida) and red cities DON'T HAVE state & local axes, period.

Inflation was 1.4% when Trump left office. During his tenure, multiple quarters had zero inflation.
Since Biden came in, inflation has been astronomical, since he cancelled oil production in Alaska & Gulf of Mexico in 2021 & 2022. This caused major reductions in supply, sending gas prices up 100-200%. Not only gas prices soared, so did everything else, as manufacturers (of everything) now had to double their transport costs of gas & diesel fuel.

As I said, I don't have time to attend to your whole post, I have doctor's appointment in the morning, and it's 11: 10 PM here in Florida.

 

[TruthNotBS]

There are too many FALSE statements and inaccuracies in your post, that I am willing to take the time to correct. Maybe you have all day to sit here and post very lengthy rants. I don't.
So I'll just address a few, and let your credibility sink like a rock, to extend to the rest of your blather.

1, Regarding tax cuts th rich got cuts of 2.6%. The lower classes got bigger cuts at 3 & 4%. If the cuts that the rich got involved more $$$, well OMG, what a surprise! That's because they MAKE more money. Duh!

2. Regarding healthcare, you claim > "Premiums for health insurance, prescription drug prices, and out-of-pocket healthcare expenses continued to rise, putting a strain on working-class families"
Actually, under Trump healthcare improved greatly by >>

• Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE,
• FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. > drug companies are froze or reversed planned price increases,
• reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars,
• Signed Right-To-Try legislation,
• $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic (the most ever),
• Signed VA Accountability Act,
• expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care (I got surgeries and benefits from this myself) Through the COVID pandemic, our
• 2020- Covid mortality rate was REDUCED from over 17,000/week in April, to about 2000/week in June, and remained very low throughout the year, as a result of the many smart things that Trump did..
  90% REDUCTION. > HUGE SUCCESS.
• Massive production of Ventilators - These were left in short supply after the Obama/Biden admin (we now have so many we're exporting them),
• the Navy hospital ships sent to New York, & Los Angeles
• The Task Force advice (ex. social distancing)
• opposition/criticism of New York's dumb nursing home policies
• federal aid to hospitals, rapidly expanding production & distribution of medical supplies
• travel bans (which Democrats called Trump a "racist' for),
• Trump's advocacy of Hydroxychloriquin (now proven to be effective, despite criticism from Democrats), and Regeneron
• fast, continual development of a vaccine, and rapid success of Operation Warp Speed.
• Created & signed the MISSION ACT, replacing the failed Obama Choice Act
• And if anyone wants healthcare, they don't need Obamacare. Here's another suggestion. Join the MILITARY.

3. Housing costs -

You couldn't be more off on anything than you are on this. Under Biden, housing rents have skyrocketed more & faster that anything imaginable in all my 78 years. My own case is a good example. In 2020, I was paying $600/mo for a 1 bdrm apartment. Through all Trump's years, my rent went up $25 each year.
In 2021, it went to $850. In 2022, $1000. In 2023, $1200. In 2024, still $1200 (100% inflation), but some apartments are required to be renovated, pushing the rent ro $1600/mo (167% inflation).
Apartments that were less than $1000/mo under Trump, are now $2000/mo, commonly.

State & local taxes are functions of blue states and localites. Red states (like my state of Florida) and red cities DON'T HAVE state & local axes, period.

Inflation was 1.4% when Trump left office. During his tenure, multiple quarters had zero inflation.
Since Biden came in, inflation has been astronomical, since he cancelled oil production in Alaska & Gulf of Mexico in 2021 & 2022. This caused major reductions in supply, sending gas prices up 100-200%. Not only gas prices soared, so did everything else, as manufacturers (of everything) now had to double their transport costs of gas & diesel fuel.

As I said, I don't have time to attend to your whole post, I have doctor's appointment in the morning, and it's 11: 10 PM here in Florida.

