“Woke” and “KKK Racists” are pretty much best friends

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Been making this point for decades. Diversity is democrat for segregation.
The real white supremacists today are white democrats. They believe minorities (especially blacks) are inferior and can’t manage without help.
Black Americans are nearly 100% self-segregating, culturally and otherwise, making them the New Klux Klan.

 

[JoeB131]

1. Nobody really cares about your anecdotes
2. I don't believe them anyways, or I think you'd exaggerate them or make them up given your track record.

Your concession is duly noted. I knew you couldn't refute the point.

3. I've seen many instances where one race seems to dominate.. and it's not because of racism, it's because they have a culture or norms that either value it more just produce better products.

Or they just look out for their own. But keep trying to rationalize your racism. You can't succeed because of DEI, and you can't get laid because of feminism.

No this country was built on us doing what everyone was already doing over here... winning wars and either taking land or retaliating against aggressive native tribes...

In short, it's okay when white people do this shit, because we're special.

So your Grandpa was a lazy slacker who just sat back and was given everything because he was white? Wow, so you're some sort of trust fund baby? Pretty much all whites had to work their asses off back then.. everyone did.

But here's the thing, black folks worked just as hard, and had to deal with daily racism that Grandpa off the boat didn't have to deal with. Oh, I'm sure someone called him a Kraut once or twice, but he got callbacks and black people didn't unless there was a World War and all the other white people got called away.

And when the war was over, guess who got fired?

Many times it was good for humanity. I'd say the Spanish that came and took down the horrible, savage tribes in South America that would murder infants and rip their hearts out did a good deed for humanity.

Ooooh, your racism is showing again.

The absolute worst crimes against humanity have been committed by White People. We can unfortunately start with Grandpa's relatives who didn't leave the old country.

 

[gmeyers1944]

They aren't criminals.

If they snuck across the border, THEY ARE CRIMINALS!

 

[Mac1958]

The race problem will not be fixed unless and until (a) both ends can honestly hold their own side accountable for their own behaviors, and (b) both ends stop over-reacting and over-compensating when they get power.

Regardless of the issue, neither end of this argument seems to understand that THE WAY you approach a problem can be just as important, or even MORE important, than approaching the problem in the FIRST place.

The Dems played a big role in the rise of Trumpism when they weaponized PC/Identity Politics under Obama. Now, of course, the worst of MAGA has more influence. Wash, rinse, repeat. Back & forth. We don't fuckin' learn.

 

[Hafar1014]

It's easy to be "moral" when you go to bed with a full belly and warm place to sleep.



Not really. The fact that you think people who want to make things fairer are as bad as the ones who want to keep things unequal.

Welfare is the main cause of poverty

 

[Muhammed]

Um, wow, really?

Here's the reality. Everything is seen through race in this country, with white people enjoying the benefits of privilege.

That's wrong. Only you racists see things like that. Most people don't see the world through race colored glasses. Race is the last thing on their mind.

Only racists are obsessed with race. Normal people are not.

 

[JoeB131]

The race problem will not be fixed unless and until (a) both ends can honestly hold their own side accountable for their own behaviors, and (b) both ends stop over-reacting and over-compensating when they get power.

Regardless of the issue, neither end of this argument seems to understand that THE WAY you approach a problem can be just as important, or even MORE important, than approaching the problem in the FIRST place.

The Dems played a big role in the rise of Trumpism when they weaponized PC/Identity Politics under Obama. Now, of course, the worst of MAGA has more influence. Wash, rinse, repeat. Back & forth. We don't fuckin' learn.

Ah, here's the Vichy Mac who blames minorities for being too uppity and demanding what he takes for granted as a white person.

Mac doesn't hate Trump's racism, he just hates that it makes him look bad.

We haven't done enough to address racism in this country, period.

 

[JoeB131]

That's wrong. Only you racists see things like that. Most people don't see the world through race colored glasses. Race is the last thing on their mind.

Only racists are obsessed with race. Normal people are not.

Yeah, right, but then you guys are the ones obsessed with DEI, or immigration, or a "White Woman In Peril" crime story.

 

[midcan5]

LOL These imaginary comparisons or bedfellows are kinda funny. Reminds one of children whose only come back is 'no, you are'. How does the thread poster know that or why do they assume that. Hmmm, because being sorta dumb and biased it fits their limited mental political mindset.

But why is being woke a negative for some. Imagine if the American voter were 'woke' would they elect a felon as president? Hmmm. Tough topic. Would the Christians and other religious among us elect a man who caged children? Hard question, what would Jesus say. Are their values so twisted evil becomes a good.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

LOL These imaginary comparisons or bedfellows are kinda funny. Reminds one of children whose only come back is 'no, you are'. How does the thread poster know that or why do they assume that. Hmmm, because being sorta dumb and biased it fits their limited mental political mindset.

