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The devil is always in the fine print.
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This is NOT a government agency. Nor is is a copy right for you work. In the very least it is only a middle man to take you money.
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The devil is always in the fine print.
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This is NOT a government agency. Nor is is a copy right for you work. In the very least it is only a middle man to take you money.
She can post on the blog Becki it will give her an outlet for her creativity. That way she won't start so many damn straw threads where we show up and circle jerk our fingers off. While she watches us in delight. Shes nice though.
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oh, no, Syrenn. I thought I was at the official government page of the Library of Congress. Thanks for the save. I was truly tired last night when I posted that link, and must have done something careless as you pointed out. I was fooled, and I apologize to others on the thread. I could have sworn I posted from us.gov. Nope. This is what I mistook for the "gov't website" copyrightregistry - gov - form dot com. It was the word "gov-form" that fooled me, and I totally mistook it for "dot gov".
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freedombecki
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Here's the link that should have been posted: Library of Congress Home
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Derk, someone as talented as sky dancer can make a living from her original works. Anything you put anywhere online can be lifted by motivated people who would be so sorry as to steal from a starving artist. I should know. I walked into a public classroom of a teacher who'd bought one of my books in my store. Guess what. The idiot had copied my designs 30 times, which is against the copyright law, even for schools. This miz piggy was making $60,000 as a teacher with an MBA. I was a starving artist with a hand-to-mouth fiber art business that never put a single slice of bread on my family's table for 20 years.
Artists have to be careful about posting their good stuff on the world wide web or one of their less talented peers could heist it.
Just sayin'.
Derk, someone as talented as sky dancer can make a living from her original works. Anything you put anywhere online can be lifted by motivated people who would be so sorry as to steal from a starving artist. I should know. I walked into a public classroom of a teacher who'd bought one of my books in my store. Guess what. The idiot had copied my designs 30 times, which is against the copyright law, even for schools. This miz piggy was making $60,000 as a teacher with an MBA. I was a starving artist with a hand-to-mouth fiber art business that never put a single slice of bread on my family's table for 20 years.
Artists have to be careful about posting their good stuff on the world wide web or one of their less talented peers could heist it.
Just sayin'.
I hear that allot. So! Blog!!!! Put it here for us. Being here or online seems to be a major part of her social interactions. Social networks like twitter and facebook and you tube have made that argument seem irrelevant. DO IT!!! It'll be fun to watch her and we can have even more, SOCIAL INTERACTIONS.
freedombecki
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I at least had four other incidents of people stealing my work. I agreed to allow one of my originally-designed blackwork roosters be shown at a charity show, and while nobody was looking, somebody stole the pillow I'd worked to help sell patterns before I had it photographed to put on a pattern envelope to sell. The charity group was "very sorry" about it. Another Senior benefit group organizer came to my shop one day a few years later and requested that I let her hang one of my original quilts in the lobby at an old folks home. I agreed they could hang it for 3 months. Three months later, nobody returned my quilt. Six months later, I called the home and asked for my quilt back and asked to talk to the activities coordinator. She had quit her job and left town. Nobody knew nothin' about my quilt. A few years later, I'd sorta forgotten about these lessons in life when a local art gallery contacted me about their new discovery center in the museum, and since quilts were geometric, would I care to show a few items of mine that showed geometry in quilts. I was flattered, and they promised to send customers my way. I released geometric items in progress which could be handled for proof I had used geometric templates; others formed by simply using pins; a Kaleidoscope quilt I had painstakingly designed to be different from other Kaleidoscope quilts for hastily-made quilts, and another geometric quilt that also took 3 months of slave labor to construct, quilt, and bind, all using straight-line and curved work that could have come straight out of a Pathagorean theorem illustration book. 4 months later, after the "exhibit," I contacted the museum about the whereabouts of my 4 works for their display. They said they'd get back to me. I called them a year later, and they were irate at this point that I would dare bother them about something that happened so long ago.
While I wasn't making any money, I got cheated out of about $4,000 worth of artworks in my enthusiasm for helping out other people, and another $200 in book sales to a school, since I would have given a printing-costs-only price to the schools where my children went to school.
You have to be careful with your original works of art. If you don't copyright your months of work and labor, the least likeliest people are easiest for thieves to target, or they just don't empathize with your lack of funds when the expropriate your ideas, your original designs, and your original works.
While I wasn't making any money, I got cheated out of about $4,000 worth of artworks in my enthusiasm for helping out other people, and another $200 in book sales to a school, since I would have given a printing-costs-only price to the schools where my children went to school.
