Yet another school shooting

[JoeB131]

Banning guns stops nothing. You aren't paying attention to those countries. They still have shootings. Banning drugs works just as well.

Drug bans don't work because drug abusers are really only harming themselves.

Gun bans work just fine in the rest of the world because no one wants to live next to a crazy person with a gun who is going to shoot you because your dog crapped on his lawn.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Banning guns stops nothing. You aren't paying attention to those countries. They still have shootings. Banning drugs works just as well.

Drug bans don't work because drug abusers are really only harming themselves.

Gun bans work just fine in the rest of the world because no one wants to live next to a crazy person with a gun who is going to shoot you because your dog crapped on his lawn.

In JoeB's fantasy world, sure.

In real life, all guns could be banned, and illegal Mexicans with illegal automatic firearms could home invade JoeB, and there's not a thing he could do about it. Him not having a gun and all.

Dial 911, dipshit.

 

[DrLove]

Just heads up on that CCHR: they are a scientology front group. Scientology has a white-hot hatred of psychologists and psychiatry because they insulted LRH.
That being said, yes psychiatric drugs are abused in some cases and could contribute to shootings. But mostly such drugs make you without emotion.

Good to know - thanks .. worthy of factoring in.

 

[OldLady]

The NRA policy is ireelevant since it has neither the ability nor the authority to pass and uphold any laws whatsoever

The NRA has the ability, and uses it to bribe members of Congress - who put their job before the lives of children. It is really that simple.

If a member of Congress were to seek sane gun controls, s/he would find an opponent funded by the NRA going against them at the next primary election, and if a member of Congress, or someone seeking a seat, stands for the 2nd A. "shall not infringe", s/he is sure to be well funded again by the NRA.

You keep attacking the NRA...the NRA supports the FIX NICS act....the democrats oppose it.

The NRA trains local, state and federal law enforcement...the democrats constantly attack law enforcement and prevent them from arresting violent gun criminals.

You keep attacking the NRA...the NRA supports armed security and armed staff in the schools, the democrats oppose it.

The NRA teaches gun safety to millions of children...the democrats fight teaching gun safety to kids.

The NRA supports keeping violent gun offenders in prison, the democrats let violent gun offenders out of jail and pass laws letting them out early.

The NRA doesn't support the PROMISE PROGRAM, of obama, which allowed the shooter to get the gun...the democrats created and support the Promise program...which allowed the shooter to get his gun...

Since those are the facts, the truth and the reality.....

Of the two groups...the democrats are the ones supporting violent murder, not the NRA...

****** Rightie'

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Arm staff, ban liberals.

That shouldn't make me laugh, but damn it Lucy, that's funny.

 

[OldLady]

And "Crooked Hillary" is wrong how exactly?

We fail to act when we fail to end democrat created gun free school zones. We need to allow armed and trained school staff...that would take these targets away from mass shooters....yet, democrats need dead children, they are their best propaganda tool for gun confiscation, so there is no way they are going to actually stop school shootings, they get too much power from the sacrifice of our children.

.yet, democrats need dead children, they are their best propaganda tool for gun confiscation, so there is no way they are going to actually stop school shootings, they get too much power from the sacrifice of our children.
That is sickening, and when you make statements like that, it is very easy to dismiss every other thing you say. I'd ease down on that Alt-Right propaganda talk a bit, if I were you.

What he posted is an example of the fund-raising message sent out by the NRA after such shootings to make more $$$$$.

That's a lie, right?

NOPE

LINK?

 

[DrLove]

They DO NOT WANT to fix the problem. they ONLY want to push their agenda. You know, I know AND THEY KNOW that the proposals they make won't stop one single mass shooting. They DO NOT CARE, they only want to deny the rights of others.

Specifically which rights will you be denied if we tighten up background checks, require 21 years of age and a 3 day waiting period?

 

[OldLady]

Santa Fe High School shooting: Suspect in custody, assistant principal says - CNN

Details still breaking.

When will this end?

Same time we stop hearing report after report of parents abusing and killing their kids,idiots leaving babies In hot cars to die while they party,gamble,OD,take a nap, morons torturing animals for fun,gang violence , violence against the elderly,violence against the police etc.