1. Tax Cuts:

You claim that tax cuts for the rich were a mere 2.6%, while the lower classes got 3-4%. First, let's clarify. Percentage tax cuts mean nothing without context. The top 1% saw their share of the tax benefits increase massively because, in real terms, they still make exponentially more and gain far more from those so-called "small" cuts. Meanwhile, the working class, with a marginally higher percentage cut, got pennies compared to the vast sums the wealthy saved.

And let’s be real here, who benefitted from Trump's tax cuts? The rich, overwhelmingly. The Tax Policy Center even reported that the wealthiest 20% of Americans received about 65% of the total benefit from those cuts, while the bottom 60% saw barely anything. This is typical of trickle-down economics – it doesn’t trickle down, it floods upwards.

---

2. Healthcare:

You tout a bunch of Trump-era policies as major victories for healthcare, but this conveniently ignores the damage his administration did to millions of Americans. Yes, the Obamacare mandate penalty was removed, but let’s not forget why the mandate existed in the first place – to ensure there were enough healthy people in the pool to make insurance premiums affordable for everyone else. What happened after the mandate's removal? Premiums went up for those who kept insurance. And the rise of cheaper, short-term plans left many Americans with garbage insurance that didn’t cover essential services.

Sure, there were some generic drug approvals – that was not a Trump policy. That’s a process that would have occurred under any administration. As for the opioid epidemic, throwing money at it after allowing pharmaceutical companies to exploit the crisis for years isn't a solution. Real reform would involve targeting the root causes – economic inequality, lack of access to mental health care, and predatory pharmaceutical practices – which Trump's policies did little to address.

The "Right-to-Try" legislation was largely symbolic. The vast majority of patients still struggled with skyrocketing healthcare costs and insurance companies finding loopholes to deny them care. Trump's VA reforms were riddled with issues too, and let's not pretend that telehealth was some new invention under his administration. The VA has been underfunded and overstressed for years, long before Trump's tenure.

As for the COVID-19 response, it was nothing short of a disaster. The Trump administration downplayed the virus for months, leading to hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths. Those ventilators? They were essential, but Trump refused to use the Defense Production Act early enough to ramp up production, and that delay cost lives. And don’t even get me started on Hydroxychloroquine – an unproven treatment Trump irresponsibly pushed.

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3. Housing Costs:

You point to your personal experience with rent increases, but one anecdote doesn’t prove a broader economic reality. Rent increases and housing affordability issues have been ongoing for decades, across both Republican and Democratic administrations. Trump's tax cuts exacerbated this issue by funneling wealth upwards and encouraging speculation in real estate markets, which disproportionately hurt working-class renters. And sure, Biden hasn’t fixed it, but Trump did nothing to make housing more affordable. The primary driver of rent hikes is corporate landlords and real estate investment trusts (REITs), entities which thrive under the very capitalist framework Trump championed.

---

4. Inflation and Gas Prices:

Blaming Biden for inflation is a complete oversimplification. Inflation was a global issue post-pandemic, triggered by disrupted supply chains, production bottlenecks, and rising demand after lockdowns. While U.S. policies play a role, this is an economic phenomenon far bigger than oil production in Alaska or the Gulf. In fact, U.S. oil production hit near-record highs in 2022.

Gas prices? Those have more to do with the manipulation of oil markets by OPEC and multinational corporations than anything Biden did. The capitalist greed that has companies raking in billions in profit while Americans suffer – that’s the real driver here. Under a socialist system, where energy production would be publicly owned, you wouldn’t have corporations rigging the game to hike up prices while padding their wallets.

As for Trump's low inflation rates, that's a bit of a cherry-pick. Inflation was low because the economy was on life support after a decade of wage stagnation. When people don’t have money to spend, prices don’t rise much – that's not economic health, that’s slow-motion collapse. Trump’s deregulation and tax cuts for the wealthy laid the groundwork for the inflation spike we see now by destabilizing financial markets and weakening labor protections.

