With the heavy involvement of China and DPNK in Russia Versus Ukraine....is it reasonable to say that WW3 has already started?

[justoffal]

Been doing some reading in the miltary journals and news.....hoepfully the non propaganda ones. (Just had my head handed to me the other day because I didn't vet my sources lol)...will I ever learn??) I didn't realize how deeply involved North Korea was in the Russia<>Ukraine conflict....very heavily apparently up to and including 6,000 dead North Koreans. Large shipmemnts of Artillery hardware and hundreds of thousands of shells to go with it. China has stepped up its hardware and logistcal support and also has committed to buying even more Russian Hydrocarbons. Ukraine is now on the hostilities list of both Hungary and Slovakia for some complex reasons having to do with EU parlimentary voting https://www.euronews.com/2026/02/22...e-until-ukrainian-oil-supplies-resume.....not good at all. I mean how will the elected pick pockets of the EU parliament get their kickback bucks and boomerang benefits if Hungary votes against???? Then it struck me....

This thing is growing....not slowing. You would think that the loss of 1.2 million Russian Soldiers would put Putin right out on his ass in the next Russian Election cycle....I mean that is enormous...unless of course the number is fictititious which is highly possible.

Ukraine ain't no angel here either folks....sure this is a David and Goliath struggle but did it ever occur to you that sometimes David can be a little prick?

Additonally I keep hearing that Russia is suffering economically and yet they are expanding their Military at a very Rapid rate and actually have more tanks now than they did at the begining of the conflict albeit the older models that have been pulled from retirement I guess...but still.

Soooo what's next here folks....do you see this thing ending or exploding?

JO

 

[shockedcanadian]

Yes

 

[d0gbreath]

Been doing some reading in the miltary journals and news.....hoepfully the non propaganda ones. (Just had my head handed to me the other day because I didn't vet my sources lol)...will I ever learn??) I didn't realize how deeply involved North Korea was in the Russia<>Ukraine conflict....very heavily apparently up to and including 6,000 dead North Koreans. Large shipmemnts of Artillery hardware and hundreds of thousands of shells to go with it. China has stepped up its hardware and logistcal support and also has committed to buying even more Russian Hydrocarbons. Ukraine is now on the hostilities list of both Hungary and Slovakia for some complex reasons having to do with EU parlimentary voting https://www.euronews.com/2026/02/22...e-until-ukrainian-oil-supplies-resume.....not good at all. I mean how will the elected pick pockets of the EU parliament get their kickback bucks and boomerang benefits if Hungary votes against???? Then it struck me....

This thing is growing....not slowing. You would think that the loss of 1.2 million Russian Soldiers would put Putin right out on his ass in the next Russian Election cycle....I mean that is enormous...unless of course the number is fictititious which is highly possible.

Ukraine ain't no angel here either folks....sure this is a David and Goliath struggle but did it ever occur to you that sometimes David can be a little prick?

Additonally I keep hearing that Russia is suffering economically and yet they are expanding their Military at a very Rapid rate and actually have more tanks now than they did at the begining of the conflict albeit the older models that have been pulled from retirement I guess...but still.

Soooo what's next here folks....do you see this thing ending or exploding?

JO

To end, one side would have to surrender. Peace talks about a mutual agreement never work in a war. I doubt that it will explode, or get bigger.

 

[M14 Shooter]

No.
When the Russians and China start shooting at NATO, and the US decides to prosecute -that- war along Russia's / China's Pacific coast, you'll have the start of WW3.

 

[theHawk]

Been doing some reading in the miltary journals and news.....hoepfully the non propaganda ones. (Just had my head handed to me the other day because I didn't vet my sources lol)...will I ever learn??) I didn't realize how deeply involved North Korea was in the Russia<>Ukraine conflict....very heavily apparently up to and including 6,000 dead North Koreans. Large shipmemnts of Artillery hardware and hundreds of thousands of shells to go with it. China has stepped up its hardware and logistcal support and also has committed to buying even more Russian Hydrocarbons. Ukraine is now on the hostilities list of both Hungary and Slovakia for some complex reasons having to do with EU parlimentary voting https://www.euronews.com/2026/02/22...e-until-ukrainian-oil-supplies-resume.....not good at all. I mean how will the elected pick pockets of the EU parliament get their kickback bucks and boomerang benefits if Hungary votes against???? Then it struck me....

This thing is growing....not slowing. You would think that the loss of 1.2 million Russian Soldiers would put Putin right out on his ass in the next Russian Election cycle....I mean that is enormous...unless of course the number is fictititious which is highly possible.

