Will Russia try to expand into NATO countries while the U.S is bogged down dealing with Iran?

[CowboyTed]

There is no need for CIA handbooks for it. Declare "America for [white anglosaxon protestant] Americans!", "Georgia for [ethnic] Georgians!", "North Dakota for Dakota [people]!", or "Ukraine of [ethnic] Ukrainians!", ban official or any public usage of the languages people actually speak, ban most popular party in the country, publically and demonstratively burn alive people who openly and legally protest against your regime, murder in secret those who, you think, may be a protester.... And there will be no trouble to uprise people against your regime. Russia have been doing it, at least, since 1618, long before Americans even start thinking about their independence. Actually, American Revolutionary War was partly inspired by Russia, too.

And vice versa - you can't uprise people if they are really satisfied with their situation.

Russia don't consider Ukrainians Russian... They proved that in history...

So Ukrainians want to reject Russia, would you blame them (They got 20% of there population killed because they were not Russian) and join the EU...

Putin can't have Ukraine joining the EU because like all other ex soviet countries they will get rid of corruption, rich and enjoy a much higher standard of living... (They also will stop jailing journalists, political opposition....).
How is Putin going to explain to Russian's that they have to live in poverty if Ukraine get wealthier and happier... That is a hard sell...
Putin need Democracy to die so he find himself at the end of a rope for stealing off his own people...

This is not about what is best for Russia, this is about what is best for Putin... More Russians to the meat grinder..

 

[Deadstick]

Russia don't consider Ukrainians Russian... They proved that in history...

So Ukrainians want to reject Russia, would you blame them (They got 20% of there population killed because they were not Russian) and join the EU...

Putin can't have Ukraine joining the EU because like all other ex soviet countries they will get rid of corruption, rich and enjoy a much higher standard of living... (They also will stop jailing journalists, political opposition....).
How is Putin going to explain to Russian's that they have to live in poverty if Ukraine get wealthier and happier... That is a hard sell...
Putin need Democracy to die so he find himself at the end of a rope for stealing off his own people...

This is not about what is best for Russia, this is about what is best for Putin... More Russians to the meat grinder..

You really are a mixed up individual not sure how you got there but here we are.

 

[CowboyTed]

You really are a mixed up individual not sure how you got there but here we are.

So all got now is Gaslighting....

I show where you have gone wrong... I showed you in the past where you are getting your sources and how they have been manipulated...

But a soon as you are hit with reality , you go gaslighting...

Look at Poland before joining EU and look at them now... Even the mention of joining EU had a rush of investment..

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In general, Poland's average wages are higher than Russia's, but both have seen significant wage growth over the years. In 2024, Poland's average monthly wage was around 87,952 Russian Rubles, while Russia's was roughly 87,952 Rubles, according to Statista. Historically, both countries have experienced a notable increase in average wages since the early 1990s.

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Eventually the Russians are going to ask why they are poor while having all the resources like Oil , Gas,.... What happens to disposed corrupt leaders in Russia?
Putin self enrichment has created the word Kleptocrat...

 

[Deadstick]

So all got now is Gaslighting....

I show where you have gone wrong... I showed you in the past where you are getting your sources and how they have been manipulated...

But a soon as you are hit with reality , you go gaslighting...

Look at Poland before joining EU and look at them now... Even the mention of joining EU had a rush of investment..

"
In general, Poland's average wages are higher than Russia's, but both have seen significant wage growth over the years. In 2024, Poland's average monthly wage was around 87,952 Russian Rubles, while Russia's was roughly 87,952 Rubles, according to Statista. Historically, both countries have experienced a notable increase in average wages since the early 1990s.

"

Eventually the Russians are going to ask why they are poor while having all the resources like Oil , Gas,.... What happens to disposed corrupt leaders in Russia?
Putin self enrichment has created the word Kleptocrat...

No i proved you wrong and you don't like it, if anyone wants to join the EU they can apply, the problem is when that is tied to also joining NATO, i have shown you how the West is engaged in a proxy war on Russia and you just won't face reality, they are losing on the battlefield so now it's state sponsored terrorism like those railway bridges that were blown up killing civilians some of them Children, were you ok with that? and were you ok when the PIRA used the same tactics?

 

[CowboyTed]

No i proved you wrong and you don't like it, if anyone wants to join the EU they can apply, the problem is when that is tied to also joining NATO,

Putin real fear is EU... He can't have Ukraine being successful like Poland... What has NATO got to do with anything if you are not invading... NATO is a defensive arrangement not offensive... It is just Putin fear BS about NATO...

i have shown you how the West is engaged in a proxy war on Russia and you just won't face reality,

Russia was there first... EU has made no bones about not wanting Russia taking Ukraine, this was before when the were trying corrupt influencing... Ukraine was helped to rid themselves of Russian corruption (well a good bit of it)...

You seem to be very pro Russian corruption...

they are losing on the battlefield so now it's state sponsored terrorism like those railway bridges that were blown up killing civilians some of them Children, were you ok with that? and were you ok when the PIRA used the same tactics?

Not loosing on the battlefield, 80% of Ukraine is in Ukrainian hands...

Russia used those railway lines as a method to move troops and arms... That makes them military targets... surprised you didn't know that... Russia choose to use that bridge for arms... They are the bad guys in that one too...
Difference Russia bombs civilian areas of a city... Nice try... The war criminals of Russia seem to get a lot of passes from you...

