World drought and Global Warming

[frigidweirdo]

Northern Africa

Tunisia goes thirsty as repeated droughts raise concerns

Ethiopia hit by worst drought in decades

"Ethiopia hit by worst drought in decades"

India

India drought: '330 million people affected' - BBC News

"
India drought: '330 million people affected'"


Curfew in Indian tech hub over deadly water protests

Southern Africa

Zimbabwe's Robert Mugabe declares drought disaster - BBC News

"Zimbabwe's President Robert Mugabe has declared a state of disaster in rural parts of the country hit by a drought."

There appears to be a lot of drought in the world at present, Southern Africa is suffering, Northern Africa is suffering, India is suffering too. Is this the effect of Global Warming? The effect of El Niño? Both, how much of this is natural and how much of this is man made?

Drought has existed in these places before. However having drought affecting so many people at the same time is going to cause a massive strain on the world soon.

 

[theHawk]

There has been "global warming" since 12,000 or so years. It's perfectly natural and there have been many times in Earth's history that it was hotter than it is now. So what exactly are you afraid of?

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

There were droughts before the supposed 'global warming' even started. Worse than these too. Global warming is bullshit.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The only salvation is to turn the economy over to the EnviroMarxists perpetrating the scam

 

[Penelope]

So many in denial. Trump believes in it when its serving him, otherwise he denies it.

Donald Trump cites global warming as reason to build his Atlantic wall in Co Clare

He has called global warming a “hoax” and a “con job” in the past.

(snip)

Now, the company has filed a planning application with Clare County Council – complete with a 242 page Environmental Impact Statement prepared by an Irish consultancy firm - for the wall to be built.

The application, first reported today by Politico, cites local regulations pertaining to “rising sea levels and increased storm frequency and wave energy associated with global warming” as cause for the wall to be built.

The company’s concern for global warming is at odds with Trump’s own views on the subject, which he has called a “con job” and a “hoax” in the past.

Donald Trump cites global warming as reason to build his Atlantic wall in Co Clare

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

The only salvation is to turn the economy over to the EnviroMarxists perpetrating the scam

It is a quasi-religious movement. Good choice of wording. I was going to ask if you meant 'solution' instead of 'salvation'....read it again, thought about it and nah....salvation works better.

 

[Divine Wind]

So many in denial. Trump believes in it when its serving him, otherwise he denies it.

Donald Trump cites global warming as reason to build his Atlantic wall in Co Clare

He has called global warming a “hoax” and a “con job” in the past.

(snip)

Now, the company has filed a planning application with Clare County Council – complete with a 242 page Environmental Impact Statement prepared by an Irish consultancy firm - for the wall to be built.

The application, first reported today by Politico, cites local regulations pertaining to “rising sea levels and increased storm frequency and wave energy associated with global warming” as cause for the wall to be built.

The company’s concern for global warming is at odds with Trump’s own views on the subject, which he has called a “con job” and a “hoax” in the past.

Donald Trump cites global warming as reason to build his Atlantic wall in Co Clare

Another reason to distrust all politicians.

As it is, nature loves balance. If too many people are causing an imbalance in the ecosystem, nature will reduce the number of people thus restoring balance. Problem solved, nothing to worry about.

 

[Old Rocks]

There were droughts before the supposed 'global warming' even started. Worse than these too. Global warming is bullshit.

What is bullshit is you ignoramouses denying the reality of the melting of the cryosphere, the warming of the Arctic, and believing that we can add the amount of GHGs to the atmosphere that we have without consequences.

Yes, the Earth has been warmer and colder in the past. And it is always changing. However, the rate of change is critical. In times of rapid change, we see extinctions in the geological record. And the present rate of change is equal to that of the prior major extinction periods.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

So many in denial. Trump believes in it when its serving him, otherwise he denies it.

Donald Trump cites global warming as reason to build his Atlantic wall in Co Clare

He has called global warming a “hoax” and a “con job” in the past.

(snip)

Now, the company has filed a planning application with Clare County Council – complete with a 242 page Environmental Impact Statement prepared by an Irish consultancy firm - for the wall to be built.