Ukraine ain't no angel here either folks....sure this is a David and Goliath struggle but did it ever occur to you that sometimes David can be a little prick?

Additonally I keep hearing that Russia is suffering economically and yet they are expanding their Military at a very Rapid rate and actually have more tanks now than they did at the begining of the conflict albeit the older models that have been pulled from retirement I guess...but still.

Soooo what's next here folks....do you see this thing ending or exploding?

JO

You honestly think the Russians have lost 1.2 million soldiers?

 

[shockedcanadian]

No.
When the Russians and Chinese start shooting at NATO, and the US decides to prosecute -that- war along Russia's / China's Pacific coast, you'll have the start of WW3.

The concept of "no limits war" (无界战争) as an ideology in China, particularly in relation to the United States, is a strategic approach that emphasizes the use of a wide range of means—military, economic, cyber, informational, and diplomatic—without strict adherence to traditional boundaries or rules during conflicts. This approach suggests that during times of peace, certain elements of this strategy may still be active, aiming to subtly undermine or exert influence over the adversary.


In Chinese strategic thought, especially as articulated by some military and strategic analysts, "no limits war" reflects an understanding that modern conflict is multi-dimensional and that the distinction between war and peace is increasingly blurred. This could involve:

• Cyber operations targeting critical infrastructure
• Economic measures such as trade restrictions or technology bans
• Disinformation campaigns to influence public opinion
• Diplomatic pressure and influence operations
• Military preparedness and modernization, including asymmetric tactics

The ideology promotes the idea that China should be prepared to engage in various forms of conflict simultaneously and seamlessly, without being constrained by traditional notions of warfare boundaries. During peace times, this could mean maintaining a state of readiness or conducting activities that advance strategic objectives covertly or subtly.


It's important to note that this ideology is part of broader strategic concepts within China's military and strategic community, often associated with "unrestricted warfare" (无限战争), which was popularized by Chinese military thinkers in the 1990s.



In short, WWIII began the moment the U.S approved Chinas entry into the WTO.

 

[Deadstick]

News flash! It started with the brutal NATO attack on the former Yugoslavia when a drunken Court Jester was masquerading as the Russian President, NATO and it's handlers knew they couldn't miss the chance to weaken Russia because the Russians at that time were not in a position to do much about it, if Putin had been President at that time it would never have happened, since then it's been one Western instigated conflict after another.

 

[justoffal]

You honestly think the Russians have lost 1.2 million soldiers?

Seems too ridiculous to believe actually.

 

[drudge X]

No, China will stay on the sideline as usual. China doesn't want to lose face more than necessary. Israeli bombing against Iran and the US raid to capture Maduro showed China's most sophisticated radar system is worthless.

 

[Invisibleflash]

Been doing some reading in the miltary journals and news.....hoepfully the non propaganda ones. (Just had my head handed to me the other day because I didn't vet my sources lol)...will I ever learn??) I didn't realize how deeply involved North Korea was in the Russia<>Ukraine conflict....very heavily apparently up to and including 6,000 dead North Koreans. Large shipmemnts of Artillery hardware and hundreds of thousands of shells to go with it. China has stepped up its hardware and logistcal support and also has committed to buying even more Russian Hydrocarbons. Ukraine is now on the hostilities list of both Hungary and Slovakia for some complex reasons having to do with EU parlimentary voting https://www.euronews.com/2026/02/22...e-until-ukrainian-oil-supplies-resume.....not good at all. I mean how will the elected pick pockets of the EU parliament get their kickback bucks and boomerang benefits if Hungary votes against???? Then it struck me....

This thing is growing....not slowing. You would think that the loss of 1.2 million Russian Soldiers would put Putin right out on his ass in the next Russian Election cycle....I mean that is enormous...unless of course the number is fictititious which is highly possible.

Ukraine ain't no angel here either folks....sure this is a David and Goliath struggle but did it ever occur to you that sometimes David can be a little prick?

Additonally I keep hearing that Russia is suffering economically and yet they are expanding their Military at a very Rapid rate and actually have more tanks now than they did at the begining of the conflict albeit the older models that have been pulled from retirement I guess...but still.

Soooo what's next here folks....do you see this thing ending or exploding?

JO

Sure, more or less.

We just fight differently now, so wars are seldom announced.

 

[MisterBeale]

Not quite yet, almost.

WWIII would mean total war, we are not at total war yet.

I suspect that if the U.S. attacks Iran, and that oil stops getting to China, Russia and China will mobilize for total war.

