WSJ article: Trump has a shocking lack of understanding of North Korea

[Billy000]

Trump on North Korea: "After listening for 10 minutes, I realized it’s not so easy"

Trump assumed China could fix the North Korea problem easily but simply hadn't done it yet.

President Donald Trump recounted an absolutely astounding detail about one of his conversations with Chinese President Xi Jinping in comments published by the Wall Street Journal on Wednesday afternoon. Apparently, Trump came into his first meeting with the Chinese leader, in early April, convinced that China could simply eliminate the threat posed by North Korea’s nuclear program. Xi then patiently explained Chinese-Korean history to Trump — who then promptly changed his mind.

“After listening for 10 minutes, I realized it’s not so easy,” the president told the Journal. “I felt pretty strongly that they had a tremendous power [over] North Korea. ... But it’s not what you would think.”

Four quick observations about this:

1. Trump thought China could fix North Korea until the Chinese president politely informed him that North Korea is in fact complicated.
2. Trump seems to have required the leader of China to explain basic facts to him that he could have Googled, or at least asked one of the many US government North Korea experts about.
3. Trump came to a profound realization about one of the most dangerous conflicts on earth after a 10-minute conversation.
4. Trump is getting his information about East Asian affairs from the leader of America’s largest rival in the region."

 

[tyroneweaver]

Billy is now the expert in foreign affairs....just ask him.

 

[OKTexas]

Yeah, every president goes through a learning period, with Trump it's very complicated foreign relations. With your dear leader, it was his inability to recognize a truly shovel ready job. Of course maobama also proved himself totally inept on foreign relations too.

 

[Billy000]

Yeah, every president goes through a learning period, with Trump it's very complicated foreign relations. With your dear leader, it was his inability to recognize a truly shovel ready job.

So you're suggesting ANY other candidate of the 2016 race wouldn't have assumed something as retarded as China being able to easily shut down NK's nuclear program?

 

[toomuchtime_]

Trump on North Korea: "After listening for 10 minutes, I realized it’s not so easy"

Trump assumed China could fix the North Korea problem easily but simply hadn't done it yet.

President Donald Trump recounted an absolutely astounding detail about one of his conversations with Chinese President Xi Jinping in comments published by the Wall Street Journal on Wednesday afternoon. Apparently, Trump came into his first meeting with the Chinese leader, in early April, convinced that China could simply eliminate the threat posed by North Korea’s nuclear program. Xi then patiently explained Chinese-Korean history to Trump — who then promptly changed his mind.

“After listening for 10 minutes, I realized it’s not so easy,” the president told the Journal. “I felt pretty strongly that they had a tremendous power [over] North Korea. ... But it’s not what you would think.”

Four quick observations about this:

1. Trump thought China could fix North Korea until the Chinese president politely informed him that North Korea is in fact complicated.
2. Trump seems to have required the leader of China to explain basic facts to him that he could have Googled, or at least asked one of the many US government North Korea experts about.
3. Trump came to a profound realization about one of the most dangerous conflicts on earth after a 10-minute conversation.
4. Trump is getting his information about East Asian affairs from the leader of America’s largest rival in the region."

Right, Trump has no more chance of solving this problem than of becoming President.

 

[oreo]

Trump on North Korea: "After listening for 10 minutes, I realized it’s not so easy"

Trump assumed China could fix the North Korea problem easily but simply hadn't done it yet.

President Donald Trump recounted an absolutely astounding detail about one of his conversations with Chinese President Xi Jinping in comments published by the Wall Street Journal on Wednesday afternoon. Apparently, Trump came into his first meeting with the Chinese leader, in early April, convinced that China could simply eliminate the threat posed by North Korea’s nuclear program. Xi then patiently explained Chinese-Korean history to Trump — who then promptly changed his mind.

“After listening for 10 minutes, I realized it’s not so easy,” the president told the Journal. “I felt pretty strongly that they had a tremendous power [over] North Korea. ... But it’s not what you would think.”

Four quick observations about this:

1. Trump thought China could fix North Korea until the Chinese president politely informed him that North Korea is in fact complicated.
2. Trump seems to have required the leader of China to explain basic facts to him that he could have Googled, or at least asked one of the many US government North Korea experts about.
3. Trump came to a profound realization about one of the most dangerous conflicts on earth after a 10-minute conversation.
4. Trump is getting his information about East Asian affairs from the leader of America’s largest rival in the region."

Trump has been an abject failure at understanding any of the issues. When he said "he knew more than our Generals do"--he meant it. Past Presidents have put pressure on China to get on N. Korea's ass.