You have to be careful with your original works of art. If you don't copyright your months of work and labor, the least likeliest people are easiest for thieves to target, or they just don't empathize with your lack of funds when the expropriate your ideas, your original designs, and your original works.
freedombecki
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Yeah, Derk. I'm over ever making money from my arts, because I'm retired and too old to care. We seem to have enough to cover our needs, but if my little tale of woe can help someone who might not be so lucky as me in other aspects of her life, her artwork could be her bread and butter and care package rolled into one for her old age. I make and post haiku because I love the craft of playing with words. I have many equivalent loves in the arts--lingual, visual, and aural. I've enjoyed all of them.Derk, someone as talented as sky dancer can make a living from her original works. Anything you put anywhere online can be lifted by motivated people who would be so sorry as to steal from a starving artist. I should know. I walked into a public classroom of a teacher who'd bought one of my books in my store. Guess what. The idiot had copied my designs 30 times, which is against the copyright law, even for schools. This miz piggy was making $60,000 as a teacher with an MBA. I was a starving artist with a hand-to-mouth fiber art business that never put a single slice of bread on my family's table for 20 years.
Artists have to be careful about posting their good stuff on the world wide web or one of their less talented peers could heist it.
Just sayin'.
I hear that allot. So! Blog!!!! Put it here for us. Being here or online seems to be a major part of her social interactions. Social networks like twitter and facebook and you tube have made that argument seem irrelevant. DO IT!!! It'll be fun to watch her and we can have even more, SOCIAL INTERACTIONS.
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I do need a break from the doldrums here.
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Poems, short stories and memoir.
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FACTS
S.Freud died in 1939; A.Einstein in 55, P.Picasso in 73 and C.Linbergh in 74,
while women only got the right to vote in the mid-70s in some European countries. Slavery was officially abolished in Ethiopia in 1931, and Saudi Arabia in 1962. Slavery is not legal anywhere, but is happening everywhere, under lots of names and legalisms. Such unacceptable behavior, false notion yesteryear thinking and fear-based ideologies that reign as intelligence, show just how profound being modern is, and the challenges of being contemporary are.
The pillars of Modern Wisdom are ecology, biology, psychology and cosmology, along with technology dynamics and universal ideals. Ecology is the unifying effort of nature. Biology is the unifying effort of life. Psychology is everything thats not biology. Personalities are the wardrobe psychology weaves. Technology is unifying man and globalization is connecting mankind
S.Freud died in 1939; A.Einstein in 55, P.Picasso in 73 and C.Linbergh in 74,
while women only got the right to vote in the mid-70s in some European countries. Slavery was officially abolished in Ethiopia in 1931, and Saudi Arabia in 1962. Slavery is not legal anywhere, but is happening everywhere, under lots of names and legalisms. Such unacceptable behavior, false notion yesteryear thinking and fear-based ideologies that reign as intelligence, show just how profound being modern is, and the challenges of being contemporary are.
The pillars of Modern Wisdom are ecology, biology, psychology and cosmology, along with technology dynamics and universal ideals. Ecology is the unifying effort of nature. Biology is the unifying effort of life. Psychology is everything thats not biology. Personalities are the wardrobe psychology weaves. Technology is unifying man and globalization is connecting mankind
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Genre. What do they lean toward? What style?
Honor poems? Love poems? Children's short stories? Westerns? SiFi? Fictional memoirs? Erotica? Porn?
What genre?
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Suspense, horror. I can't really describe my poems. They're all different.
As to the memoir, sometimes I fictionalize it because it tells the truth more clearly.
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So your poems are eclectic and you write fiction.
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Betting? On another person's writing?
Talk about your troubles...
talk about your ills...
when all you do is gather...
what another spills.
So, see what I told you...
and so, see what I said...
it will steal your face...
right off of your head.
Rat in a drain ditch...
caught in the pour...
shivering little twitch...
come nevermore.
I used to write poetry and fiction.
Now I spend most my writing stamina posting about current issues on line.
Writing for eventual publication is lonely work, whereas writing in this venue gives one instant feedback and some sense of fellowship with other human beings.
One of the thing I am fairly sure of is this --if I'm ever going to start writing creatively again, I'll have to give up my habituation to posting in venues like these.
But I have learned much about people in these years, I think, so my time hasn't been entirely a waste.
If I start writing again, no doubt some of the folks I've met on line are going to be models for the characters I will invent.
Posting in places like this has expanded my horizons about how other people think and view the world.
And ironically, despite the fact that I think some of the people I've posted with are seriously wrongheaded, I think interacting with those folks and reading their perspective on issues has made me more sympathetic to their plight and POVs, too.
For an author of fiction, such honest revelations about how other people see the world are grist for his mill.
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