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"Generally accepted belief" from 50 years ago ... now compare to what is "generally accepted belief" from 2 years ago ... see the difference? ...
It is a generally accepted belief now that the universe was created from nothing through a quantum tunneling event which did not violate the law of conservation.

It is a generally accepted belief now that the CMB is the radiation left over from the creation of the universe when matter and anti matter mutually annihilated each other.

It is a generally accepted belief now that the matter particles that were annihilated and the anti-matter particles that were annihilated were one billion times the amount of matter that was not annihilated.

So if you stop misstating what I say, there is no difference.
 
100% the universe was created from nothing. Apparently you aren't very up to date on your science.

Inflation Theory, the First Law of Thermodynamics and quantum mechanics tells us that it is possible for matter to have a beginning. In a closed universe the gravitational energy which is always negative exactly compensates the positive energy of matter. So the energy of a closed universe is always zero. So nothing prevents this universe from being spontaneously created. Because the net energy is always zero. The positive energy of matter is balanced by the negative energy of the gravity of that matter which is the space time curvature of that matter. There is no conservation law that prevents the formation of such a universe. In quantum mechanics if something is not forbidden by conservation laws, then it necessarily happens with some non-zero probability. So a closed universe can spontaneously appear - through the laws of quantum mechanics - out of nothing. And in fact there is an elegant mathematical description which describes this process and shows that a tiny closed universe having very high energy can spontaneously pop into existence and immediately start to expand and cool. In this description, the same laws that describe the evolution of the universe also describe the appearance of the universe which means that the laws were in place before the universe itself.

You still haven't provided an explanation for how the CMB came into existence, Boomer.

A singularity is something ... but please please please please ... show me the QM math that describes gravity ... with citations ...

I did explain CMB ... it's the radiation that existed when the universe became transparent and thus could be propagated ...
At this point I'm not even sure you know what a singularity is. Most people think it means something it's not.

No, you didn't explain how the CMB could come about if not from mutual annihilation. You did a lot of arm waving but you really didn't provide any details.

How about I provide the author of the equations and he can tell you for yourself how a universe from nothing can come about. Then you can go look up the papers yourself. Fair enough?


100% the universe was created from nothing. Apparently you aren't very up to date on your science.

Inflation Theory, the First Law of Thermodynamics and quantum mechanics tells us that it is possible for matter to have a beginning. In a closed universe the gravitational energy which is always negative exactly compensates the positive energy of matter. So the energy of a closed universe is always zero. So nothing prevents this universe from being spontaneously created. Because the net energy is always zero. The positive energy of matter is balanced by the negative energy of the gravity of that matter which is the space time curvature of that matter. There is no conservation law that prevents the formation of such a universe. In quantum mechanics if something is not forbidden by conservation laws, then it necessarily happens with some non-zero probability. So a closed universe can spontaneously appear - through the laws of quantum mechanics - out of nothing. And in fact there is an elegant mathematical description which describes this process and shows that a tiny closed universe having very high energy can spontaneously pop into existence and immediately start to expand and cool. In this description, the same laws that describe the evolution of the universe also describe the appearance of the universe which means that the laws were in place before the universe itself.

You still haven't provided an explanation for how the CMB came into existence, Boomer.

A singularity is something ... but please please please please ... show me the QM math that describes gravity ... with citations ...

I did explain CMB ... it's the radiation that existed when the universe became transparent and thus could be propagated ...
I'm curious about something. If you think the universe was created from existing matter, where did that matter come from? And how long did it exist before that? Because as time approaches infinity all objects will reach thermal equilibrium. So the only way a universe that is not in thermal equilibrium is to be created is spontaneously from nothing. You can't get around it.

Are you seriously getting your information from YouTube advertisements? ... are you going to buy that guy's book? ... details at the beginning of the video ... the ToE group produced this, website and Facebook group information at the end ... no citations ... no math ... just an ad ...

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My family has kept detailed records of who's related to who ... the small church requires marriage within the congregation, so this has kept "problems" to a minimum ... my mom outbred so that's not my excuse ...
 
100% the universe was created from nothing. Apparently you aren't very up to date on your science.

Inflation Theory, the First Law of Thermodynamics and quantum mechanics tells us that it is possible for matter to have a beginning. In a closed universe the gravitational energy which is always negative exactly compensates the positive energy of matter. So the energy of a closed universe is always zero. So nothing prevents this universe from being spontaneously created. Because the net energy is always zero. The positive energy of matter is balanced by the negative energy of the gravity of that matter which is the space time curvature of that matter. There is no conservation law that prevents the formation of such a universe. In quantum mechanics if something is not forbidden by conservation laws, then it necessarily happens with some non-zero probability. So a closed universe can spontaneously appear - through the laws of quantum mechanics - out of nothing. And in fact there is an elegant mathematical description which describes this process and shows that a tiny closed universe having very high energy can spontaneously pop into existence and immediately start to expand and cool. In this description, the same laws that describe the evolution of the universe also describe the appearance of the universe which means that the laws were in place before the universe itself.

You still haven't provided an explanation for how the CMB came into existence, Boomer.

A singularity is something ... but please please please please ... show me the QM math that describes gravity ... with citations ...

I did explain CMB ... it's the radiation that existed when the universe became transparent and thus could be propagated ...
At this point I'm not even sure you know what a singularity is. Most people think it means something it's not.

No, you didn't explain how the CMB could come about if not from mutual annihilation. You did a lot of arm waving but you really didn't provide any details.

How about I provide the author of the equations and he can tell you for yourself how a universe from nothing can come about. Then you can go look up the papers yourself. Fair enough?


100% the universe was created from nothing. Apparently you aren't very up to date on your science.

Inflation Theory, the First Law of Thermodynamics and quantum mechanics tells us that it is possible for matter to have a beginning. In a closed universe the gravitational energy which is always negative exactly compensates the positive energy of matter. So the energy of a closed universe is always zero. So nothing prevents this universe from being spontaneously created. Because the net energy is always zero. The positive energy of matter is balanced by the negative energy of the gravity of that matter which is the space time curvature of that matter. There is no conservation law that prevents the formation of such a universe. In quantum mechanics if something is not forbidden by conservation laws, then it necessarily happens with some non-zero probability. So a closed universe can spontaneously appear - through the laws of quantum mechanics - out of nothing. And in fact there is an elegant mathematical description which describes this process and shows that a tiny closed universe having very high energy can spontaneously pop into existence and immediately start to expand and cool. In this description, the same laws that describe the evolution of the universe also describe the appearance of the universe which means that the laws were in place before the universe itself.

You still haven't provided an explanation for how the CMB came into existence, Boomer.

A singularity is something ... but please please please please ... show me the QM math that describes gravity ... with citations ...

I did explain CMB ... it's the radiation that existed when the universe became transparent and thus could be propagated ...
I'm curious about something. If you think the universe was created from existing matter, where did that matter come from? And how long did it exist before that? Because as time approaches infinity all objects will reach thermal equilibrium. So the only way a universe that is not in thermal equilibrium is to be created is spontaneously from nothing. You can't get around it.

Are you seriously getting your information from YouTube advertisements? ... are you going to buy that guy's book? ... details at the beginning of the video ... the ToE group produced this, website and Facebook group information at the end ... no citations ... no math ... just an ad ...

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My family has kept detailed records of who's related to who ... the small church requires marriage within the congregation, so this has kept "problems" to a minimum ... my mom outbred so that's not my excuse ...

If that's what you want to call it, sure. If you are serious, I'm sure you can find his papers. But something tells me you aren't serious.
 

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