Iran, China and Russia sign trilateral strategic pact​

January 29, 2026 at 9:14 am

Iran, China and Russia sign trilateral strategic pact

In a dramatic geopolitical development this afternoon, Iran, China and Russia formally signed a comprehensive strategic pact, marking one of the most consequential shifts in 21st-century internatio…

www.middleeastmonitor.com

I have heard that Russia has some navel and air assets in the Iranian theater, though China doesn't, and has not indicated that they will send anything.

. . however, if both China and Russia mobilize for total war after an Iranian attack, I think it is conceivable that China will continue to divest, and maybe cause a recession here - coordinated with the closing of the straights.

China Dumps U.S. Treasuries: Here’s Why Bitcoin Cares​

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-dumps-u-treasuries-why-211831633.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFKK5zoh05EsHh5ASqf_PJ65RTX9pUY-uu8AYUDMnzOsDufgjjB-uVL6bU-kDqEPzd54Bo9xM3b-NI9Eq62eAfQnvjFHYw5Z2AFZ8OuAJOzm9XyI0DBFIErr4Hln7_b0FYIZ5mBA5X5tZVBjUrj-qwzRde1YqPMtSQa0ihlFkT-C

If China Stops Buying our Debt, Will Calamity Follow? | Brookings

In the wake of speculation that China, which has acquired a huge amount of U.S. Treasury debt, may soon begin unloading it, Gary Burtless says that, contrary to the claims of many observers, a sizeable sell-off of Treasury securities by China would almost certainly lead to an appreciation of...

www.brookings.edu

This is the most recent info graphic I found on it, six years old.

IMO, the last time we saw this kind of hurt will have been a generation or so ago.

 

[1srelluc]

When you think of the NORKs in Ukraine, think of the Hessen troops contracted by the Brits in our revolution....Same difference.

Neither were/are really mercenaries, just contract troops.

While the German state leaders got money from the Brits, the NORKs gain valuable combat experience and perhaps even future strategic help from Russia.

 

[theHawk]

Sure, more or less.

We just fight differently now, so wars are seldom announced.

View attachment 1222489

No, we don’t miss that idiot.

 

[Old Rocks]

Been doing some reading in the miltary journals and news.....hoepfully the non propaganda ones. (Just had my head handed to me the other day because I didn't vet my sources lol)...will I ever learn??) I didn't realize how deeply involved North Korea was in the Russia<>Ukraine conflict....very heavily apparently up to and including 6,000 dead North Koreans. Large shipmemnts of Artillery hardware and hundreds of thousands of shells to go with it. China has stepped up its hardware and logistcal support and also has committed to buying even more Russian Hydrocarbons. Ukraine is now on the hostilities list of both Hungary and Slovakia for some complex reasons having to do with EU parlimentary voting https://www.euronews.com/2026/02/22...e-until-ukrainian-oil-supplies-resume.....not good at all. I mean how will the elected pick pockets of the EU parliament get their kickback bucks and boomerang benefits if Hungary votes against???? Then it struck me....

This thing is growing....not slowing. You would think that the loss of 1.2 million Russian Soldiers would put Putin right out on his ass in the next Russian Election cycle....I mean that is enormous...unless of course the number is fictititious which is highly possible.

Ukraine ain't no angel here either folks....sure this is a David and Goliath struggle but did it ever occur to you that sometimes David can be a little prick?

Additonally I keep hearing that Russia is suffering economically and yet they are expanding their Military at a very Rapid rate and actually have more tanks now than they did at the begining of the conflict albeit the older models that have been pulled from retirement I guess...but still.

Soooo what's next here folks....do you see this thing ending or exploding?

JO

Putin's goal has never been just Ukraine. It has been to bring back to hegemony of the Soviet Union. So eventually it will have to explode if Putin is not stopped in the Ukraine. By stopped, not some kind of deal that gives Russia part of the Ukraine, but the full defeat and expulsion of all Russian troops from all Ukrainian territory. Giving Russia any part of Ukraine will be just as successful as giving Sudetenland to Germany was.

 

[Deadstick]

Putin's goal has never been just Ukraine. It has been to bring back to hegemony of the Soviet Union. So eventually it will have to explode if Putin is not stopped in the Ukraine. By stopped, not some kind of deal that gives Russia part of the Ukraine, but the full defeat and expulsion of all Russian troops from all Ukrainian territory. Giving Russia any part of Ukraine will be just as successful as giving Sudetenland to Germany was.

