Would someone please explain the left's notion about Trump and Russia?

[ColonelAngus]

Hillary needed excuses for her megadonors as to why she lost and why they will not get political favors in return for their donations.

The DOJ used DNC oppo research and turned it into a bullshit federal case. The Steele Dossier is pure bullshit. The FISA COURT was corrupt. The evidence for the indictment was NEVER corroborated.

100% FASCISM BY POS COMMUNISTS.

Amazing how donations to the CLINTON FOUNDATION DROPPED 90% WHEN SHE LOST. Does that make any of you cult fucks think twice?

You are captured in a cult. You need to wake the fuck up.

 

[luiza]

When Hannity repeatedly gave Trump an opportunity to condemn Putin, Trump refused to do so.

Which is why Trump is where he is and you are a nobody .

Clearly your Games Strategical knowledge is zero .

 

[alang1216]

Go away with your ignorant little fallacies. The last thing Xi and Putin want right now, is to se a second term of Donald Trump.

Putin's biggest problem right now is Ukraine. Trump would try and force Ukraine to give up land for peace. Just what Putin wants.

 

[DonGlock26]

I never understood that. The almost universally-accepted presumption among Democrats, is that there's some kind of bond between Donald Trump and Russia. But in spite of that, here we have RT claiming that a President Trump would "drive a wedge" between Russia and China.

Of course this is the view of a Russian state-controlled international news television network funded by the Russian government. Their purpose is to disseminate propaganda, right? So why would they criticize a presidential candidate thought of by half the American electorate, to be "sympathetic" to them?

These are strange times we're living in.


Trump promises to drive wedge between Russia and China

"The US Republican presidential candidate has said he would “un-unite” the two superpowers if re-elected

Republican nominee Donald Trump has blamed US President Joe Biden for the deepening of Russia-China ties, and promised to drive a wedge between the two nuclear powers."

Trump promises to drive wedge between Russia and China

It is a smear created by the Hillary Clinton campaign.

FEC fines Hillary Clinton campaign and DNC over Trump-Russia dossier research


Federal election regulators fined Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee earlier this month for not properly disclosing the money they spent on controversial opposition research that led to the infamous Trump-Russia dossier.

The DNC was fined $105,000 and the Clinton campaign was fined $8,000, according to a letter sent by the Federal Election Commission to a conservative group that requested an inquiry.

FEC fines Hillary Clinton campaign and DNC over Trump-Russia dossier research | CNN Politics

Federal election regulators fined Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee earlier this month for not properly disclosing the money they spent on controversial opposition research that led to the infamous Trump-Russia dossier.

www.cnn.com

 

[JGalt]

Sure.........................

The 2016 presidential campaign of Donald Trump was formally launched on June 16, 2015, at Trump Tower in New York City.

How convenient.

With Russians...........YES.

Sanctions were imposed in 2016.

No but there should.

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You have nothing to stand on, besides some off the cuff comments Trump made in the past.

Now it's time to put up or shut the fuck up: List everything President Trump did throughout his whole four year term, that in any way benefited, helped, enriched, supported, or otherwise aided Russia, Putin, or the Russian government.

You can't.

 

[JGalt]

Putin's biggest problem right now is Ukraine. Trump would try and force Ukraine to give up land for peace. Just what Putin wants.

When did Trump say that? Are you a mind reader or something?

 

[ColonelAngus]

As soon as Hillary lost….the Clinton Foundation cured all hunger and disease on earth. NO MORE DONATIONS!

AS soon as Joe Biden dropped out of the 2024 POTUS RACE…the value of Hunter Biden paintings dropped to nothing.

These things do not make the cult fucks the least bit suspicious….because they are in a cult.

They ignore these things, but they want Trump in prison for saying Liz Cheney should have to go to war.

You left wing communist cult fucks are truly sick people.

 

[rightwinger]

Which is why Trump is where he is and you are a nobody .

Clearly your Games Strategical knowledge is zero .

Trump is a convicted Felon and I have never been arrested

 

[Carl in Michigan]

He owes his 2016 win to Russia. He'll do nothing to thwart whatever plans they have.

You make loony statements backed up by NOTHING. The "nothing" is what the OP asked you to explain

 

[SeaMajor7]

That the demented avenger subverted demoralized Stalinist Marxist Leninist brainwashed zombie ASSHOLES cite Russia Russia Russia as a problem now is the PENULTIMATE IRONY OF IRONIES.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

You have nothing to stand on, besides some off the cuff comments Trump made in the past.

Now it's time to put up or shut the fuck up: List everything President Trump did throughout his whole four year term, that in any way benefited, helped, enriched, supported, or otherwise aided Russia, Putin, or the Russian government.

You can't.

Trump sides with Russia against FBI at Helsinki summit​

BBC
https://www.bbc.com › news › world-europe-44852812
Jul 16, 2018 — US President Donald Trump has defended Russia over claims of interference in the 2016 presidential election.

US lifts sanctions on Putin ally's firms​

BBC
https://www.bbc.com › news › business-47023004
Jan 27, 2019 — The Trump administration has lifted sanctions on three firms linked to Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska, an ally of President Vladimir Putin.

 

[Dragonlady]

So? Trump also said on October 19, 2016 when referring to Putin, “This is not my best friend."