Violence over all is an everyday thing. Society in general doesn't value life anymore let alone know what compassion is and you expect violence to end just because? Look at the teachers we let teach our children.

This new shooter was allegedly bullied by the school coaches.

We have college professors teaching students to beat protesters and set fire to buildings with liberal approval after all.

I have a feeling people are jumping ahead here. If he was bullied by the school coaches, why did he shoot the art teacher?

 

[DrLove]

Let me REPEAT for the BasicHumanRetard.
Are you bucking for a 2nd Civil War?

Well Dr. DumbAss......
Are YOU ???

Nope - and neither are you. If Trump is impeached, you will be a good boy and LIKE it.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Santa Fe High School shooting: Suspect in custody, assistant principal says - CNN

Details still breaking.

When will this end?

Same time we stop hearing report after report of parents abusing and killing their kids,idiots leaving babies In hot cars to die while they party,gamble,OD,take a nap, morons torturing animals for fun,gang violence , violence against the elderly,violence against the police etc.

Violence over all is an everyday thing. Society in general doesn't value life anymore let alone know what compassion is and you expect violence to end just because? Look at the teachers we let teach our children.

This new shooter was allegedly bullied by the school coaches.

We have college professors teaching students to beat protesters and set fire to buildings with liberal approval after all.

I have a feeling people are jumping ahead here. If he was bullied by the school coaches, why did he shoot the art teacher?

I would have liked to shoot my art teacher, she was a real kunt with foul coffee breath.

I spent half the quarter in the dean's office, being office boy, rather than deal with her.

Perspective, I get it, she was a *****.

 

[DrLove]

No...no....now is never the time to talk about gun violence....just give your thoughts and prayers....that will always be the Repub cure....

 

[DrLove]

We fail to act when we fail to end democrat created gun free school zones. We need to allow armed and trained school staff...that would take these targets away from mass shooters....yet, democrats need dead children, they are their best propaganda tool for gun confiscation, so there is no way they are going to actually stop school shootings, they get too much power from the sacrifice of our children.

.yet, democrats need dead children, they are their best propaganda tool for gun confiscation, so there is no way they are going to actually stop school shootings, they get too much power from the sacrifice of our children.
That is sickening, and when you make statements like that, it is very easy to dismiss every other thing you say. I'd ease down on that Alt-Right propaganda talk a bit, if I were you.

What he posted is an example of the fund-raising message sent out by the NRA after such shootings to make more $$$$$.

That's a lie, right?

NOPE

LINK?

Sorry - some of the conversation is lost here - Link for what?

 

[beagle9]

Schools need to become volunteer for the parents and their children after 6th grade. No child in the 7th grade should be required to go to a public school if that child doesn't want to. His or her parents should take total responsibility for their childrens continued education, and if a child of 13 doesn't want to attend a public school after that age, then it should be honored as such.

Alternative's should be offered after 6th grade, and a choosing should go on next by the parents, and by the child in order to continue the educational process at the place of the parents and child's choosing. If attendance drops dramatically at the public school, then the school should be closed or downsized.

Maybe government should only be involved very lightly in supporting elementary schools only, and after that the parents would be given a list of schools to choose from by the private sector, in which would best suit the child's educational needs, personality and etc.

Forcing children into these hell holes against their will, to then be brainwashed due to these institutions being highjacked over the years is now proving to be a deadly disaster these days.

They have programs like that from pre-K and up! It is called private school and home schooling. I am surprised you haven't heard of it before!

Yes you are right, but due to liberalism, the operators of those schools are working to keep liberalism or leftist regression away, so they set tuition fees at a level that deters many of their own ideology to be accepted in. How stupid has this been over time ?? It surely has depleted their numbers, and has forced their own ideological wanta be's from joining forces with them because of money.

The not providing a life raft to those who are your allies to come on board the ship, leaves your ship at odds with the many ships who have given the life raft to those that you have rejected. Now who has been winning the war based on the strategy ? Not the conservatives.

