Would Another Assault Weapons Ban Be Effective?

g5000

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Let's not get dragged down into a stupid argument of what an "assault weapon" is. An assault weapon is whatever Congress decides it is, and to argue about how stupid it is they include one kind of gun and not another is a waste of time.

In 1994, Congress passed an AWB: Text of H.R. 4296 (103rd): Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act (Placed on Calendar in the Senate version) - GovTrack.us

The AWB also banned large capacity magazines, though existing large capacity magazines were grandfathered. You could still buy and sell grandfathered magazines.

It is my opinion that the AWB had a negligible impact on the gun homicide rate in America.

The 1994 AWB expired in 2004.

I imagine any future AWB will have a longer list of "assault weapons", and will police large capacity magazines more thoroughly.

Now let's get down to the meat and potatoes of why this is an exercise in futility.

First and foremost, 99 percent of all gun homicides do not involve an assault weapon.

Assault weapon shootings make splashy headlines. Lots of blood and sadness.

The press tries to connect every mass shooting to assault weapons. Every time there is a mass shooting involving an assault weapon, the following days are filled with headlines screaming about how many mass shootings per week we are suffering, with the unspoken but deliberate implication these mass shootings all involve assault weapons.

The fact is, the vast majority of mass shootings do NOT involve an assault weapons ban.


Handguns are the most common weapon type used in mass shootings in the United States, with a total of 151 different handguns being used in 103 incidents between 1982 and November 2022. These figures are calculated from a total of 137 reported cases over this period, meaning handguns are involved in about 75 percent of mass shootings.


Here is the definition of a mass shooting: Mass shooting | Definition, Statistics, Weapons, & Locations

mass shooting, also called active shooter incident, as defined by the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), an event in which one or more individuals are “actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area. Implicit in this definition is the shooter’s use of a firearm.” The FBI has not set a minimum number of casualties to qualify an event as a mass shooting, but U.S. statute (the Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act of 2012) defines a “mass killing” as “3 or more killings in a single incident.”


It is my opinion an Assault Weapons Ban is theater for the rubes which has little to no effect on the gun violence problem in the United States.

Fire away!
 
Let's not get dragged down into a stupid argument of what an "assault weapon" is. An assault weapon is whatever Congress decides it is, and to argue about how stupid it is they include one kind of gun and not another is a waste of time.

In 1994, Congress passed an AWB: Text of H.R. 4296 (103rd): Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act (Placed on Calendar in the Senate version) - GovTrack.us

The AWB also banned large capacity magazines, though existing large capacity magazines were grandfathered. You could still buy and sell grandfathered magazines.

It is my opinion that the AWB had a negligible impact on the gun homicide rate in America.

The 1994 AWB expired in 2004.

I imagine any future AWB will have a longer list of "assault weapons", and will police large capacity magazines more thoroughly.

Now let's get down to the meat and potatoes of why this is an exercise in futility.

First and foremost, 99 percent of all gun homicides do not involve an assault weapon.

Assault weapon shootings make splashy headlines. Lots of blood and sadness.

The press tries to connect every mass shooting to assault weapons. Every time there is a mass shooting involving an assault weapon, the following days are filled with headlines screaming about how many mass shootings per week we are suffering, with the unspoken but deliberate implication these mass shootings all involve assault weapons.

The fact is, the vast majority of mass shootings do NOT involve an assault weapons ban.


Handguns are the most common weapon type used in mass shootings in the United States, with a total of 151 different handguns being used in 103 incidents between 1982 and November 2022. These figures are calculated from a total of 137 reported cases over this period, meaning handguns are involved in about 75 percent of mass shootings.


Here is the definition of a mass shooting: Mass shooting | Definition, Statistics, Weapons, & Locations

mass shooting, also called active shooter incident, as defined by the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), an event in which one or more individuals are “actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area. Implicit in this definition is the shooter’s use of a firearm.” The FBI has not set a minimum number of casualties to qualify an event as a mass shooting, but U.S. statute (the Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act of 2012) defines a “mass killing” as “3 or more killings in a single incident.”


It is my opinion an Assault Weapons Ban is theater for the rubes which has little to no effect on the gun violence problem in the United States.

Fire away!
Throwing mentally ill people like you into institutions would be far more effective.
 
An assault weapon is whatever Congress decides it is,

Yeah no........same logic gives the word women is whatever Congress dopes say.......does no good to enshrine idiocy into law
But it is a simple fact that whatever Congress decides to ban is what gets banned. Arguing over the definition of an assault weapon is mental masturbation. Congress has the final word.
 
Let's not get dragged down into a stupid argument of what an "assault weapon" is. An assault weapon is whatever Congress decides it is, and to argue about how stupid it is they include one kind of gun and not another is a waste of time.

In 1994, Congress passed an AWB: Text of H.R. 4296 (103rd): Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act (Placed on Calendar in the Senate version) - GovTrack.us

The AWB also banned large capacity magazines, though existing large capacity magazines were grandfathered. You could still buy and sell grandfathered magazines.

It is my opinion that the AWB had a negligible impact on the gun homicide rate in America.

The 1994 AWB expired in 2004.

I imagine any future AWB will have a longer list of "assault weapons", and will police large capacity magazines more thoroughly.

Now let's get down to the meat and potatoes of why this is an exercise in futility.

First and foremost, 99 percent of all gun homicides do not involve an assault weapon.

Assault weapon shootings make splashy headlines. Lots of blood and sadness.

The press tries to connect every mass shooting to assault weapons. Every time there is a mass shooting involving an assault weapon, the following days are filled with headlines screaming about how many mass shootings per week we are suffering, with the unspoken but deliberate implication these mass shootings all involve assault weapons.