The application, first reported today by Politico, cites local regulations pertaining to “rising sea levels and increased storm frequency and wave energy associated with global warming” as cause for the wall to be built.

The company’s concern for global warming is at odds with Trump’s own views on the subject, which he has called a “con job” and a “hoax” in the past.

Donald Trump cites global warming as reason to build his Atlantic wall in Co Clare

Another reason to distrust all politicians.

As it is, nature loves balance. If too many people are causing an imbalance in the ecosystem, nature will reduce the number of people thus restoring balance. Problem solved, nothing to worry about.

There is no overpopulation problem. That's a myth started by Malthus.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

There were droughts before the supposed 'global warming' even started. Worse than these too. Global warming is bullshit.

What is bullshit is you ignoramouses denying the reality of the melting of the cryosphere, the warming of the Arctic, and believing that we can add the amount of GHGs to the atmosphere that we have without consequences.

Yes, the Earth has been warmer and colder in the past. And it is always changing. However, the rate of change is critical. In times of rapid change, we see extinctions in the geological record. And the present rate of change is equal to that of the prior major extinction periods.

The climate will change as it always has, chicken little. The sky is not falling.

 

[Old Rocks]

The only salvation is to turn the economy over to the EnviroMarxists perpetrating the scam

It is a quasi-religious movement. Good choice of wording. I was going to ask if you meant 'solution' instead of 'salvation'....read it again, thought about it and nah....salvation works better.

No, people with beliefs like yours are those that have religious convictions. That is, faith, not facts, guide your belief.

The facts are that the Earth is warming very rapidly. You belief is that this either doesn't matter, or that it is all made up, in spite of the evidence the scientists have been presenting for the last 100 years. The science is based on the facts of physics, absorption spectra of GHGs, observations of the warming, both from ground based stations and satellites, and the reduction of the cryosphere worldwide.

Your belief, that this is not happening, that mankind cannot affect the Earth, is based on nothing but faith, all evidence is to the contrary to your belief, but you have faith. LOL

 

[Dragonlady]

There were droughts before the supposed 'global warming' even started. Worse than these too. Global warming is bullshit.

What is bullshit is you ignoramouses denying the reality of the melting of the cryosphere, the warming of the Arctic, and believing that we can add the amount of GHGs to the atmosphere that we have without consequences.

Yes, the Earth has been warmer and colder in the past. And it is always changing. However, the rate of change is critical. In times of rapid change, we see extinctions in the geological record. And the present rate of change is equal to that of the prior major extinction periods.

The climate will change as it always has, chicken little. The sky is not falling.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

 

[Old Rocks]

So many in denial. Trump believes in it when its serving him, otherwise he denies it.

Donald Trump cites global warming as reason to build his Atlantic wall in Co Clare

He has called global warming a “hoax” and a “con job” in the past.

(snip)

Now, the company has filed a planning application with Clare County Council – complete with a 242 page Environmental Impact Statement prepared by an Irish consultancy firm - for the wall to be built.

The application, first reported today by Politico, cites local regulations pertaining to “rising sea levels and increased storm frequency and wave energy associated with global warming” as cause for the wall to be built.

The company’s concern for global warming is at odds with Trump’s own views on the subject, which he has called a “con job” and a “hoax” in the past.

Donald Trump cites global warming as reason to build his Atlantic wall in Co Clare

Another reason to distrust all politicians.

As it is, nature loves balance. If too many people are causing an imbalance in the ecosystem, nature will reduce the number of people thus restoring balance. Problem solved, nothing to worry about.

There is no overpopulation problem. That's a myth started by Malthus.

LOL Damn, you are a stupid one. No population problem? Major problems right now simply providing safe water to a major portion of the worlds population. One major breadbasket get knocked out by drought or flooding, and people starve. Wildlife disappearing as their habitat is destroyed. Lordy, you are purposely blind.

 

[Old Rocks]

There were droughts before the supposed 'global warming' even started. Worse than these too. Global warming is bullshit.

What is bullshit is you ignoramouses denying the reality of the melting of the cryosphere, the warming of the Arctic, and believing that we can add the amount of GHGs to the atmosphere that we have without consequences.

