Windmills create warming

Just wait until they discover that the widespread use of solar causes global cooling.
 
Why didn't they follow the science...my god they've killed us all by making it worse
Well first, it is the wake effect;

"It's not just about the energy given to the turbine blades, but also the turbulence created behind them, which can stretch for miles and change the wind direction. This is what the 'wake effect' is about," he explained in the report.

The publication said, "Air flowing through a wind turbine loses speed and creates turbulence, which can negatively affect the turbines located behind it, reducing the energy efficiency of subsequent devices. As described on the website renovables.blog, when a turbine is exposed to wind with a lower speed, it generates less electrical energy, and furthermore, 'turbulent flow can increase the mechanical wear of the blades, shortening their lifespan.'"

Second, it might make the air a little warmer at the surface but they do not increase the warming by merely mixing upper level air with lower level. The total amount of heat in the air mass remains the same, the distribution is just a bit better.
 
Just wait until they discover that the widespread use of solar causes global cooling.
No, it does not. The widespread use of solar would cool the region where the solar farms are located, but the use of the electricity generated in urban area would warm the urban area. So no net cooling or warming on a global scale from the use of solar.
 
Just wait until they discover that the widespread use of solar causes global cooling.
Here;

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Regardless of the harmful effects of burning fossil fuels on global climate, other energy sources will become more important in the future because fossil fuels could run out by the early twenty-second centuryl, When will fossil fuel reserves be diminished? This implies that sooner or later humanity will rely heavily on renewable energy sources. Here we model the effects of an idealized large-scale application of renewable energy on global and regional climate relative to a background climate of the representative concentration pathway 2.6 scenario (RCP2.6; ref. 5). We find that solar panels alone induce regional cooling by converting incoming solar energy to electricity in comparison to the climate without solar panels. The conversion of this electricity to heat, primarily in urban areas, increases regional and global temperatures which compensate the cooling effect. However, there are consequences involved with these processes that modulate the global atmospheric circulation, resulting in changes in regional precipitation.

 
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Why didn't they follow the science...my god they've killed us all by making it worse

Yet another in a long line of Reich Wing Conspiracy Wing Nut sites for Reich Wing Conspiracy Nut Jobs.

Find a better brand of bullshit to peddle. Windmills generate power, they do NOT cause cancer. Take Holland asshole, wind mills everywhere, explain their low cancer rate.
 
No, it does not. The widespread use of solar would cool the region where the solar farms are located, but the use of the electricity generated in urban area would warm the urban area. So no net cooling or warming on a global scale from the use of solar.
It literally converts solar energy into electricity that would have warmed the surface of the planet. Studies have shown there is a localized cooling effect. Do enough of it and it becomes a global effect. It would take installing solar panels on about 1% of the land surface to turn the planet from net warming to net cooling.

Not all electricity used is converted into hear. A portion does work. But since it is replacing electricity generated from fossil fuels, whatever waste heat from using electricity, there's no incremental increase from that. So the only incremental change is the localized cooling from converting sunshine which would have heated the surface of the planet into electricity.
 
Here;

Abstract​

Regardless of the harmful effects of burning fossil fuels on global climate, other energy sources will become more important in the future because fossil fuels could run out by the early twenty-second centuryl, When will fossil fuel reserves be diminished? This implies that sooner or later humanity will rely heavily on renewable energy sources. Here we model the effects of an idealized large-scale application of renewable energy on global and regional climate relative to a background climate of the representative concentration pathway 2.6 scenario (RCP2.6; ref. 5). We find that solar panels alone induce regional cooling by converting incoming solar energy to electricity in comparison to the climate without solar panels. The conversion of this electricity to heat, primarily in urban areas, increases regional and global temperatures which compensate the cooling effect. However, there are consequences involved with these processes that modulate the global atmospheric circulation, resulting in changes in regional precipitation.

Flawed assumption on waste heat and no incremental analysis of waste heat.
 
It literally converts solar energy into electricity that would have warmed the surface of the planet. Studies have shown there is a localized cooling effect. Do enough of it and it becomes a global effect. It would take installing solar panels on about 1% of the land surface to turn the planet from net warming to net cooling.

Not all electricity used is converted into hear. A portion does work. But since it is replacing electricity generated from fossil fuels, whatever waste heat from using electricity, there's no incremental increase from that. So the only incremental change is the localized cooling from converting sunshine which would have heated the surface of the planet into electricity.
The end result of work is heat. Energy can neither be created or destroyed other than in nuclear reactions. And even then you are merely converting one form of energy, matter, into energy.
 
The end result of work is heat. Energy can neither be created or destroyed other than in nuclear reactions. And even then you are merely converting one form of energy, matter, into energy.
Except you are forgetting work performed which must be accounted for in the energy balance and that waste heat from fossil fuels did not convert sunshine into electricity that would have otherwise heated the surface of the planet. So incrementally there is no change in waste heat but there is a change in solar radiation heating the surface of the planet.
 
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