But why is being woke a negative for some. Imagine if the American voter were 'woke' would they elect a felon as president? Hmmm. Tough topic. Would the Christians and other religious among us elect a man who caged children? Hard question, what would Jesus say. Are their values so twisted evil becomes a good.

Imagine if the American voter were 'woke' would they elect a felon as president?

No. They would elect an unqualified blackish man as president who could read a decent teleprompter.
A blackish man who would cage children.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Welfare is the main cause of poverty

That is absolutely true!
And that’s what democrats want.

 

[Independent thinker]

Um, wow, really?

Here's the reality. Everything is seen through race in this country, with white people enjoying the benefits of privilege.

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What the hell does "privileged" even mean? There are lots and lots of poor white people who don't feel "privileged" at all.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Imagine if the American voter were 'woke' would they elect a felon as president?

No. They would elect an unqualified blackish man as president who could read a decent teleprompter.
A blackish man who would cage children.

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They did. They elected a man who raped his own daughter.

.

 

[gmeyers1944]

LOL These imaginary comparisons or bedfellows are kinda funny. Reminds one of children whose only come back is 'no, you are'. How does the thread poster know that or why do they assume that. Hmmm, because being sorta dumb and biased it fits their limited mental political mindset.

But why is being woke a negative for some. Imagine if the American voter were 'woke' would they elect a felon as president? Hmmm. Tough topic. Would the Christians and other religious among us elect a man who caged children? Hard question, what would Jesus say. Are their values so twisted evil becomes a good.

Trump's felony conviction was made up of a mjsdemeanor that had exceeded its statute of limitation. It was President Obama that caged children, not Trump!

 

[JoeB131]

What the hell does "privileged" even mean? There are lots and lots of poor white people who don't feel "privileged" at all.

I'm sure they don't.

But even a poor white person who has been to prison is more likely to get a job interview than black man with a spotless record.

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That's white privilege.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Your concession is duly noted. I knew you couldn't refute the point.

A mere anecdote isn't a point.

Or they just look out for their own. But keep trying to rationalize your racism. You can't succeed because of DEI, and you can't get laid because of feminism.

Ad homs.

In short, it's okay when white people do this shit, because we're special.

No, it's fine for anyone in a free-for-all to attempt to win wars and take land, we just won. We were "special" not because of our race, but because of our advanced culture. But you only view it through race, like a KKK member.

But here's the thing, black folks worked just as hard, and had to deal with daily racism that Grandpa off the boat didn't have to deal with. Oh, I'm sure someone called him a Kraut once or twice, but he got callbacks and black people didn't unless there was a World War and all the other white people got called away.

I know that back when your grandpa was around you Democrats were making sure black people were beneath you.. and I've never heard anyone not acknowledge this history on either side, no matter what woke, CRT, BLM leftists claim. We're talking about what happens today.

Ooooh, your racism is showing again.

It's fact that natives in South America did horrible things. I simply state the fact. I notice that any time anything factually negative is said about another race, you ignore it, or pretend it doesn't exist and just call the person racist. It's a pathetic defense strategy. And just for the record: Muslims have very high incest rates, Africa had and also has cannibalism, young American black men commit murder at an astronomically high rate compared to any other group, Native American tribes were aggressive and savage to each other and to settlers, and South American natives performed murderous rituals on young children. Those are all facts. You can tantrum all you want, it's just factual.

The absolute worst crimes against humanity have been committed by White People.

Prove it. I mean, I can name:

• Mao Zedong and The Chinese Great Leap Forward (45-80 million dead)
• Rwandan Genocide in Africa
• Pol Pot's Cambodian Genocide
• The Armenian Genocide
• The Muslim expansion and conquering of Asia, Turkey, Northern africa, Spain, France.
• The Japanese Nanjing Massacre, and Japan's Unit 731
• Ghengis Khan Mongol Empire (40 million deaths)
• North Korea's Kim Il-Sung
• Mengistu Mariam and his Red Terror
• Idi Amin of Uganda
• Aztecs murdering children in ritual sacrifices.
• The Atlantic Slave trade (blacks capturing other blacks), along with the Trans Saharan and Indian Ocean slave trades.

Of course I could keep going all day. All of this is just dumb though, because evil people exist everywhere, across all races. What is it about white skin that makes a Hitler or Stalin any different than a Khan or Zaedong?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

But even a poor white person who has been to prison is more likely to get a job interview than black man with a spotless record.