Utter bullshit! Putin never wanted a war with Ukraine and he certainly doesn't want the whole of Ukraine or any other Country, where do you get this crap from about Russia/Putin wanting to bring back the Soviet Union? as for Ukraine Putin should have gone in 8 years before he did when the people in Donbass were being killed by Ukrainian shelling of Donetsk just after the Coup had taken place, if he had i doubt there would have been the war we see now with many people dead on both sides, from what i have seen Putin has been far too soft, when Nato weapons like the Storm shadow are killing people IN Russia he should have taken tougher action.

 

[justoffal]

Utter bullshit! Putin never wanted a war with Ukraine and he certainly doesn't want the whole of Ukraine or any other Country, where do you get this crap from about Russia/Putin wanting to bring back the Soviet Union? as for Ukraine Putin should have gone in 8 years before he did when the people in Donbass were being killed by Ukrainian shelling of Donetsk just after the Coup had taken place, if he had i doubt there would have been the war we see now with many people dead on both sides, from what i have seen Putin has been far too soft, when Nato weapons like the Storm shadow are killing people IN Russia he should have taken tougher action.

These people don't understand that NATO has morphed from a defensive organization into a territory hungry power broker that has ambitions beyond its original purpose.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Putin's goal has never been just Ukraine. It has been to bring back to hegemony of the Soviet Union. So eventually it will have to explode if Putin is not stopped in the Ukraine. By stopped, not some kind of deal that gives Russia part of the Ukraine, but the full defeat and expulsion of all Russian troops from all Ukrainian territory. Giving Russia any part of Ukraine will be just as successful as giving Sudetenland to Germany was.

What is that based on?!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Utter bullshit! Putin never wanted a war with Ukraine and he certainly doesn't want the whole of Ukraine or any other Country, where do you get this crap from about Russia/Putin wanting to bring back the Soviet Union? as for Ukraine Putin should have gone in 8 years before he did when the people in Donbass were being killed by Ukrainian shelling of Donetsk just after the Coup had taken place, if he had i doubt there would have been the war we see now with many people dead on both sides, from what i have seen Putin has been far too soft, when Nato weapons like the Storm shadow are killing people IN Russia he should have taken tougher action.

Look at how Putin refusal to retreat has pushed NATO right to his doorstep, er, or something!!

 

[Deadstick]

These people don't understand that NATO has morphed from a defensive organization into a territory hungry power broker that has ambitions beyond its original purpose.

After the so called cold war ended and the Soviet Union was gone including the Warsaw pact any reason for Nato to even exist had gone, but as usual it's about money, so the NATO war pigs had to find another reason for it to exist, we saw the result with the attack on Yugoslavia, NATO is the largest money making scam /pyramid selling con there ever was, but many of the brain dead herd can't see it.

 

[Kruska]

Been doing some reading in the miltary journals and news.....hoepfully the non propaganda ones. (Just had my head handed to me the other day because I didn't vet my sources lol)...will I ever learn??) I didn't realize how deeply involved North Korea was in the Russia<>Ukraine conflict....very heavily apparently up to and including 6,000 dead North Koreans. Large shipmemnts of Artillery hardware and hundreds of thousands of shells to go with it. China has stepped up its hardware and logistcal support and also has committed to buying even more Russian Hydrocarbons. Ukraine is now on the hostilities list of both Hungary and Slovakia for some complex reasons having to do with EU parlimentary voting https://www.euronews.com/2026/02/22...e-until-ukrainian-oil-supplies-resume.....not good at all. I mean how will the elected pick pockets of the EU parliament get their kickback bucks and boomerang benefits if Hungary votes against???? Then it struck me....

This thing is growing....not slowing. You would think that the loss of 1.2 million Russian Soldiers would put Putin right out on his ass in the next Russian Election cycle....I mean that is enormous...unless of course the number is fictititious which is highly possible.

Ukraine ain't no angel here either folks....sure this is a David and Goliath struggle but did it ever occur to you that sometimes David can be a little prick?

Additonally I keep hearing that Russia is suffering economically and yet they are expanding their Military at a very Rapid rate and actually have more tanks now than they did at the begining of the conflict albeit the older models that have been pulled from retirement I guess...but still.

Soooo what's next here folks....do you see this thing ending or exploding?

JO

Heavy Involvement !! ???

What does China even have to do with the Russian-Ukraine war? - Nothing.

China had laid a peace-plan proposal to the UN, NATO, Ukraine and Russia already in March 2023. Which NATO and Ukraine immediately dismissed. Instead they chose to provided Russia with the time to secure their positions in Ukraine and watched Russia furthering it's territorial occupation and therefore claims for the next 3 years.