Woke Teacher ATTACKS Student—FIRED & Sued!

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Student Free Speech Rights in Public K-12 Schools
As the U.S. Supreme Court famously said, “t can hardly be argued that either students or teachers shed their
constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate.”1 Students generally may
express their opinions in K-12 school settings, even on controversial subjects, unless their conduct will
materially and substantially disrupt the work and discipline of the school or invade the rights of others. Schools
generally cannot curtail students’ speech just to avoid discomfort or inconvenience created by the airing of
unpopular views or beliefs. Protected rights in school include not just verbal speech, but symbolic acts or
expressive conduct (for example, wearing a patch on a backpack) and generally apply both in and out of the
classroom. Conversely, bullying, harassment, and threats aimed at teachers or other students are forms of
expression that schools generally may regulate, whether the expression occurs on or off campus.

https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/media/legal-alert-oag-2023-03.pdf

Too bad that speech is not dress code applicable. I took a semester long class in graduate school to be a school administrator, and these topics were covered in depth. The dress code is enforceable if it plainly says no head coverings.

 

[Moonglow]

Because he's wearing a hat with a message she doesn't like? Naw, I disagree. She should check her politics at the door and do what she's paid to do. Teach the subject matter.

Hats off in the classroom.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I didn’t say that. There is nothing in the video that clearly suggests politics are behind the teacher’s demand. Nothing.
I would not be surprised if the hat’s message was the instigator but we don’t know that based on the video. And the video is the only evidence available.

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SMDH





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[Moonglow]

Teachers do not dictate school policies or dress codes. Do you know what any of those were?

Bullshit if they don't.

 

[Concerned American]

Night traffic school classes don't count. Neither does drug rehab.

You're trolling late today--see post #76.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I wear a cap at the dinner table when dining out.
I'm willing to bet she would have had an issue if MAGA was on his
T shirt also. Probably has an issue with an American flag on a t shirt..

I bet you wouldn't if the restaurant had a dress code, as some do.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

I don’t know, I agree. Which is exactly why I can’t side against the teacher based on the video.
You’ll have to link to the legislation that disallows a teacher from applying discretion for headgear. Judges and teachers have that discretion in Maryland and maryland is the dysfunctional California of the East. I doubt it would be different in CA.

Well, there’s a big problem here to your point . ..in the US colleges there are plenty of Jewish and Muslim students who wear headgear.


Look at the class … there is no standard uniform. So your reaching… but even if the student is not allowed to wear a hat the teacher reacted in a non-professional manner and one that can actually get her in trouble because of her physical altercation. But again we have to go back to the point that you will see Jewish men and Muslim men and women wearing headgear in college class rooms.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

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A little late to argue this.

B got fired and is being sued.

I bet she's doing some re-evaluating of her cult behavior now. Time to make it hurt where it counts -- the wallet.


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[RoshawnMarkwees]

Which is pretty much what I said. To take sides without that important information is wrong. But I can say her behavior in the situation, whatever it was, did strongly appear to be way into the area of extreme.

Only in response to the student’s obstinance. The student put his objection above the rest of that class’s right to instruction. He interfered with their paid right to be taught. She was trying to restore order. He should have complied and filed a grievance afterward. He put himself above the class.

 

[Concerned American]

Too bad that speech is not dress code applicable. I took a semester long class in graduate school to be a school administrator, and these topics were covered in depth. The dress code is enforceable if it plainly says no head coverings.

Take it up with the CA supreme court--that was their ruling over twenty years ago. Troll on.

 

[Meister]

I bet you wouldn't if the restaurant had a dress code, as some do.

Admiral, where I live in northern Idaho, I can only think of one place....possibly
that would have an issue. I've never eaten there as the wine and steaks are ridiculously over priced.
Everywhere else, there is no issue on dress code.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Well, there’s a big problem here to your point . ..in California there are plenty of Jewish and Muslim students who wear headgear.


Look at the class … there is no standard uniform. So your reaching… but even if the student is not allowed to wear a hat the teacher reacted in a non-professional manner and one that can actually get her in trouble because of her physical altercation. But again we have to go back to the point that you will see Jewish men and Muslim men and women wearing headgear in California college class rooms.

Your point about Jewish and Muslim headgear agrees with my point. We have the same rules in courtrooms here in Maryland.
If the hat was a religious thing it would be different. But it apparently wasn’t.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

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I'm sorry to hear that your eyesight is going.

But the sleaze was fired and is being sued, so I'm happy.

I mean, if kids can't wear hats, I'd be pretty insistent that teachers need to dress in something other than nightclub wear.


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Apparently this thread was combined with another. My responses have been based on nothing but the video which was all that was presented. By the video, no conclusion about MAGA could be drawn and the student was in the wrong at least ethically.

 

[Scoutster]

Should be fired!

 

[Rambunctious]

Why is a student wearing a hat in class?

When was the last time you've been in a classroom???
1945???

 

[Foxfyre]

Only in response to the student’s obstinance. The student put his objection above the rest of that class’s right to instruction. He interfered with their paid right to be taught. She was trying to restore order. He should have complied and filed a grievance afterward. He put himself above the class.

You are drawing assumptions based on a very short video clip that gives us no information to use to make such assumptions.

 

[Scoutster]

When was the last time you've been in a classroom???
1945???

nut jobs from the left will always come up with excuses for nut jobs from their side. Teacher should be fired and all certifications revoked.

 

[Concerned American]

Only in response to the student’s obstinance. The student put his objection above the rest of that class’s right to instruction. He interfered with their paid right to be taught. She was trying to restore order. He should have complied and filed a grievance afterward. He put himself above the class.

I disagree. With the limited info available, you can't make that determination. The demeanor and physicality of the teacher's response leads me to believe that she was bound to enforce her own rules. I can't be 100% sure of that either. The OP says that she was fired and sued, but I didn't see anything that supported that either.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Your point about Jewish and Muslim headgear agrees with my point. We have the same rules in courtrooms here in Maryland.
If the hat was a religious thing it would be different. But it apparently wasn’t.

still a problem…a hat can also be worn for religious purposes to cover one’s hair due to a religious view of not wanting to show hair.



What also is a bigger problem? Is the teacher overreacting, including getting physical with the student. That is a fireable offense and something they can get her in trouble legally beyond the school.

 

[Zincwarrior]

When was the last time you've been in a classroom???
1945???

At least 1946.