YES, America CERTAINLY WAS FOUNDED as a CHRISTIAN NATION...

[JimBowie1958]

Is this some of the christian nation kind of stuff being referred to earlier?

What the hell do you think?

ROFLMAO

What do I think? I think that you haven't given an answer yet....

There have been plenty of answers, doofus, but you ignore them and troll as though you were an honest person asking questions.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Hypocrisy is awesome.

How in the **** am *I* being a hypocrit?

You dont know what my beliefs are, and you dont know much else apparently.

And yet you feel comfortable asserting that I am some kind of hypocrit?

You do not know ho wto thinkn critically.

You ape other people mor eintelligent than you are, and think that if you pretend to be as smart as they are and act like them, that maybe people might think you are smart as well.

But you cant put together a single lucid thought that is not anything more than ad hominem or naked unsupported claims.

Again, go **** yourself.

Ironic post is ironic. By the way, it's spelled "hypocrite."

Wow, already you are reduced to playing the grammar teacher, lol.

So why are you carrying water for Christianity if you aren't one?

Why do you think I am not Christian?

Why do you think a Christian cannot use the word '****' but the word 'intercourse' is just fine and dandy?

You are a fake.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Hypocrisy is awesome.

How in the **** am *I* being a hypocrit?

You dont know what my beliefs are, and you dont know much else apparently.

And yet you feel comfortable asserting that I am some kind of hypocrit?

You do not know how to think critically.

You ape other people more intelligent than you are, and think that if you pretend to be as smart as they are and act like them, that maybe people might think you are smart as well.

But you cant put together a single lucid thought that is not anything more than ad hominem or naked unsupported claims.

Again, go **** yourself.

Just to clarify...is this MORE of that christianity this country is allegedly founded on?

More pretentious fraudulent hypocrisy from Bodecea.

Who on Earth would really think that my post was anything related to a founding document?

I guess you tried to do it for the humor or something, but your statement shows so much ignorance and dumbassedness that it simply defies categorization.

 

[bodecea]

What the hell do you think?

ROFLMAO

What do I think? I think that you haven't given an answer yet....

There have been plenty of answers, doofus, but you ignore them and troll as though you were an honest person asking questions.

So...either you will not give an answer because you are ashamed of your behavior....or you can't give an answer, because you honestly don't know why you speak the way you do.....do you have Tourettes?

 

[bodecea]

How in the **** am *I* being a hypocrit?

You dont know what my beliefs are, and you dont know much else apparently.

And yet you feel comfortable asserting that I am some kind of hypocrit?

You do not know how to think critically.

You ape other people more intelligent than you are, and think that if you pretend to be as smart as they are and act like them, that maybe people might think you are smart as well.

But you cant put together a single lucid thought that is not anything more than ad hominem or naked unsupported claims.

Again, go **** yourself.

Just to clarify...is this MORE of that christianity this country is allegedly founded on?

More pretentious fraudulent hypocrisy from Bodecea.

Who on Earth would really think that my post was anything related to a founding document?

I guess you tried to do it for the humor or something, but your statement shows so much ignorance and dumbassedness that it simply defies categorization.

Tourettes it is.

 

[logical4u]

Where is GOD mentioned....we are back to that. And if you can find the word GOD in the Constitution, then maybe you can question my intelligence. Other than that, you are just blowing smoke.

God is referenced with the AD date reference, not to meantion EVERY SINGLE STATE explixitly references God in their constitutions, and the current Constitution did not because it was a constitution replacing an earlier one which did and is currently part of the US legal code as a founding document along with the DoI and NW Ordinances.

Cant wrap your brain around that simple little fact or what?

Where is the word "God" in AD?

And those state constitutions....are they pre-or post Constitution? Are the "god" references still there?

You are trying so hard to connect dots to something that doesn't exist...a direct reference to the christian god in the Constitution.

Did you think that maybe they did that.....on purpose?

And you are trying very hard to be rude to the Lord. We get it, you don't love the Lord, which means that you do not love yourself, which means that you love no one. We don't need a direct reference to the Lord. We know that most if not every single one of the FF bowed their heads to God the Father, His Son the Savior, Christ and prayed for them to be bless by them and the Holy Spirit to make a great nation and to serve the Lord (all three of those mentioned). You and hoooollerie are the ones asking for proof, and changing the goal posts. Our proof is in this great nation, and the blessings the Lord gives us every single day: '
we have food on our table
we have rooves over our heads
our families are relatively "safe"
we don't have to wall our property from marauders
we have energy so we do not have to have slaves
we have energy so our water is delivered to our taps 'clean' and drinkable
we have energy so our wastes are not running down our streets or into our water supplies
we have a country with a military that protects us
we have a better standard of living than most people in the entire world
even our poor live better than most "middle class" people in countries of the world that do not have a Christian influence.
etc, etc, etc.