You're just making things up, as there's no way to know that.

 

[JoeB131]

No, it's fine for anyone in a free-for-all to attempt to win wars and take land, we just won. We were "special" not because of our race, but because of our advanced culture. But you only view it through race, like a KKK member.

I agree, advanced TECHNOLOGY allowed white people do some shitty things around the world.

I know that back when your grandpa was around you Democrats were making sure black people were beneath you.. and I've never heard anyone not acknowledge this history on either side, no matter what woke, CRT, BLM leftists claim. We're talking about what happens today.

Because it's not an accurate rendering of history, really. Republicans gave up on racial equality in 1876, when getting the all important RutherFraud B. Hayes in office after the people rejected him became more important than protecting the rights of black people.

Prove it. I mean, I can name:

• Mao Zedong and The Chinese Great Leap Forward (45-80 million dead)

Yeeah, when you lead with Bircher Propaganda like that, um, no one can take you seriously.

Now, my wife lived through the Great Famine (which killed 15 million people, not 80 million), but that wasn't an intentionally extermination, like Hitler's Germany.

It was a combination of natural disasters along with some bad policy choices.

Rwandan Genocide in Africa

Only about 500K people, nothing compared to Hitler or Stalin who killed millions, not to mention the near extermination of native Americans in the New World.

Pol Pot's Cambodian Genocide

About 1 million. Not even close to HItler and Stalin.

The Armenian Genocide

Committed by the imperial Turks, who were.. mostly white. Definitely Caucasian.

The Muslim expansion and conquering of Asia, Turkey, Northern africa, Spain, France.

No real death toll on that one. Thing about medieval warfare was that it wasn't that terribly bloody.

The Japanese Nanjing Massacre, and Japan's Unit 731

Japan were a bunch of bastards, but the thing about Japan was that it was emulating European imperialism.

Aztecs murdering children in ritual sacrifices.

Two points here. First, most of the people sacrificed in Aztec religious sacrifices were adult males, usually from enemy tribes. Secondly, these stories were VASTLY exagerated by the Spanish to justify their own abuses, which again, lead to a 75% drop in the Native population within 100 years of Columbus.

The Atlantic Slave trade (blacks capturing other blacks), along with the Trans Saharan and Indian Ocean slave trades.

You mean the slave trade that only existed because white people were buying?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

I agree, advanced TECHNOLOGY allowed white people do some shitty things around the world.

Yes. Our culture was superior in that aspect. If we had crossed the Atlantic and settled.. and Native Americans had machine guns.. they'd have used them. But, they didn't have better technology, because they weren't as advanced as we were in thought, science, etc. Western Civilization was (and still is for the time being) the best.

You mean the slave trade that only existed because white people were buying?

Is your claim that there was no slavery in Africa until the 1600's? (If so, you really need to get your money back for that history degree)

Is your claim also that white people were the only ones involved? (if so, again, get your money back) Because nearly all african slavery went to the Middle east, carribean, or South America. The United States were one of the lowest participants.

So, you have a LOT of people to spend tens to hundreds of posts and threads condemning before you get to any white Americans. Get to it.

 

[JoeB131]

Yes. Our culture was superior in that aspect. If we had crossed the Atlantic and settled.. and Native Americans had machine guns.. they'd have used them. But, they didn't have better technology, because they weren't as advanced as we were in thought, science, etc. Western Civilization was (and still is for the time being) the best.

Actually, they didn't wipe out the first settlers because they were LARGELY PEACEFUL.

Hey, remember the story of the first Thanksgiving and how the Indians helped the colonists not starve to death. What they don't tell you about is what followed, which was the systematic genocide of those tribes. Kind of puts a downer on that Turkey Dinner.

Is your claim that there was no slavery in Africa until the 1600's? (If so, you really need to get your money back for that history degree)

Nope. How about arguing about what I said.

Is your claim also that white people were the only ones involved? (if so, again, get your money back) Because nearly all african slavery went to the Middle east, carribean, or South America. The United States were one of the lowest participants.

I pointed out that white people CREATED THE MARKET for the wholesale kidnapping of people. That's quite different from some tribe who had slavery and slaves were more or less part of their communities.

What made the American Chattel Slavery system so egregious was its wholesale destruction of whole tribes and regions.

So, you have a LOT of people to spend tens to hundreds of posts and threads condemning before you get to any white Americans. Get to it.

Nope. I will condemn Americans for the shitty stuff they did, and how racists still try to excuse it.

EVERY LAST CONFEDERATE MEMORIAL NEEDS TO BE TORN DOWN.