Now with this said, it is known that due to the politically correct environment created by the left (allowing any and everything today), is that those with Christian ideological values and cultures have to be wise in their unwritten policies in which attempt to divide the wheat from what might be considered as the tares in these latter days. Is it working ? Not really, because the job is to win over your allies, and not to isolate or leave behind your potential brothers and sisters.

The reason that the harvest is not yet fulfilled in accordance to the word, is in that the door shall remain open until it is finished.

There is still work to be done, and it should be done in a way that recognizes ones ideological values, culture, and character in which promotes good in the world.

This idea that those who become anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-America, anti-American culture, anti-constitutional, and just anti-anything should be accepted in every situation is ridiculous. The government forcing such idiocy upon this country in mindset has been a tragic thing resulting in the violence that we are now seeing today I'm afraid.

 

[dudmuck]

"Every day that we fail to act on gun violence, we are failing our children. This should be a day for soul searching across America - and that soul searching should be matched with legislating to begin dealing with this national shame." - Crooked Hillary

And "Crooked Hillary" is wrong how exactly?

We fail to act when we fail to end democrat created gun free school zones. We need to allow armed and trained school staff...that would take these targets away from mass shooters....yet, democrats need dead children, they are their best propaganda tool for gun confiscation, so there is no way they are going to actually stop school shootings, they get too much power from the sacrifice of our children.

Oh please Please PLEEEEEASE repost your NRA talking points.

Now is the appropriate time - We just don't get enough!

No...no....now is never the time to talk about gun violence....just give your thoughts and prayers....that will always be the Repub cure....

 

[Skull Pilot]

And how well does a guy carrying a ******* shotgun blend in anywhere?

I am happier than ever that I don't have kids knowing that idiots like you are running the show at public schools

He carried it under his black trench coat in 90 degree weather.

Dustin Severin, a 17-year-old student, told NBC affiliate KPRC that he saw Pagourtzis in the hallway shortly before the bullets started flying — and that he was wearing his usual outfit. "He wears a trenchcoat every day, and it's like 90 degrees out here," Severin said.​

You are failing BIGLY today Skull - DERP ;-)

Gee a trench coat nothing suspicious there

 

[Skull Pilot]

When we get rid of democrat gun free zones, allow armed staff at schools and actually take these shooters seriously, it is already coming out he gave off the traditional warning signs....

Those who put their 2nd A. right before the lives of others are loathsome, hateful, reprehensible and heinous.

And those who put their irrational hate of gun owners before protecting children are vile assholes.....we need to end democrat gun free zones which draw these shooters...we need to arm and train school staff so that these schools are no longer targets...but as long as anti gunners like you need dead children to fool uninformed Americans into giving you power, you will never protect these children.....you need dead children, they are your golden ticket for gun confiscation.

I don't hate you, clearly you are mentally ill. Being so obsessed with guns is not normal and not something all gun owners advertise. As I've written before and will continue to state, the NRA policy on gun control enables mass murder by firearms. That makes it and its supporters culpable for the murders today, the past and in the future.

The NRA policy is ireelevant since it has neither the ability nor the authority to pass and uphold any laws whatsoever

The NRA has the ability, and uses it to bribe members of Congress - who put their job before the lives of children. It is really that simple.

If a member of Congress were to seek sane gun controls, s/he would find an opponent funded by the NRA going against them at the next primary election, and if a member of Congress, or someone seeking a seat, stands for the 2nd A. "shall not infringe", s/he is sure to be well funded again by the NRA.

Got any proof of these alleged bribes?

 

[beagle9]

Schools should be like college campuses, where there is always a kind of freedom feeling to the campus goers/students, and not a feeling of being in a prison or a hell while there. Then you add in the bullying, and the place really bcomes a hell.

These campuses should have great architectural landscaping done, great looking buildings, modern furnishings etc.

They should have points of entry where all students pass through the metal detectors whether coming and/or going. Border fencing with camera monitoring systems. Security gaurds for any kind of possible trouble that might arrise.

Bring on a name brand kiosk like McDonald's, Burger King or whatever is negotiated.

Change the culture, have zero tolerance policies for bullying and harassment of any kind.

Secure the schools starting yesterday already, and get rid of the troubled kid's immediately. Let the parents figure it out from there.