---

Conclusion:

The reality is that Trump’s policies were designed to benefit the wealthy and corporations at the expense of the working class. His so-called “economic successes” were unsustainable, built on hollow tax cuts, deregulation, and an illusion of prosperity that collapsed during the pandemic.

 

[Mac-7]

You are unemployed and want a new job, under a Democratic president you have a better chance of getting one!​

The promise from dems is that you dont need a job to live comfortably

Let migrants do the work while government takes care of you

 

[TruthNotBS]

You are unemployed and want a new job, under a Democratic president you have a better chance of getting one!​

The promise from dems is that you dont need a job to live comfortably

Let migrants do the work while government takes care of you

That's what capitalists believe, not the Dems or Socialists (Actual, true leftists). Here look:

Rank	Parent	Subsidy Value	Number of Awards
1	Boeing	$15,496,865,703	958
2	Intel	$8,421,707,656	135
3	Ford Motor	$7,742,056,086	703
4	General Motors	$7,524,714,800	792
5	Micron Technology	$6,790,131,915	21
6	Amazon.com	$5,823,705,434	460
7	Alcoa	$5,727,691,764	134
8	Cheniere Energy	$5,617,152,523	43
9	Foxconn Technology Group (Hon Hai Precision Industry Company)	$4,820,110,112	74
10	Venture Global LNG	$4,338,702,441	8
11	Texas Instruments	$4,286,328,869	69
12	Volkswagen	$3,977,630,513	217
13	Sempra Energy	$3,828,022,782	51
14	NRG Energy	$3,415,751,518	266
15	NextEra Energy	$3,008,691,129	116
16	Sasol	$2,836,049,845	72
17	Tesla Inc.	$2,829,855,494	114
18	Stellantis	$2,795,436,436	213
19	Walt Disney	$2,543,219,673	265
20	Nucor	$2,538,761,123	176
21	Iberdrola	$2,380,558,984	110
22	Rivian Automotive Inc.	$2,364,054,012	7
23	Hyundai Motor	$2,349,743,470	18
24	Oracle	$2,272,418,288	96
25	Shell PLC	$2,211,676,001	132
26	Mubadala Investment Company	$2,124,035,097	62
27	Nike	$2,104,917,829	153
28	Meta Platforms Inc.	$2,098,261,272	82
29	Toyota	$2,071,010,689	239
30	Alphabet Inc.	$2,054,325,527	125
31	Brookfield Corporation	$1,979,408,388	288
32	Paramount Global	$1,974,249,897	342
33	Comcast	$1,927,402,844	405
34	Exxon Mobil	$1,917,119,478	241
35	Samsung Electronics	$1,891,136,597	41
36	Apple Inc.	$1,845,004,670	63