The fact is, the vast majority of mass shootings do NOT involve an assault weapons ban.


Handguns are the most common weapon type used in mass shootings in the United States, with a total of 151 different handguns being used in 103 incidents between 1982 and November 2022. These figures are calculated from a total of 137 reported cases over this period, meaning handguns are involved in about 75 percent of mass shootings.


Here is the definition of a mass shooting: Mass shooting | Definition, Statistics, Weapons, & Locations

mass shooting, also called active shooter incident, as defined by the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), an event in which one or more individuals are “actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area. Implicit in this definition is the shooter’s use of a firearm.” The FBI has not set a minimum number of casualties to qualify an event as a mass shooting, but U.S. statute (the Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act of 2012) defines a “mass killing” as “3 or more killings in a single incident.”


It is my opinion an Assault Weapons Ban is theater for the rubes which has little to no effect on the gun violence problem in the United States.

Fire away!

You won't be the one who comes and tries to take it, puss lips!!
 
Let's not get dragged down into a stupid argument of what an "assault weapon" is. An assault weapon is whatever Congress decides it is, and to argue about how stupid it is they include one kind of gun and not another is a waste of time.

In 1994, Congress passed an AWB: Text of H.R. 4296 (103rd): Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act (Placed on Calendar in the Senate version) - GovTrack.us

The AWB also banned large capacity magazines, though existing large capacity magazines were grandfathered. You could still buy and sell grandfathered magazines.

It is my opinion that the AWB had a negligible impact on the gun homicide rate in America.

The 1994 AWB expired in 2004.

I imagine any future AWB will have a longer list of "assault weapons", and will police large capacity magazines more thoroughly.

Now let's get down to the meat and potatoes of why this is an exercise in futility.

First and foremost, 99 percent of all gun homicides do not involve an assault weapon.

Assault weapon shootings make splashy headlines. Lots of blood and sadness.

The press tries to connect every mass shooting to assault weapons. Every time there is a mass shooting involving an assault weapon, the following days are filled with headlines screaming about how many mass shootings per week we are suffering, with the unspoken but deliberate implication these mass shootings all involve assault weapons.

The fact is, the vast majority of mass shootings do NOT involve an assault weapons ban.


Handguns are the most common weapon type used in mass shootings in the United States, with a total of 151 different handguns being used in 103 incidents between 1982 and November 2022. These figures are calculated from a total of 137 reported cases over this period, meaning handguns are involved in about 75 percent of mass shootings.


Here is the definition of a mass shooting: Mass shooting | Definition, Statistics, Weapons, & Locations

mass shooting, also called active shooter incident, as defined by the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), an event in which one or more individuals are “actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area. Implicit in this definition is the shooter’s use of a firearm.” The FBI has not set a minimum number of casualties to qualify an event as a mass shooting, but U.S. statute (the Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act of 2012) defines a “mass killing” as “3 or more killings in a single incident.”


It is my opinion an Assault Weapons Ban is theater for the rubes which has little to no effect on the gun violence problem in the United States.

Fire away!
Guno, you need to post your rant in the appropriate forum.
 
It won't go like the last one when you had a predominately Fudd boomer class kowtowing to the NRA's line of BS....No more.

Our so-called "leaders" are of a criminal class that would make the Mafia blush so why would we even bother with any edict they foist upon us?

I prefer to be ungovernable. ;)
 
Let's not get dragged down into a stupid argument of what an "assault weapon" is. An assault weapon is whatever Congress decides it is, and to argue about how stupid it is they include one kind of gun and not another is a waste of time.

In 1994, Congress passed an AWB: Text of H.R. 4296 (103rd): Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act (Placed on Calendar in the Senate version) - GovTrack.us

The AWB also banned large capacity magazines, though existing large capacity magazines were grandfathered. You could still buy and sell grandfathered magazines.

It is my opinion that the AWB had a negligible impact on the gun homicide rate in America.

The 1994 AWB expired in 2004.

I imagine any future AWB will have a longer list of "assault weapons", and will police large capacity magazines more thoroughly.

Now let's get down to the meat and potatoes of why this is an exercise in futility.

First and foremost, 99 percent of all gun homicides do not involve an assault weapon.

Assault weapon shootings make splashy headlines. Lots of blood and sadness.

The press tries to connect every mass shooting to assault weapons. Every time there is a mass shooting involving an assault weapon, the following days are filled with headlines screaming about how many mass shootings per week we are suffering, with the unspoken but deliberate implication these mass shootings all involve assault weapons.

The fact is, the vast majority of mass shootings do NOT involve an assault weapons ban.


Handguns are the most common weapon type used in mass shootings in the United States, with a total of 151 different handguns being used in 103 incidents between 1982 and November 2022. These figures are calculated from a total of 137 reported cases over this period, meaning handguns are involved in about 75 percent of mass shootings.


Here is the definition of a mass shooting: Mass shooting | Definition, Statistics, Weapons, & Locations

mass shooting, also called active shooter incident, as defined by the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), an event in which one or more individuals are “actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area. Implicit in this definition is the shooter’s use of a firearm.” The FBI has not set a minimum number of casualties to qualify an event as a mass shooting, but U.S. statute (the Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act of 2012) defines a “mass killing” as “3 or more killings in a single incident.”


It is my opinion an Assault Weapons Ban is theater for the rubes which has little to no effect on the gun violence problem in the United States.

Fire away!

The first one wasnt so I wouldnt expect it to work this time around.
 
Let's not get dragged down into a stupid argument of what an "assault weapon" is.

You should have just said I don't want my narrative to be disrupted by the facts because I think facts are stupid and may disrupt my narrative, so don't insert facts into my narrative.

That would have been the intellectually honest thing to say.
 

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