But from what I heard on the news tonight Trump made an agreement with the Chinese Prime minister. He'll get off trade issues with them--if they'll do something about N. Korea. Apparently it worked. The Chinese Prime minister called Kim Jung UN--and said knock it off or we'll cut off your oil supply.

THE PROBLEM: Trump campaigned on Trade--"Make America Great Again"--and beat up China on trade--so now that's off the table. I am not certain how his supporters are going to take this one. That was a big deal to them, bringing back jobs from overseas--(of which China has most of them.)

 

[OKTexas]

Yeah, every president goes through a learning period, with Trump it's very complicated foreign relations. With your dear leader, it was his inability to recognize a truly shovel ready job.

So you're suggesting ANY other candidate of the 2016 race wouldn't have assumed something as retarded as China being able to easily shut down NK's nuclear program?

I'm telling you no one is fully prepared and knowledgeable enough to have a grasp on every aspect of the federal government form day one, no one. China is the number one trading partner with N. Korea, they enable the transfer of hard currency into N. Korea. They could cut N. Korea off at the knees if they chose to do it. The problem is effectively dealing with the N. Korean government, while not starving millions of N. Koreans to death. Kim has shown no reservations in directing scarce resources to his military ambitions to the detriment of his citizens. He will have to be taken out before he gains a capacity to deliver nuclear weapons.

 

[oreo]

Yeah, every president goes through a learning period, with Trump it's very complicated foreign relations. With your dear leader, it was his inability to recognize a truly shovel ready job.

So you're suggesting ANY other candidate of the 2016 race wouldn't have assumed something as retarded as China being able to easily shut down NK's nuclear program?

I'm telling you no one is fully prepared and knowledgeable enough to have a grasp on every aspect of the federal government form day one, no one. China is the number one trading partner with N. Korea, they enable the transfer of hard currency into N. Korea. They could cut N. Korea off at the knees if they chose to do it. The problem is effectively dealing with the N. Korean government, while not starving millions of N. Koreans to death. Kim has shown no reservations in directing scarce resources to his military ambitions to the detriment of his citizens. He will have to be taken out before he gains a capacity to deliver nuclear weapons.

China is our biggest trading partner. What does N. Korea produce except missles that can't fly?

From what I heard on the news tonight Trump made an agreement with the Chinese Prime minister. He'll get off trade issues with them--if they'll do something about N. Korea. Apparently it worked. The Chinese Prime minister called Kim Jung UN--and said knock it off or we'll cut off your oil supply.

THE PROBLEM: Trump campaigned on Trade--"Make America Great Again"--and beat up China on trade--so now that's off the table. I am not certain how his supporters are going to take this one. That was a big deal to them, bringing back jobs from overseas--(of which China has most of them.)

And no you wouldn't have had issues with understanding North Korea or anywhere else if you would have nominated any other person except Ben Carson. Trump was the most inept of all of them regarding foreign policy and what was really going on in the world. That was made more than clear throughout the primaries and including the debates with Hillary Clinton.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Yeah, every president goes through a learning period, with Trump it's very complicated foreign relations. With your dear leader, it was his inability to recognize a truly shovel ready job.

So you're suggesting ANY other candidate of the 2016 race wouldn't have assumed something as retarded as China being able to easily shut down NK's nuclear program?

I'm telling you no one is fully prepared and knowledgeable enough to have a grasp on every aspect of the federal government form day one, no one. China is the number one trading partner with N. Korea, they enable the transfer of hard currency into N. Korea. They could cut N. Korea off at the knees if they chose to do it. The problem is effectively dealing with the N. Korean government, while not starving millions of N. Koreans to death. Kim has shown no reservations in directing scarce resources to his military ambitions to the detriment of his citizens. He will have to be taken out before he gains a capacity to deliver nuclear weapons.

China is our biggest trading partner. What does N. Korea produce except missles that can't fly?

From what I heard on the news tonight Trump made an agreement with the Chinese Prime minister. He'll get off trade issues with them--if they'll do something about N. Korea. Apparently it worked. The Chinese Prime minister called Kim Jung UN--and said knock it off or we'll cut off your oil supply.

THE PROBLEM: Trump campaigned on Trade--"Make America Great Again"--and beat up China on trade--so now that's off the table. I am not certain how his supporters are going to take this one. That was a big deal to them, bringing back jobs from overseas--(of which China has most of them.)