37	Nissan	$1,842,814,165	98
38	Berkshire Hathaway	$1,830,986,253	1,200
39	Summit Power	$1,783,593,414	6
40	JPMorgan Chase	$1,740,972,699	1,151
41	Energy Transfer	$1,736,836,843	175
42	Cleveland-Cliffs	$1,705,497,604	129
43	Southern Company	$1,694,958,172	45
44	General Electric	$1,645,135,367	958
45	Vornado Realty Trust	$1,623,857,336	33
46	Duke Energy	$1,580,421,869	86
47	Wolfspeed Inc.	$1,563,595,610	64
48	General Atomics	$1,510,875,891	112
49	IBM Corp.	$1,497,901,697	368
50	Lockheed Martin	$1,462,674,082	325
51	OGE Energy	$1,427,570,182	15
52	SCS Energy	$1,419,011,796	5
53	Corning Inc.	$1,391,603,359	401
54	Panasonic	$1,384,147,584	61
55	Microsoft	$1,366,243,159	113
56	Sagamore Development	$1,320,000,000	2
57	Northrop Grumman	$1,284,014,883	285
58	Vingroup	$1,254,000,000	1
59	Continental AG	$1,244,875,478	111
60	RTX Corporation	$1,193,950,954	797
61	CF Industries	$1,134,394,215	131
62	Valero Energy	$1,053,812,692	207
63	Dow Inc.	$1,049,354,213	640
64	AES Corp.	$1,039,510,135	136
65	Air Products & Chemicals	$1,025,557,482	88
66	Exelon	$986,892,877	98
67	Pyramid Companies	$973,565,278	93
68	SK Holdings	$960,550,283	8
69	SkyWest	$944,296,654	339
70	Centene	$916,607,054	60
71	Mazda Toyota Manufacturing, U.S.A., Inc.	$900,000,000	1
72	Apollo Global Management	$897,750,089	594
73	Delta Air Lines	$871,485,833	13
74	Jefferies Financial Group	$871,137,335	16
75	SK Hynix	$866,700,000	2
76	Bayer	$852,475,226	217
77	Honda	$849,832,301	93
78	Shin-Etsu Chemical	$828,683,936	106
79	Enterprise Products Partners	$826,988,371	89
80	SunEdison	$817,425,725	115
81	Goldman Sachs	$800,873,386	253
82	Bank of America	$798,426,128	956
83	E.ON	$786,865,473	40
84	Warner Bros. Discovery Inc.	$786,835,708	219
85	EDF-Electricite de France	$774,590,441	36
86	Triple Five Worldwide	$748,000,000	4
87	EDP-Energias de Portugal	$733,674,868	14
88	Related Companies	$714,675,504	8
89	Koch Industries	$683,066,388	510
90	Caithness Energy	$672,688,888	30
91	Dell Technologies	$658,417,951	185
92	Wells Fargo	$657,333,216	542
93	FedEx	$647,035,546	633
94	Entergy	$638,533,387	235
95	OCI N.V.	$627,879,406	5
96	Eli Lilly	$623,326,368	79
97	Chevron Phillips Chemical	$619,839,444	20
98	Bedrock Detroit	$618,000,000	1
99	Dominion Energy	$615,436,089	79