And why shouldn't Trump have sold property to individuals with Russian passports in 2017? Was there a law against conducting global commerce? You yourself made that post on a computer that was made in communist China, hypocrite.

More pretzel logic from Trump Cultists. Using a computer made in China is not the same thing as making millions of dollars in China while President. One of these things is called "bribery", and just so you understand clearly, it's not typing on a Chinese made computer.

 

[Dragonlady]

That the demented avenger subverted demoralized Stalinist Marxist Leninist brainwashed zombie ASSHOLES cite Russia Russia Russia as a problem now is the PENULTIMATE IRONY OF IRONIES.

The USA has been supporting the Ukraine in fending off the Russian invasion since 2012, SeaSlug. Not to mention, the USA Senate, under the leadership of Mitch McConnell issued a Senate Report outlining Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Senate panel finds Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. election

The report purposely does not come to a final conclusion, as the other reports did, about whether there is enough evidence that Trump’s campaign coordinated or colluded with Russia to sway the election, leaving its findings open to partisan interpretation.

www.pbs.org

Press | Intelligence Committee

www.intelligence.senate.gov

The Mueller Investigation filed multiple court cases against Russian citizens and entities, and multiple Americans plead guilty to assisting them.

https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/dl

You have to be a complete moron to think this didn't happen, or that it's not happening in this election.

 

[DonGlock26]

The USA has been supporting the Ukraine in fending off the Russian invasion since 2012, SeaSlug.

So, the Uniparty has been failing for 12 years. How much money have they wasted?

Why aren't the West's leftists going over to fight Putin on the battlefield?

 

[Muhammed]

Trump wants to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.

That would be awesome. A huge symbol of capitalism in the middle of red square.

 

[Muhammed]

Hillary needed excuses for her megadonors as to why she lost and why they will not get political favors in return for their donations.

The DOJ used DNC oppo research and turned it into a bullshit federal case. The Steele Dossier is pure bullshit. The FISA COURT was corrupt. The evidence for the indictment was NEVER corroborated.

100% FASCISM BY POS COMMUNISTS.

Amazing how donations to the CLINTON FOUNDATION DROPPED 90% WHEN SHE LOST. Does that make any of you cult fucks think twice?

You are captured in a cult. You need to wake the fuck up.

Speaking of communists...

Who is that girl on that Communist Party of the Soviet Union membership card?

Now you know how to spell Kamala Harris in Russian Cyrillic.

 

[Blaster]

I've been to Russia and most of the people there support Putin.

 

[alang1216]

When did Trump say that? Are you a mind reader or something?

Doesn't take a mind reader. How else could he make peace? He is not going to war with Russia so threats won't work.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Democrats made up the Russia story in 2016. They paid Christopher Steele to fabricate a dossier. They have been running with this ever since.

 

[JoeB131]

Russia and China are gonna be conjoined at the hip so long as the US keeps trying to threaten them militarily and economically. The whole Russia thing is super simple. Prior to 2016 you almost never heard anything about Russia, and if you did it was usually a jab at McCarthyism. Election happens, Clinton loses badly. What do they do from there?
A) Gee, we really messed up. The people wanted a change and we ran literally a nepotistic career politician.

Except the people said no to Trump. Loudly. Trump lost the popular vote. You guys can't keep citing what the people wanted when Trump keeps losing the popular vote.

Oh, prior to 2016, you heard a lot about Russia. You were probably too busy watching Reality TV, though.

B) THE RUSSIAN'S SECRETLY HACKED THE ELECTION!

Except 17 Intelligence agencies concluded they did. That they did isn't really in question. The only real question was if Trump was in on the gag, or if the Russians just see him as a useful idiot.

The Mueller investigation found that a lot of people working for Trump were on the Russian Payroll. Manafort, Flynn, etc.

Of course they're not gonna admit they made a mistake. They have like five mansions and two yachts each. They all went to Ivy League schools. They're smarter and better than livestock like us, and they don't make mistakes. So if they lost it HAD to be because of some kind of cheating. I remember at first it was that the Russians hacked the machines. Then President Obama came out and said that wasn't possible, so they changed the story to they tampered with the votes, which also was bogus. Finally they settled on, wait for it, THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT TAKING OUT ADS ON FACEBOOK!

A couple of points. First, if the Russians HAD hacked the machines, do you think the government would ever admit they did?

I give you the case of Reality Winner. Besides needing parents who needed to be slapped for giving her a stupid name, she leaked a report about the extent of Russian interference in the 2016 to the intercept. She was given the harshest sentence ANYONE has ever been given for leaking information. Not for leaking nuclear secrets or taking home boxes of classified information, but for pointing out that the Russians were interfering in our elections.

Reality Winner - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Second point. The Russians did a lot more than take out some Facebook ads. They employed thousands of internet trolls to spread fake information. (I suspect we have more than a few of these people on USMB to this day.)

tl;dr saying the Russians choose our presidents is an easy way to avoid having to admit that you ran a bad and out of touch campaign.

I'll freely admit that Hillary ran a pretty poor campaign. She wasn't a good pick as a candidate.

That doesn't take away from the fact that more people still voted for her and that the Russians were actively aiding Trump.