And no you wouldn't have had issues with understanding North Korea or anywhere else if you would have nominated any other person except Ben Carson. Trump was the most inept of all of them regarding foreign policy and what was really going on in the world. That was made more than clear throughout the primaries and including the debates with Hillary Clinton.

lol If anyone else had understood how to deal with NK President Trump wouldn't have to deal with it now. Even by your own account, the President is making more progress in dealing with NK than any of his predecessors.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Yeah, every president goes through a learning period, with Trump it's very complicated foreign relations. With your dear leader, it was his inability to recognize a truly shovel ready job.

So you're suggesting ANY other candidate of the 2016 race wouldn't have assumed something as retarded as China being able to easily shut down NK's nuclear program?

I am still trying to vist all 57 states...


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[Wyatt earp]

Yeah, every president goes through a learning period, with Trump it's very complicated foreign relations. With your dear leader, it was his inability to recognize a truly shovel ready job.

So you're suggesting ANY other candidate of the 2016 race wouldn't have assumed something as retarded as China being able to easily shut down NK's nuclear program?

I'm telling you no one is fully prepared and knowledgeable enough to have a grasp on every aspect of the federal government form day one, no one. China is the number one trading partner with N. Korea, they enable the transfer of hard currency into N. Korea. They could cut N. Korea off at the knees if they chose to do it. The problem is effectively dealing with the N. Korean government, while not starving millions of N. Koreans to death. Kim has shown no reservations in directing scarce resources to his military ambitions to the detriment of his citizens. He will have to be taken out before he gains a capacity to deliver nuclear weapons.

China is our biggest trading partner. What does N. Korea produce except missles that can't fly?

From what I heard on the news tonight Trump made an agreement with the Chinese Prime minister. He'll get off trade issues with them--if they'll do something about N. Korea. Apparently it worked. The Chinese Prime minister called Kim Jung UN--and said knock it off or we'll cut off your oil supply.

THE PROBLEM: Trump campaigned on Trade--"Make America Great Again"--and beat up China on trade--so now that's off the table. I am not certain how his supporters are going to take this one. That was a big deal to them, bringing back jobs from overseas--(of which China has most of them.)

And no you wouldn't have had issues with understanding North Korea or anywhere else if you would have nominated any other person except Ben Carson. Trump was the most inept of all of them regarding foreign policy and what was really going on in the world. That was made more than clear throughout the primaries and including the debates with Hillary Clinton.

lol If anyone else had understood how to deal with NK President Trump wouldn't have to deal with it now. Even by your own account, the President is making more progress in dealing with NK than any of his predecessors.

Bwahahahahaha


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[OKTexas]

Yeah, every president goes through a learning period, with Trump it's very complicated foreign relations. With your dear leader, it was his inability to recognize a truly shovel ready job.

So you're suggesting ANY other candidate of the 2016 race wouldn't have assumed something as retarded as China being able to easily shut down NK's nuclear program?

I'm telling you no one is fully prepared and knowledgeable enough to have a grasp on every aspect of the federal government form day one, no one. China is the number one trading partner with N. Korea, they enable the transfer of hard currency into N. Korea. They could cut N. Korea off at the knees if they chose to do it. The problem is effectively dealing with the N. Korean government, while not starving millions of N. Koreans to death. Kim has shown no reservations in directing scarce resources to his military ambitions to the detriment of his citizens. He will have to be taken out before he gains a capacity to deliver nuclear weapons.

China is our biggest trading partner. What does N. Korea produce except missles that can't fly?

From what I heard on the news tonight Trump made an agreement with the Chinese Prime minister. He'll get off trade issues with them--if they'll do something about N. Korea. Apparently it worked. The Chinese Prime minister called Kim Jung UN--and said knock it off or we'll cut off your oil supply.

THE PROBLEM: Trump campaigned on Trade--"Make America Great Again"--and beat up China on trade--so now that's off the table. I am not certain how his supporters are going to take this one. That was a big deal to them, bringing back jobs from overseas--(of which China has most of them.)

And no you wouldn't have had issues with understanding North Korea or anywhere else if you would have nominated any other person except Ben Carson. Trump was the most inept of all of them regarding foreign policy and what was really going on in the world. That was made more than clear throughout the primaries and including the debates with Hillary Clinton.

Trade between the US and China was discussed with Xi, maybe if the commiecrats in the senate weren't slow waking every appointment we would have the trade rep in place, but Trump did get the ball rolling. Also N. Korea's largest export is coal, more than 100 billion a year mostly going to China. They also export garments, mostly coats and hats. Someone posted their trading partner list in another thread.