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[Mac-7]

That's what capitalists believe, not the Dems or Socialists (Actual, true leftists). Here look:

Rank	Parent	Subsidy Value	Number of Awards
1	Boeing	$15,496,865,703	958
2	Intel	$8,421,707,656	135
3	Ford Motor	$7,742,056,086	703
4	General Motors	$7,524,714,800	792
5	Micron Technology	$6,790,131,915	21
6	Amazon.com	$5,823,705,434	460
7	Alcoa	$5,727,691,764	134
8	Cheniere Energy	$5,617,152,523	43
9	Foxconn Technology Group (Hon Hai Precision Industry Company)	$4,820,110,112	74
10	Venture Global LNG	$4,338,702,441	8
11	Texas Instruments	$4,286,328,869	69
12	Volkswagen	$3,977,630,513	217
13	Sempra Energy	$3,828,022,782	51
14	NRG Energy	$3,415,751,518	266
15	NextEra Energy	$3,008,691,129	116
16	Sasol	$2,836,049,845	72
17	Tesla Inc.	$2,829,855,494	114
18	Stellantis	$2,795,436,436	213
19	Walt Disney	$2,543,219,673	265
20	Nucor	$2,538,761,123	176
21	Iberdrola	$2,380,558,984	110
22	Rivian Automotive Inc.	$2,364,054,012	7
23	Hyundai Motor	$2,349,743,470	18
24	Oracle	$2,272,418,288	96
25	Shell PLC	$2,211,676,001	132
26	Mubadala Investment Company	$2,124,035,097	62
27	Nike	$2,104,917,829	153
28	Meta Platforms Inc.	$2,098,261,272	82
29	Toyota	$2,071,010,689	239
30	Alphabet Inc.	$2,054,325,527	125
31	Brookfield Corporation	$1,979,408,388	288
32	Paramount Global	$1,974,249,897	342
33	Comcast	$1,927,402,844	405
34	Exxon Mobil	$1,917,119,478	241
35	Samsung Electronics	$1,891,136,597	41
36	Apple Inc.	$1,845,004,670	63
37	Nissan	$1,842,814,165	98
38	Berkshire Hathaway	$1,830,986,253	1,200
39	Summit Power	$1,783,593,414	6
40	JPMorgan Chase	$1,740,972,699	1,151
41	Energy Transfer	$1,736,836,843	175
42	Cleveland-Cliffs	$1,705,497,604	129
43	Southern Company	$1,694,958,172	45
44	General Electric	$1,645,135,367	958
45	Vornado Realty Trust	$1,623,857,336	33
46	Duke Energy	$1,580,421,869	86
47	Wolfspeed Inc.	$1,563,595,610	64
48	General Atomics	$1,510,875,891	112
49	IBM Corp.	$1,497,901,697	368
50	Lockheed Martin	$1,462,674,082	325
51	OGE Energy	$1,427,570,182	15
52	SCS Energy	$1,419,011,796	5
53	Corning Inc.	$1,391,603,359	401
54	Panasonic	$1,384,147,584	61
55	Microsoft	$1,366,243,159	113
56	Sagamore Development	$1,320,000,000	2
57	Northrop Grumman	$1,284,014,883	285
58	Vingroup	$1,254,000,000	1
59	Continental AG	$1,244,875,478	111
60	RTX Corporation	$1,193,950,954	797
61	CF Industries	$1,134,394,215	131
62	Valero Energy	$1,053,812,692	207
63	Dow Inc.	$1,049,354,213	640
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87	EDP-Energias de Portugal	$733,674,868	14
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90	Caithness Energy	$672,688,888	30
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93	FedEx	$647,035,546	633
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96	Eli Lilly	$623,326,368	79
97	Chevron Phillips Chemical	$619,839,444	20
98	Bedrock Detroit	$618,000,000	1
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Socialism for the rich.

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You’re telling us that government gave money to Mr Boeing to spend on anything he wants ?

Of course not

Your list is bullshit

 

[protectionist]

1. Tax Cuts:

You claim that tax cuts for the rich were a mere 2.6%, while the lower classes got 3-4%. First, let's clarify. Percentage tax cuts mean nothing without context. The top 1% saw their share of the tax benefits increase massively because, in real terms, they still make exponentially more and gain far more from those so-called "small" cuts. Meanwhile, the working class, with a marginally higher percentage cut, got pennies compared to the vast sums the wealthy saved.

And let’s be real here, who benefitted from Trump's tax cuts? The rich, overwhelmingly. The Tax Policy Center even reported that the wealthiest 20% of Americans received about 65% of the total benefit from those cuts, while the bottom 60% saw barely anything. This is typical of trickle-down economics – it doesn’t trickle down, it floods upwards.

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2. Healthcare:

You tout a bunch of Trump-era policies as major victories for healthcare, but this conveniently ignores the damage his administration did to millions of Americans. Yes, the Obamacare mandate penalty was removed, but let’s not forget why the mandate existed in the first place – to ensure there were enough healthy people in the pool to make insurance premiums affordable for everyone else. What happened after the mandate's removal? Premiums went up for those who kept insurance. And the rise of cheaper, short-term plans left many Americans with garbage insurance that didn’t cover essential services.

Sure, there were some generic drug approvals – that was not a Trump policy. That’s a process that would have occurred under any administration. As for the opioid epidemic, throwing money at it after allowing pharmaceutical companies to exploit the crisis for years isn't a solution. Real reform would involve targeting the root causes – economic inequality, lack of access to mental health care, and predatory pharmaceutical practices – which Trump's policies did little to address.

The "Right-to-Try" legislation was largely symbolic. The vast majority of patients still struggled with skyrocketing healthcare costs and insurance companies finding loopholes to deny them care. Trump's VA reforms were riddled with issues too, and let's not pretend that telehealth was some new invention under his administration. The VA has been underfunded and overstressed for years, long before Trump's tenure.