Yes, the Earth has been warmer and colder in the past. And it is always changing. However, the rate of change is critical. In times of rapid change, we see extinctions in the geological record. And the present rate of change is equal to that of the prior major extinction periods.

The climate will change as it always has, chicken little. The sky is not falling.

Are you fondling rosary beads as you chant this? Talk about religion with no basis. Even the Pope and most sane religious groups now accept we are having a negative affect on our environment.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Back in the 70's they were telling us the entire globe was going to freeze over....when that didn't happen they came up with another scare tactic: the globe is going to burn up, and soon. It's bullshit. And let's say they are right that eventually the earth will burn up.... Well eventually the suns going to burn out....but it doesn't look like it'll be doing that in any of our lifetimes or that we can stop it. One day, human life and all other life will cease to exist....but not today or in the foreseeable future.

 

[Nia88]

Still cannot believe people keep denying climate change. Some folks here think they are more knowledgeable than scientists.

 

[Divine Wind]

There is no overpopulation problem. That's a myth started by Malthus.

I thought you were ignoring me for proving you're a homophobic liar?

Since you've lied so much before, I wouldn't trust you if you said the sky was blue and the ground was brown.

As for overpopulation, you're either lying or ignorant. Our civilization, while fairly robust, is still a house of cards. As Hurricane Katrina showed, break the system down and not only will lawlessness quickly break out, but without the supply system, people will quickly run out of food and water. Even people living in rural areas will be affected if trains and 18-wheelers stop running for 24 hours.

When President Bush signed the biodiesel bill and farmers started turning their corn into fuel, the price of corn quickly shot over the ability of poorer nations to pay. Starvation seemed imminent. There were other factors, but this seemingly "eco-friendly" change in policy had a noticeable effect on feeding the global population. While the current system is supporting most of the world's population, the evidence shows how quickly we can go from "sustainable" to "overpopulated".

https://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/ifdp/2009/967/ifdp967.pdf
However, in absolute terms, these are sizeable effects. We estimate that the increase in world biofuels production accounts for just over 12% of the rise in global food prices, with increased U.S. biofuel production accounting for roughly 60% of this total increase.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Still cannot believe people keep denying climate change. Some folks here think they are more knowledgeable than scientists.

We don't doubt 'climate change', we doubt the chicken little overexaggeration that the sky is falling.We are all supposed to be dead for a few years now according to past chicken little crusades from the cult of global warming. It's a joke and you are a joke if you buy into it.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

There is no overpopulation problem. That's a myth started by Malthus.

I thought you were ignoring me for proving you're a homophobic liar?

Since you've lied so much before, I wouldn't trust you if you said the sky was blue and the ground was brown.

As for overpopulation, you're either lying or ignorant. Our civilization, while fairly robust, is still a house of cards. As Hurricane Katrina showed, break the system down and not only will lawlessness quickly break out, but without the supply system, people will quickly run out of food and water. Even people living in rural areas will be affected if trains and 18-wheelers stop running for 24 hours.

When President Bush signed the biodiesel bill and farmers started turning their corn into fuel, the price of corn quickly shot over the ability of poorer nations to pay. Starvation seemed imminent. There were other factors, but this seemingly "eco-friendly" change in policy had a noticeable effect on feeding the global population. While the current system is supporting most of the world's population, the evidence shows how quickly we can go from "sustainable" to "overpopulated".

https://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/ifdp/2009/967/ifdp967.pdf
However, in absolute terms, these are sizeable effects. We estimate that the increase in world biofuels production accounts for just over 12% of the rise in global food prices, with increased U.S. biofuel production accounting for roughly 60% of this total increase.

You're an idiot. As always. We could fit the entire population of the world in the state of Texas. The math has already been done and it is solid. You're going to lose this argument like you lose all the rest you have. I'm game to smack your dumb ass down again.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Here is the math for you:
"Texas: 1 square mile = 5280 x 5280 square feet = 27,878,400 square feet. So 268,581 square miles = 7,487,608,550,400. For simplicity say 7.5 x 10^12. That divided by 7 x 10^9 is indeed over 1000 square feet per person. So if we made one giant one-story compound over Texas, land, water, and all, we would each get a 1,000 square foot unit."