The top exports of North Korea are Coal Briquettes ($1.03B), Iron Ore($192M), Non-Knit Men's Coats ($161M), Non-Knit Men's Suits ($157M) and Non-Knit Women's Coats ($146M), using the 1992 revision of the HS (Harmonized System) classification. Its top imports are Refined Petroleum ($180M), Synthetic Filament Yarn Woven Fabric ($152M), Soybean Oil ($112M), Delivery Trucks ($108M) and Broadcasting Equipment ($84.2M).

The top export destinations of North Korea are China ($2.67B), India($71.6M), Pakistan ($40.5M), Nigeria ($20.2M) and Brazil ($19.9M). The top import origins are China ($3.49B), Thailand ($107M), Russia($82.1M), India ($75.2M) and Singapore ($48.4M).

OEC - North Korea (PRK) Exports, Imports, and Trade Partners

Take China out of the mix and N. Korea collapses.

 

[Billy000]

Yeah, every president goes through a learning period, with Trump it's very complicated foreign relations. With your dear leader, it was his inability to recognize a truly shovel ready job.

So you're suggesting ANY other candidate of the 2016 race wouldn't have assumed something as retarded as China being able to easily shut down NK's nuclear program?

I'm telling you no one is fully prepared and knowledgeable enough to have a grasp on every aspect of the federal government form day one, no one. China is the number one trading partner with N. Korea, they enable the transfer of hard currency into N. Korea. They could cut N. Korea off at the knees if they chose to do it. The problem is effectively dealing with the N. Korean government, while not starving millions of N. Koreans to death. Kim has shown no reservations in directing scarce resources to his military ambitions to the detriment of his citizens. He will have to be taken out before he gains a capacity to deliver nuclear weapons.

Not a clear understanding of foreign policy would be expected with any president coming in, but this is beyond stupid and you know it. This is information Trump could have easily learned from the Internet. Hell, he could have just consulted his own NK experts lol. He's a joke. Just admit it.

 

[OKTexas]

Yeah, every president goes through a learning period, with Trump it's very complicated foreign relations. With your dear leader, it was his inability to recognize a truly shovel ready job.

So you're suggesting ANY other candidate of the 2016 race wouldn't have assumed something as retarded as China being able to easily shut down NK's nuclear program?

I'm telling you no one is fully prepared and knowledgeable enough to have a grasp on every aspect of the federal government form day one, no one. China is the number one trading partner with N. Korea, they enable the transfer of hard currency into N. Korea. They could cut N. Korea off at the knees if they chose to do it. The problem is effectively dealing with the N. Korean government, while not starving millions of N. Koreans to death. Kim has shown no reservations in directing scarce resources to his military ambitions to the detriment of his citizens. He will have to be taken out before he gains a capacity to deliver nuclear weapons.

Not a clear understanding of foreign policy would be expected with any president coming in, but this is beyond stupid and you know it. This is information Trump could have easily learned from the Internet. Hell, he could have just consulted his own NK experts lol. He's a joke. Just admit it.

Only jokes I'm seeing are you regressives trying to nit pick every little thing. Why didn't your dear leader solve this, after all he did get the Nobel Peace prize.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Trump on North Korea: "After listening for 10 minutes, I realized it’s not so easy"

Trump assumed China could fix the North Korea problem easily but simply hadn't done it yet.

President Donald Trump recounted an absolutely astounding detail about one of his conversations with Chinese President Xi Jinping in comments published by the Wall Street Journal on Wednesday afternoon. Apparently, Trump came into his first meeting with the Chinese leader, in early April, convinced that China could simply eliminate the threat posed by North Korea’s nuclear program. Xi then patiently explained Chinese-Korean history to Trump — who then promptly changed his mind.

“After listening for 10 minutes, I realized it’s not so easy,” the president told the Journal. “I felt pretty strongly that they had a tremendous power [over] North Korea. ... But it’s not what you would think.”

Four quick observations about this:

1. Trump thought China could fix North Korea until the Chinese president politely informed him that North Korea is in fact complicated.
2. Trump seems to have required the leader of China to explain basic facts to him that he could have Googled, or at least asked one of the many US government North Korea experts about.
3. Trump came to a profound realization about one of the most dangerous conflicts on earth after a 10-minute conversation.
4. Trump is getting his information about East Asian affairs from the leader of America’s largest rival in the region."