As for the COVID-19 response, it was nothing short of a disaster. The Trump administration downplayed the virus for months, leading to hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths. Those ventilators? They were essential, but Trump refused to use the Defense Production Act early enough to ramp up production, and that delay cost lives. And don’t even get me started on Hydroxychloroquine – an unproven treatment Trump irresponsibly pushed.

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3. Housing Costs:

You point to your personal experience with rent increases, but one anecdote doesn’t prove a broader economic reality. Rent increases and housing affordability issues have been ongoing for decades, across both Republican and Democratic administrations. Trump's tax cuts exacerbated this issue by funneling wealth upwards and encouraging speculation in real estate markets, which disproportionately hurt working-class renters. And sure, Biden hasn’t fixed it, but Trump did nothing to make housing more affordable. The primary driver of rent hikes is corporate landlords and real estate investment trusts (REITs), entities which thrive under the very capitalist framework Trump championed.

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4. Inflation and Gas Prices:

Blaming Biden for inflation is a complete oversimplification. Inflation was a global issue post-pandemic, triggered by disrupted supply chains, production bottlenecks, and rising demand after lockdowns. While U.S. policies play a role, this is an economic phenomenon far bigger than oil production in Alaska or the Gulf. In fact, U.S. oil production hit near-record highs in 2022.

Gas prices? Those have more to do with the manipulation of oil markets by OPEC and multinational corporations than anything Biden did. The capitalist greed that has companies raking in billions in profit while Americans suffer – that’s the real driver here. Under a socialist system, where energy production would be publicly owned, you wouldn’t have corporations rigging the game to hike up prices while padding their wallets.

As for Trump's low inflation rates, that's a bit of a cherry-pick. Inflation was low because the economy was on life support after a decade of wage stagnation. When people don’t have money to spend, prices don’t rise much – that's not economic health, that’s slow-motion collapse. Trump’s deregulation and tax cuts for the wealthy laid the groundwork for the inflation spike we see now by destabilizing financial markets and weakening labor protections.

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Conclusion:

The reality is that Trump’s policies were designed to benefit the wealthy and corporations at the expense of the working class. His so-called “economic successes” were unsustainable, built on hollow tax cuts, deregulation, and an illusion of prosperity that collapsed during the pandemic.

You just said the same thing I said. No point in reading your posts

 

[Luckyone]

You just said the same thing I said. No point in reading your posts

 

[jbrownson0831]

I bet you they deducted Trmps covid temporary losses thanks to some.states shutting down and then added all these "new.jobs" back to Bidens numbers when they returned back to work. Governments dont really create jobs, the private sector does.

Not in Dimtard land. They make it necessary to get three jobs to get by with their inflated economy, so all the jobs they "create" are part time ones.

 

[TruthNotBS]

You just said the same thing I said. No point in reading your posts

 

[TruthNotBS]

You’re telling us that government gave money to Mr Boeing to spend on anything he wants ?

Of course not

Your list is bullshit

Your response is ridiculous and underscores your hypocrisy. When the wealthy get billions from the govenrment, you'll bend over backwards to justify it, when the working-class gets any services or assistance from the govenrment, they're leeching parasites, a bunch of bums, who should just pick themselves up by their own bootstraps and take care of their own problems. Big business and its wealthy shareholders get plenty of help from Uncle Sam and local, state governments throughout our country, but when the average Joe, working-class American, gets some help, it's unacceptable. That's how you right-wing conservative Republicans think, and it's disgusting. You're a bunch of hypocrites.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Typo: You're = Your.

 

[Mashmont]

Bill Clinton stated this evening that since 1989, 51 million new jobs have been created and under the Democrats, of those 51, 49 million were created under Democratic presidents and only 2 million were created under Republican presidents.

Clinton said he had to check it 3 times but that it was confirmed.