Just for giggles, I will add:
many of us bow our heads to the Lord and pray for this country still. We pray for people like you and hollarie to find the Lord, and to be blessed by Him. We pray that our leaders will be strong enough to do the "Lord's will", and to serve well. It is a traddition that has been in this country since the earliest settlers came here. It is a traddition that will hopefully last as long as this is a nation. We do not need proof of the Lord rubbed in our faces. We can look around and see His blessings, everywhere.

 

[bodecea]

I wonder if the Founding Fathers had JimBowie in mind when they thought of christians in our country.

 

[logical4u]

Wait a minute...the First Amendment says no state religion, but your "there shall be no gods before the lord" is a direct contradiction....

You've just proved our point for us.....thank you.

Murder? Are you saying murder being illegal is ONLY a christian tenet?

Covet? That's not illegal, you know.

Bear false witness? Only if you are sworn in a court of law....and you don't (GASP!) even have to swear on a bible.

Where in the 10th amendment is there anything about gods at all?

I'm sorry, but you must be looking at some other country's Bill of Rights.

You can lead a jackass to water.....

Well, if you want to stand there thirsty, that's all on you, isn't it?

I wasn't the one asking to be led.

 

[Crackerjack]

Wow, already you are reduced to playing the grammar teacher, lol.

You see, people who cannot express themselves are not usually worth listening to. At least you cleaned up this post before you hit "Submit Reply."

Why do you think I am not Christian?

Jesus said that you shall be known by your fruits, did He not?

So, are you or are you not a Christian?

Why do you think a Christian cannot use the word '****' but the word 'intercourse' is just fine and dandy?

You seriously think it's not a sin to use profanity? You should learn something about Christianity.

You are a fake.

A fake what?

 

[bodecea]

God is referenced with the AD date reference, not to meantion EVERY SINGLE STATE explixitly references God in their constitutions, and the current Constitution did not because it was a constitution replacing an earlier one which did and is currently part of the US legal code as a founding document along with the DoI and NW Ordinances.

Cant wrap your brain around that simple little fact or what?

Where is the word "God" in AD?

And those state constitutions....are they pre-or post Constitution? Are the "god" references still there?

You are trying so hard to connect dots to something that doesn't exist...a direct reference to the christian god in the Constitution.

Did you think that maybe they did that.....on purpose?

And you are trying very hard to be rude to the Lord. We get it, you don't love the Lord, which means that you do not love yourself, which means that you love no one. We don't need a direct reference to the Lord. We know that most if not every single one of the FF bowed their heads to God the Father, His Son the Savior, Christ and prayed for them to be bless by them and the Holy Spirit to make a great nation and to serve the Lord (all three of those mentioned). You and hoooollerie are the ones asking for proof, and changing the goal posts. Our proof is in this great nation, and the blessings the Lord gives us every single day: '
we have food on our table
we have rooves over our heads
our families are relatively "safe"
we don't have to wall our property from marauders
we have energy so we do not have to have slaves
we have energy so our water is delivered to our taps 'clean' and drinkable
we have energy so our wastes are not running down our streets or into our water supplies
we have a country with a military that protects us
we have a better standard of living than most people in the entire world
even our poor live better than most "middle class" people in countries of the world that do not have a Christian influence.
etc, etc, etc.

Just for giggles, I will add:
many of us bow our heads to the Lord and pray for this country still. We pray for people like you and hollarie to find the Lord, and to be blessed by Him. We pray that our leaders will be strong enough to do the "Lord's will", and to serve well. It is a traddition that has been in this country since the earliest settlers came here. It is a traddition that will hopefully last as long as this is a nation. We do not need proof of the Lord rubbed in our faces. We can look around and see His blessings, everywhere.

Where is the word "God" in the Constitution?

And by my NOT seeing a word that doesn't exist in the Constitution is somehow rude? To whom? Some entity that you believe in and I don't....nor am I required to.

Maybe, if you want to see "rude", read JimBowie's posts.....

Oh, one more thing...nice that you bow your head....I do too...I too pray for this country and our military (I was in for 21 years myself) and our leaders....I just don't pray to the same entity you do. And I'm not aware of any rudeness in NOT capitalizing my gods/goddess' names....other than the standard proper noun type of stuff.

 

[bodecea]

You can lead a jackass to water.....

Well, if you want to stand there thirsty, that's all on you, isn't it?

I wasn't the one asking to be led.

You are fooling yourself if you think that.

 

[logical4u]

Speaking of Islam always being a part of American history:

In March 1785, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). Upon inquiring "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:

"It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once." [18]

Yep, pretty much seems like history hasn't changed in 230 years.

Ah...have you read the Treaty of Tripoli?


Treaty of Tripoli - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Muslim] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

"The Christian religion", please tell us which one is that? It was a dodge (something you should be really familiar with), not to get bogged down in religion.

