Wow, Harris is out of her mind.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/25/AR2006082501640.html

Rep. Harris Condemns Separation of Church, State

By Jim Stratton
Orlando Sentinel
Saturday, August 26, 2006; A09

ORLANDO, Aug. 25 -- Rep. Katherine Harris (R-Fla.) said this week that God did not intend for the United States to be a "nation of secular laws" and that the separation of church and state is a "lie we have been told" to keep religious people out of politics.

"If you're not electing Christians, then in essence you are going to legislate sin," Harris told interviewers from the Florida Baptist Witness, the weekly journal of the Florida Baptist State Convention. She cited abortion and same-sex marriage as examples of that sin.

Harris, a candidate in the Sept. 5 Republican primary for U.S. Senate, said her religious beliefs "animate" everything she does, including her votes in Congress.

Witness editors interviewed candidates for office, asking them to describe their faith and their positions on certain issues.

Harris has always professed a deep Christian faith. But she has rarely expressed such a fervent evangelical perspective publicly.

Political and religious officials responded to her published remarks with outrage and dismay.

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) said she was "disgusted" by the comments "and deeply disappointed in Representative Harris personally."

Harris, Wasserman Schultz said, "clearly shows that she does not deserve to be a representative."

Ruby Brooks, a veteran Tampa Bay Republican activist, said Harris's remarks "were offensive to me as a Christian and a Republican."

"This notion that you've been chosen or anointed, it's offensive," Brooks said. "We hurt our cause with that more than we help it."

Harris told the journalists "we have to have the faithful in government" because that is God's will. Separating religion and politics is "so wrong because God is the one who chooses our rulers," she said.



"And if we are the ones not actively involved in electing those godly men and women," then "we're going to have a nation of secular laws. That's not what our Founding Fathers intended, and that certainly isn't what God intended."
Harris campaign spokeswoman Jennifer Marks would not answer questions about the Harris interview. Instead, she released a two-sentence statement.

"Congresswoman Harris encourages Americans from all walks of life and faith to participate in our government," it stated. "She continues to be an unwavering advocate of religious rights and freedoms."
 
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What's up guys and gals? A big shot Republican made a fool of herself and no one is going to defend her.
 

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They don't believe that she made a fool of herself. The kool aid has that effect.
 

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Seems to me that the Harris campaign is already so far gone that anything they do is futile. Everytime I here something coming from that place it just sounds worse and worse. At this point though its funny. I'm kind of surprised anyones still working on the campaign. I know the GOP tried to get her out of the race. I really wish she'd just give up and save what face she has left.
 

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She is a big shot republican? When did this happen?
 

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They don't believe that she made a fool of herself. The kool aid has that effect.
This is true (except the koolaid part). Any rep who says his/her religious beliefs don't color his/her decisions in office 1) is lying or 2) doesn't recognize his/her religion.

The people elected Harris to represent them. They must have agreed with her philosophy. If they don't, she won't be reelected. She was speaking specifically to her constituency.
 

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Can somebody, anybody build a case for secularism being a success?

Seems like Mrs. Harris is almost spot on.
 

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/25/AR2006082501640.html

Rep. Harris Condemns Separation of Church, State

By Jim Stratton
Orlando Sentinel
Saturday, August 26, 2006; A09

ORLANDO, Aug. 25 -- Rep. Katherine Harris (R-Fla.) said this week that God did not intend for the United States to be a "nation of secular laws" and that the separation of church and state is a "lie we have been told" to keep religious people out of politics.

"If you're not electing Christians, then in essence you are going to legislate sin," Harris told interviewers from the Florida Baptist Witness, the weekly journal of the Florida Baptist State Convention. She cited abortion and same-sex marriage as examples of that sin.

Harris, a candidate in the Sept. 5 Republican primary for U.S. Senate, said her religious beliefs "animate" everything she does, including her votes in Congress.

Witness editors interviewed candidates for office, asking them to describe their faith and their positions on certain issues.

Harris has always professed a deep Christian faith. But she has rarely expressed such a fervent evangelical perspective publicly.

Political and religious officials responded to her published remarks with outrage and dismay.

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) said she was "disgusted" by the comments "and deeply disappointed in Representative Harris personally."

Harris, Wasserman Schultz said, "clearly shows that she does not deserve to be a representative."

Ruby Brooks, a veteran Tampa Bay Republican activist, said Harris's remarks "were offensive to me as a Christian and a Republican."

"This notion that you've been chosen or anointed, it's offensive," Brooks said. "We hurt our cause with that more than we help it."

Harris told the journalists "we have to have the faithful in government" because that is God's will. Separating religion and politics is "so wrong because God is the one who chooses our rulers," she said.



"And if we are the ones not actively involved in electing those godly men and women," then "we're going to have a nation of secular laws. That's not what our Founding Fathers intended, and that certainly isn't what God intended."
Harris campaign spokeswoman Jennifer Marks would not answer questions about the Harris interview. Instead, she released a two-sentence statement.

"Congresswoman Harris encourages Americans from all walks of life and faith to participate in our government," it stated. "She continues to be an unwavering advocate of religious rights and freedoms."
Harris is just as bat-shit crazy as Anne Coulter. But since she had the boob job, alot better looking.
 

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Harris is just as bat-shit crazy as Anne Coulter. But since she had the boob job, alot better looking.
Tell us specifically what Harris said above that is "bat shit crazy". I suspect you can't do that anymore than you could tell us why Coulter is "bat shit crazy". If there's any shit around here, I'd say it's Bullyshit.
 
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Tell us specifically what Harris said above that is "bat shit crazy". I suspect you can't do that anymore than you could tell us why Coulter is "bat shit crazy". If there's any shit around here, I'd say it's Bullyshit.

I know it was addressed to bully, but if it's cool, I'd like to interject.

"we're going to have a nation of secular laws. That's not what our Founding Fathers intended, and that certainly isn't what God intended."-Harris

That alone, is enough to be considered "bat shit crazy". Her peers were even ashamed of her.
 

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What's up guys and gals? A big shot Republican made a fool of herself and no one is going to defend her.
Sounds to me like she is a Christian and isn't afraid to say it out loud. And she also speaks the plain truth that religion shapes people's beliefs and there is no way you can just hang those beliefs at the door as if it were a coat when you arrive at work. If you don't like her, don't vote for her. If she were in my state I'd probably vote for her, there is nothing I've seen stated that offends me. Couldn't say the same for libocrats.
 

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I know it was addressed to bully, but if it's cool, I'd like to interject.

"we're going to have a nation of secular laws. That's not what our Founding Fathers intended, and that certainly isn't what God intended."-Harris

That alone, is enough to be considered "bat shit crazy". Her peers were even ashamed of her.
You don't get what she's saying.

"Secular" laws, for instance, allow for widespread pornography because any "anti-sin" legislation - according to the "secular" liberals - cannot be legislated because it relates to "religious" beliefs.
 

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I know it was addressed to bully, but if it's cool, I'd like to interject.

"we're going to have a nation of secular laws. That's not what our Founding Fathers intended, and that certainly isn't what God intended."-Harris

That alone, is enough to be considered "bat shit crazy". Her peers were even ashamed of her.

Pretty narrow-minded, intolerant viewpoint on your part.
 

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What kind of success I'm I going to explain about? Secularism being a stable foundation for society, or secularism in America?
In the early 20th century all mention of religion and god was taken out of the public classroom along with a push by the supreme court to remove mention of god and religion out of the public arena, since then we have a soaring crime rate, more teenage births, births out of wedlock etc. etc. etc., these detriments are in direct correlation with our push to secularism.

Please explain some of the positive benefits secularism has had on our society.
 

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