Metal detectors are useless in a school environment except to cause massive delays in getting kids to class.
Border fencing traps students into limited escape routes. One of my recent schools had a major problem because neighboring properties fenced the school off so they was only one direction of escape.

Many schools have school resource officers and/or security guards. That doesn't stop anyone, If they get involved in a physical altercation with a student, they are often fired or sued by helicopter parents.

Your foolproof plan has a few holes in it.

Why not just arm teachers?

Well any plan is better than no plan at all or the ignoring of plans as it has been the case so far in many respects. My plans are good, even if need to be debated heavily. It's the way problems are solved, but kicking the can down the road is definitely not a plan at all.

I'm for arming teachers, but the right teachers. I would rather arm their minds than their bodies with weapons in order to teach our kids. Debate.

 

[beagle9]

Armed police officers are needed for every school.

Only way to prevent future tragedies.

Alot more than just armed officers, but yes I agree or maybe we should just transfer the crazies to another institution before they crack ?? Yeah that should do the trick.

Barney Fife always said "Nip it Andy, nip it in the bud".. lol

Who decides if they are crazy? What standard will we use?

This is the problem, where as we actually have to ask ourselves now "who are the crazies" ??

 

[beagle9]

Parents consistently refuse to take responsibility for their own kids. Read the gun nuts here. They say they give their children guns. They actually admit to giving guns to children.

Its long past time to charge the parent(s) of underage shooters. If your kid murders someone, YOU should be held legally responsible.

Throw the gun nuts in jail.

Think that would get their attention?

Hey luddly ... I will give my kids any ******* thing I want to... The First Firearm I gave my son was a Remington Model 870 Express Turkey 12ga 21"... I am not going to tell you how old he was because I am afraid you would pee your panties... When I came to Hawaii, I gave him my Bond Snake Slayer .45 Colt / .410... and a Mossberg Cruiser Pistol Grip 6-shot 12Ga 18.5” breacher barrel... He is 38 years old now and has a fine collection of Firearms...

Where did I say you should not or could not bury your children in guns?

Never even suggested such a thing.

I'll repeat what I wrote. Please stop your hysterics and actually READ it -

Parents who give their children the guns they use to murder should be held legally responsible for the actions of their kids.

Question for Ridgerunner and any other nutters who want to answer.

Do you believe parents should not be held responsible for the actions of their under age kids?

Second question - If not the parents, then WHO?

The vast majority of murders are purposefully carried out by underage gang members. Send their parents to jail, then their homelands.

How will you do that when so many should have been named "Target" because every male in the neighborhood had a shot at being the Daddy?

Regardless, the parent still had some raising to do. Now where it all goes wrong is where the investigation begins.

 

[Pop23]

There was a suicide at my school. The guy stabbed himself in class.

Nice try to bash firearms, but go **** yourself, leftist douche ******.

They had several psychologists come in for about a month for the traumatized students.

I realize that you have poor reading comprehension skills, but what did any of that have to do with what I said?

1000 to 1500 more suicides each year is far greater than all the school mass shootings combined Joe

Which has nothing to do with anything. News flash. Depressed people sometimes off themselves. Also this just in, Water is Wet.

Are you being intentionally stupid?

That’s 1000 to 1500 ADDITIONAL TEEN SUICIDE DIPSHIT.

If I have to spell such an easy concept, then I guess I will

It means they DON’T kill themselfs if NOT on the drug.

That is more, EACH YEAR than ALL MASS SCHOOL SHOOTINGS COMBINED.

 

[Pop23]

Just heads up on that CCHR: they are a scientology front group. Scientology has a white-hot hatred of psychologists and psychiatry because they insulted LRH.
That being said, yes psychiatric drugs are abused in some cases and could contribute to shootings. But mostly such drugs make you without emotion.

Good to know - thanks .. worthy of factoring in.

They did indeed report on studies.

My links however are not from that source. Mine are done by sources such as Oxford University.
University of Oxford - Wikipedia

And if you want to try to make Oxford, Huffington Post, the WHO, the FDA, Michael Moore and the rest, out to be Scientists, you’ll look the fool.