 

[bodecea]

Speaking of Islam always being a part of American history:

In March 1785, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). Upon inquiring "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:

"It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once." [18]

Yep, pretty much seems like history hasn't changed in 230 years.

Ah...have you read the Treaty of Tripoli?


Treaty of Tripoli - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Muslim] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

"The Christian religion", please tell us which one is that? It was a dodge (something you should be really familiar with), not to get bogged down in religion.

This is fascinating....you make something out of the Constitution that is not even in it at all....and yet, when a legal American document has the word "Christian" in it, you pretend it means nothing.

Again, your continued thirst is not my responsibility...I see definite signs of brain washing on your part.

 

[logical4u]

I wonder if the Founding Fathers had JimBowie in mind when they thought of christians in our country.

Do you think those FF that fought in the Revolution were "peaceful" Christians in battle?

 

[JimBowie1958]

I wonder if the Founding Fathers had JimBowie in mind when they thought of christians in our country.

Yeah, they were psychic, dumbshit, and could see into the future, lol.

I know they sure didnt have jack asses like YOU in mind or else they would have remained in the British Empire rather than cause such an ill fate on mankind.

 

[JimBowie1958]

I wonder if the Founding Fathers had JimBowie in mind when they thought of christians in our country.

Do you think those FF that fought in the Revolution were "peaceful" Christians in battle?

No, she doesnt think.

She just apes real people in discussion so she can troll.

 

[logical4u]

Where is the word "God" in AD?

And those state constitutions....are they pre-or post Constitution? Are the "god" references still there?

You are trying so hard to connect dots to something that doesn't exist...a direct reference to the christian god in the Constitution.

Did you think that maybe they did that.....on purpose?

And you are trying very hard to be rude to the Lord. We get it, you don't love the Lord, which means that you do not love yourself, which means that you love no one. We don't need a direct reference to the Lord. We know that most if not every single one of the FF bowed their heads to God the Father, His Son the Savior, Christ and prayed for them to be bless by them and the Holy Spirit to make a great nation and to serve the Lord (all three of those mentioned). You and hoooollerie are the ones asking for proof, and changing the goal posts. Our proof is in this great nation, and the blessings the Lord gives us every single day: '
we have food on our table
we have rooves over our heads
our families are relatively "safe"
we don't have to wall our property from marauders
we have energy so we do not have to have slaves
we have energy so our water is delivered to our taps 'clean' and drinkable
we have energy so our wastes are not running down our streets or into our water supplies
we have a country with a military that protects us
we have a better standard of living than most people in the entire world
even our poor live better than most "middle class" people in countries of the world that do not have a Christian influence.
etc, etc, etc.

Just for giggles, I will add:
many of us bow our heads to the Lord and pray for this country still. We pray for people like you and hollarie to find the Lord, and to be blessed by Him. We pray that our leaders will be strong enough to do the "Lord's will", and to serve well. It is a traddition that has been in this country since the earliest settlers came here. It is a traddition that will hopefully last as long as this is a nation. We do not need proof of the Lord rubbed in our faces. We can look around and see His blessings, everywhere.

Where is the word "God" in the Constitution?

And by my NOT seeing a word that doesn't exist in the Constitution is somehow rude? To whom? Some entity that you believe in and I don't....nor am I required to.

Maybe, if you want to see "rude", read JimBowie's posts.....

Oh, one more thing...nice that you bow your head....I do too...I too pray for this country and our military (I was in for 21 years myself) and our leaders....I just don't pray to the same entity you do. And I'm not aware of any rudeness in NOT capitalizing my gods/goddess' names....other than the standard proper noun type of stuff.

First you wanted "a single reference" to God. It was given to you. You cried, you denied, you pouted. Now you want a specific word that you know is not there. Little girl, your tantrum is over, go to bed, this discussion is over, and you did not make your point.

 

[JimBowie1958]

This is fascinating....you make something out of the Constitution that is not even in it at all....and yet, when a legal American document has the word "Christian" in it, you pretend it means nothing.

He never said it meant nothing, but it obviously does not mean what you pretend it does.

 

[bodecea]

I wonder if the Founding Fathers had JimBowie in mind when they thought of christians in our country.

Do you think those FF that fought in the Revolution were "peaceful" Christians in battle?

Who said anything about "peaceful"? Oh, that's right, you did. Is JimBowie being violent? Is he in battle? Because that's the comparison you just made.

 

[bodecea]

I wonder if the Founding Fathers had JimBowie in mind when they thought of christians in our country.

Yeah, they were psychic, dumbshit, and could see into the future, lol.

I know they sure didnt have jack asses like YOU in mind or else they would have remained in the British Empire rather than cause such an ill fate on mankind.

Onward christian JimBowie....marching as to.......what, exactly?