Here is a link to one of the articles that confirms that information:

“Since 1989 and a new age of globalization began, 51 million jobs have been created in America. 49 million, 96%, have been created under Democratic presidents.”

This means that more Americans were working under Democratic rule than under Republican presidents. More people working means a better economy, better lives, and better life for all.

This is also something that is true and that has been confirmed 100%

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I really get sick of this ridiculous lie. Democrats have no idea how to create jobs. When they claim to, it's really just another round of government spending and giveaways to unions and other donors. Have you noticed every single thing that needs done, Democrats put forth a bill? Republicans presidents just do it without fanfare. Trump created thousands of jobs by removing regulations. Trump closed the border by building a wall and forcing adherence to our immigration laws.n Trump held inflation in check by his wise policies .

1, Unemployment:
Trump reduces regulation, solves the problem. Cost to taxpayers: $0
0bama passes a "Jobs Bill" Cost to taxpayers $447,000

2. Inflation;
Trump creates roaring economy, Freezes inflation. Cost to taxpayers: 0
Biden/Harris put out "Inflation Reduction Act" which doesn't work. Cost to taxpayers: $780 billion.

3. The Border:
Trump builds wall. Processes illegals on Mexico side of the border: Stops illegals cold: Cost to taxpayers $3 billion
Biden/Harris/Schumer pass Border Bill: Loaded with pork, won't work. Cost to Taxpayers: $118 billion.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

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Now post one that shows how much those categories pay in federal taxes.

 

[Mac-7]

Your response is ridiculous and underscores your hypocrisy. When the wealthy get billions from the govenrment, you'll bend over backwards to justify it, when the working-class gets any services or assistance from the govenrment, they're leeching parasites, a bunch of bums, who should just pick themselves up by their own bootstraps and take care of their own problems. Big business and its wealthy shareholders get plenty of help from Uncle Sam and local, state governments throughout our country, but when the average Joe, working-class American, gets some help, it's unacceptable. That's how you right-wing conservative Republicans think, and it's disgusting. You're a bunch of hypocrites.

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Corporations consist of thousands, even hundreds of thousands of people

Your idea of Mr Boeing raking in millions for his next vacation is laughable

 

[Luckyone]

I really get sick of this ridiculous lie. Democrats have no idea how to create jobs. When they claim to, it's really just another round of government spending and giveaways to unions and other donors. Have you noticed every single thing that needs done, Democrats put forth a bill? Republicans presidents just do it without fanfare. Trump created thousands of jobs by removing regulations. Trump closed the border by building a wall and forcing adherence to our immigration laws.n Trump held inflation in check by his wise policies .

1, Unemployment:
Trump reduces regulation, solves the problem. Cost to taxpayers: $0
0bama passes a "Jobs Bill" Cost to taxpayers $447,000

2. Inflation;
Trump creates roaring economy, Freezes inflation. Cost to taxpayers: 0
Biden/Harris put out "Inflation Reduction Act" which doesn't work. Cost to taxpayers: $780 billion.

3. The Border:
Trump builds wall. Processes illegals on Mexico side of the border: Stops illegals cold: Cost to taxpayers $3 billion
Biden/Harris/Schumer pass Border Bill: Loaded with pork, won't work. Cost to Taxpayers: $118 billion.

As always, data does not support your claims. This data goes back 50 year and covers 8 different presidents

 

[Mashmont]

As always, data does not support your claims. This data goes back 50 year and covers 8 different presidents

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Already debunked. You don't read the past posts in your own thread. Democrats create all the messes. They never fix anything. They don't know how.

 

[Luckyone]

Already debunked. It's who controls Congress that matters. You don't read the past posts in your own thread.

Well then the answer is simple. Congress has been more competent during the periods when the Presidents were Democrats.

 

[Mashmont]

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Never included in leftwing statistics is the amount each of these groups pay in taxes. Doesn't it make sense that those who pay BY FAR the most in taxes should get the biggest tax cuts?