Trump has been an abject failure at understanding any of the issues. When he said "he knew more than our Generals do"--he meant it. Past Presidents have put pressure on China to get on N. Korea's ass.

But from what I heard on the news tonight Trump made an agreement with the Chinese Prime minister. He'll get off trade issues with them--if they'll do something about N. Korea. Apparently it worked. The Chinese Prime minister called Kim Jung UN--and said knock it off or we'll cut off your oil supply.

THE PROBLEM: Trump campaigned on Trade--"Make America Great Again"--and beat up China on trade--so now that's off the table. I am not certain how his supporters are going to take this one. That was a big deal to them, bringing back jobs from overseas--(of which China has most of them.)

Except the Chinese think Trump is a fool, and they think he won't be there that long. So they make some agreement that gets them what they want, in return for playing a little game where they don't have to prove much.

 

[Onyx]

Did anyone actually believe that Donald had the slightest understanding of current events, geopolitics, and foreign affairs? Honestly.

 

[oreo]

Trump on North Korea: "After listening for 10 minutes, I realized it’s not so easy"

Trump assumed China could fix the North Korea problem easily but simply hadn't done it yet.

President Donald Trump recounted an absolutely astounding detail about one of his conversations with Chinese President Xi Jinping in comments published by the Wall Street Journal on Wednesday afternoon. Apparently, Trump came into his first meeting with the Chinese leader, in early April, convinced that China could simply eliminate the threat posed by North Korea’s nuclear program. Xi then patiently explained Chinese-Korean history to Trump — who then promptly changed his mind.

“After listening for 10 minutes, I realized it’s not so easy,” the president told the Journal. “I felt pretty strongly that they had a tremendous power [over] North Korea. ... But it’s not what you would think.”

Four quick observations about this:

1. Trump thought China could fix North Korea until the Chinese president politely informed him that North Korea is in fact complicated.
2. Trump seems to have required the leader of China to explain basic facts to him that he could have Googled, or at least asked one of the many US government North Korea experts about.
3. Trump came to a profound realization about one of the most dangerous conflicts on earth after a 10-minute conversation.
4. Trump is getting his information about East Asian affairs from the leader of America’s largest rival in the region."

Trump has been an abject failure at understanding any of the issues. When he said "he knew more than our Generals do"--he meant it. Past Presidents have put pressure on China to get on N. Korea's ass.

But from what I heard on the news tonight Trump made an agreement with the Chinese Prime minister. He'll get off trade issues with them--if they'll do something about N. Korea. Apparently it worked. The Chinese Prime minister called Kim Jung UN--and said knock it off or we'll cut off your oil supply.

THE PROBLEM: Trump campaigned on Trade--"Make America Great Again"--and beat up China on trade--so now that's off the table. I am not certain how his supporters are going to take this one. That was a big deal to them, bringing back jobs from overseas--(of which China has most of them.)

Except the Chinese think Trump is a fool, and they think he won't be there that long. So they make some agreement that gets them what they want, in return for playing a little game where they don't have to prove much.

Certainly there's not too many World Leaders that have a good opinion of Donald Trump. Many of them think he is an idiot--nothing more than a blow-hard. I don't know if Trump ALONE could have done anything with a trade agreement with China--I believe that would have had to have gone through congress also. Trade agreements are negotiated--approved by congress--SIGNED CONTRACTS.

But again, other than the WALL, kicking out ILLEGALS, executive order to ban MUSLIMS, Obamacare, and now TRADE agreements was a YUUUGEEE issue for many of his supporters. All of it has been an abject failure. The only success he has had is nominating a U.S. Supreme Court Justice that Democrats loved anyway.
Here Are the Democrats Who Voted for Neil Gorsuch as a Circuit Court Judge in 2006

This is because of his extreme lack of experience in Foreign policy and other government issues.The only Foreign policy experience he had was running the Miss Universe contest. I think many of his supporters thought they were voting for a KING--that could do anything he said. It's because they too knew nothing of how government works. Not understanding there are 3 branches of government all with their own authority over certain issues.

 

[Onyx]

Except the Chinese think Trump is a fool, and they think he won't be there that long. So they make some agreement that gets them what they want, in return for playing a little game where they don't have to prove much.

Whenever I watch a press conference between Donald and a foreign leader, the only thought running through my mind is how dumb they must think he is.

 

[007]

Billy is now the expert in foreign affairs....just ask him.

He's BFF's with pie face... and Dennis Rodman.

 

[Onyx]

What does N. Korea produce except missles that can't fly?

Actually their missiles fly quite well. Just not long distances.