Would you intervene like Penny did on the subway???

[Superbadbrutha]

And you would wait to find out?

Damn right, I am not going to just murder a man on an assumption.

And if given the chance, that might be too late.

It might or it might not.

You're right. Let's take the " what ifs" out of it and take it to it's core. Neely was threatening to kill people, acting erratically, Penny tried to subdue him before he could do anything, but his choke hold went wrong and he accidentally killed the man. If you can prove he intentionally killed Neely, then I will agree with you, but until that point, all you have is a guy who was trying to protect himself and the passengers of that subway car.

Save that bullshit about he accidentally murdered him. All I see is a man who murdered and unarmed man who hadn't done anything to anyone.

He meant to kill this man and white folks like you cheered him on.

Which, at the time, might have been awhile since they were on a moving subway car.

You got you one, reminds you of the Good Ole Days.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Really? And from which university did you receive your Phi Beta Kappa key?

You think that makes you smart? LOL.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Yea, after he was murdered.

You mean died.

Probably because he hadn't done anything to them.

Or, maybe they were too scared to react.

Please, keep telling yourself that.

Thanks, I will. If you don't believe me, go back and look at my stances on george Floyd.

You weren't in his head, you don't know what the hell his motive was. How many times have we seen a white man get away with murdering a black man in this country?

And you also weren't in his head, yet you are quick to assert he "murdered" Neely.

How many times has a black man killed or violently attacked someone white and we never hear about it?

If Neely had choked an unarmed man to death just because he thought the guy might have a weapon, I would be giving his ass the business as well.

"Keep telling yourself that"

Penny didn't know if Neely was armed or not.

You're saying if Penny had been on that subway telling people he wasn't afraid to die and he was going to kill someone...if Neely choked him and killed him...you'd be here defending Penny? Really???

 

[Lisa558]

You think that makes you smart? LOL.

Yes, people who graduate Phi Beta Kappa are smart. Duh.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

You mean died.

No I mean murdered.

Or, maybe they were too scared to react.

Or maybe they had seen it before.

Thanks, I will. If you don't believe me, go back and look at my stances on george Floyd.

I see your stance on this.

And you also weren't in his head, yet you are quick to assert he "murdered" Neely.

When you choke someone to death, that would be murder.

How many times has a black man killed or violently attacked someone white and we never hear about it?

If a black man murders someone you better believe the Justice System will fall on them like a ton of bricks.

"Keep telling yourself that"

Penny didn't know if Neely was armed or not.

You're saying if Penny had been on that subway telling people he wasn't afraid to die and he was going to kill someone...if Neely choked him and killed him...you'd be here defending Penny? Really???

Whatelse could I do? You have never seen me defending a black man murdering a white man.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Yes, people who graduate Phi Beta Kappa are smart. Duh.

Book smart, doesn't mean they have any mother wit.

 

[Lisa558]

No I mean murdered.

Or maybe they had seen it before.

I see your stance on this.

When you choke someone to death, that would be murder.

If a black man murders someone you better believe the Justice System will fall on them like a ton of bricks.

Whatelse could I do? You have never seen me defending a black man murdering a white man.

A black man DID murder someone - stabbed him to death - on a subway a month later, and they let him off. He even tried to evade police, while Penny remained on scene, but they let him off for that as well.

This is what happens in liberal cities and states - go easy on the black man, and throw the book at whitey.

 

[Lisa558]

Book smart, doesn't mean they have any mother wit.

It’s a lot more than book smart.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

A black man DID murder someone - stabbed him to death - on a subway a month later, and they let him off. He even tried to evade police, while Penny remained on scene, but they let him off for that as well.

This is what happens in liberal cities and states - go easy on the black man, and throw the book at whitey.

No that black man killed a man who physically attacked his wife, funny how you want to leave that part out of the equation.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

It’s a lot more than book smart.

I know plenty of folks who have degrees, but have no common sense.

 

[MayorQuimby]

If you see someone acting belligerent and threatening people on a train, that requires action

Yes. He was making some very serious threats. I believe he was saying how he was "ready to go to jail" and such.

But, I don't understand why Penny kept him in a chokehold for so long, long after his body had gone limp. Also, I believe the victim was quite small in frame. I kind of think Penny might have used excessive force.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Penny got away with murder, plain and simple.

 

[MayorQuimby]

Penny got away with murder, plain and simple.

Nope.

Manslaughter at best. He had no intention of killing the victim. He just didn't release the chokehold early enough.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Nope.

Manslaughter at best. He had no intention of killing the victim. He just didn't release the chokehold early enough.

How do you know he had no intentions of killing him? It's amazing how you cats are mind readers.

 

[MayorQuimby]

How do you know he had no intentions of killing him? It's amazing how you cats are mind readers.

I didn't say I could read his mind. I went by what he said. I don't know for sure if he was being 100% truthful, but I don't have any real reason to doubt him.

 

[MayorQuimby]

No I mean murdered.

You can't say that because you literally don't have access to Penny's mind.

Stop having such a strong emotional reaction. All you see is some white dude killed a black dude, and you're immediately like, "murder!!!"

 

[ThisIsMe]

No I mean murdered.

Incorrect, it wasn't murder he wasn't charged with murder let alone convicted. It was a restraint gone wrong.

Or maybe they had seen it before.

Or maybe they were too scared to react (now you're doing the "what if"..essentially)

I see your stance on this.

Did you see my stance on Floyd? Becaise if you had, it totally undermines your assertion that I wouldn't be defending penny if he HAD intended on killing neely.

When you choke someone to death, that would be murder.

Would it be murder if a black person chokes out a white person?

If a black man murders someone you better believe the Justice System will fall on them like a ton of bricks.

Oh? Really? Because the statistics say a white person is far more likely to be the victim of murder or violent assault from a black person than a black person it from a white person...but you don't hear the news talking about all the white people murdered or assaulted by black people. They bury all those stories.

Whatelse could I do? You have never seen me defending a black man murdering a white man.

Lol, you can't say it can you? If the roles were reversed, if neely was the defender and penny was the raging man, that neely would be wrong for the death of penny...you can't say it can you?

You have never seen me defending a black man murdering a white man.

I've never seen you comment..at all...on a black man murdering a white man...

 

[MayorQuimby]

This is what happens in liberal cities and states - go easy on the black man, and throw the book at whitey.

I don't understand how a white person could remain in a city/state like that. They should all run to a more sane state and let the lefty shit-hole implode due to the lack of taxes.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

I didn't say I could read his mind. I went by what he said. I don't know for sure if he was being 100% truthful, but I don't have any real reason to doubt him.

Fair enough, I don't trust his words.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

You can't say that because you literally don't have access to Penny's mind.

Stop having such a strong emotional reaction. All you see is some white dude killed a black dude, and you're immediately like, "murder!!!"

Could that be because I have seen it too many times in my life?