You seem to be struggling today... Russia was the aggressor in this war, they financed it, pushed it... they took the Crimea...
Putin's reasons are just made up bullshit and everyone except you knows it... Even the guy on the street in Moscow knows that... We know you shill for Russia but you got to play with reality..

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

you couldn't show me a photo of the 2014 invasion because it never happened,

If was those Russians going on vacation in Ukraine.
Just a coincidence.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And vice versa - you can't uprise people if they are really satisfied with their situation.

Exactly! USSR very satisfying.
All brothers moving toward our glorious socialist future!

Oops. Not so much. Maybe they weren't really satisfied?

 

[Invisibleflash]

Trump cannot duplicate the same errors as the U.S made in the past. If Israel is aware of the nuclear locations they will have to be tasked with taking them out if Iran doesn't peacefully agree.

Putin is dragging this out and is now openly telling Trump "I am going to attack Ukraine due to this latest attack".

I'm guessing Putin doesn't care about Trump either. Biden, Bush, Obama, Trump...Putin doesn't care and I wonder if he is waiting until the U.S is bogged down and then China AND Russia will attack while Europe will be busy setting up meetings to discuss world issues.

Europe is trash. They got no natural reosureces and jsut a bunch of hunrgy migrates ready to kill the natives. Does not sound like a great recipe for land grabbing. Russia is in Ukraine bc USA wants to set up shop there for staging grounds to take down Russia.

 

[Deadstick]

Will Russia try to expand into NATO countries​

Expand what? Broken down equipment and poorly trained troops?

So why are you in a state of hysteria about the prospect?

 

[Deadstick]

Putin real fear is EU... He can't have Ukraine being successful like Poland... What has NATO got to do with anything if you are not invading... NATO is a defensive arrangement not offensive... It is just Putin fear BS about NATO...

Russia was there first... EU has made no bones about not wanting Russia taking Ukraine, this was before when the were trying corrupt influencing... Ukraine was helped to rid themselves of Russian corruption (well a good bit of it)...

You seem to be very pro Russian corruption...

Not loosing on the battlefield, 80% of Ukraine is in Ukrainian hands...

Russia used those railway lines as a method to move troops and arms... That makes them military targets... surprised you didn't know that... Russia choose to use that bridge for arms... They are the bad guys in that one too...
Difference Russia bombs civilian areas of a city... Nice try... The war criminals of Russia seem to get a lot of passes from you...

You seem to be struggling today... Russia was the aggressor in this war, they financed it, pushed it... they took the Crimea...
Putin's reasons are just made up bullshit and everyone except you knows it... Even the guy on the street in Moscow knows that... We know you shill for Russia but you got to play with reality..

You have the facts arse over tit, was nothing going on in Ukraine before 2022? NATO defensive ? do me a favour when did the former Yugoslavia attack any NATO Country ? that criminal enterprise bombed Belgrade for 78 days, and good to know you support terrorism killing Children on those trains, Russia hits military targets and have proved that many times, you are a apologist for fascists and terrorism, i asked did you support PIRA terrorism on civilians?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So why are you in a state of hysteria about the prospect?

A state of hysteria about what?

 

[Zavulon]

Exactly! USSR very satisfying.
All brothers moving toward our glorious socialist future!

Oops. Not so much. Maybe they weren't really satisfied?

Yes, they were not satisfied. And when they saw the opportunity to make mutually acceptable and Russia profitable peace - they made their choice. I mean when you have the choice between exclusive access to Polish market and free access to the American/Chinese/European markets, and if there is no significant safety issues (like NATO promised don't cross Elbe) - why not?

 

[Deadstick]

A state of hysteria about what?

About people like you waking up one day to find Russian soldier with snow on his boots in your house, or they have taken over your town, this is Red Dawn on steroids.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

About people like you waking up one day to find Russian soldier with snow on his boots in your house, or they have taken over your town, this is Red Dawn on steroids.

Russian troops are going to invade Chicago?

Now, after 3 years of failure in Ukraine?

Will they be using 60-year-old tanks?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes, they were not satisfied. And when they saw the opportunity to make mutually acceptable and Russia profitable peace - they made their choice. I mean when you have the choice between exclusive access to Polish market and free access to the American/Chinese/European markets, and if there is no significant safety issues (like NATO promised don't cross Elbe) - why not?

NATO promised that? When?

 

[Zavulon]

NATO promised that? When?

Did you read "Not One Inch"?

Not One Inch - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Zavulon]

Russian troops are going to invade Chicago?

Did you hear the new cover of the popular Russian military song "We'll roll our sleeves up to elbows"? They mention Chicago there.

Now, after 3 years of failure in Ukraine?

Why not? And no, it's not failure. It's quite successful process of denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine and NATO

Will they be using 60-year-old tanks?

No. More likely they'll support and teach Mexicans. Actually, Los Rusos cartel is almost official unit of GRU.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Did you read "Not One Inch"?

Not One Inch - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

No. What is it about?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Did you hear the new cover of the popular Russian military song "We'll roll our sleeves up to elbows"? They mention Chicago there.



Why not? And no, it's not failure. It's quite successful process of denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine and NATO

No. More likely they'll support and teach Mexicans. Actually, Los Rusos cartel is almost official unit of GRU.

I don't listen to many Russian military songs.
They mention Chicago? Wow!
Cubs or Sox? Pizza? Hot dogs?

It's quite successful process of denazification

Did they get all two dozen nazis yet? And it took over 3 years (and counting)?

More likely they'll support and teach Mexicans.

Will the Mexicans be using 60-year-old Russian tanks?
Or low riders?

 

[Captain Caveman]

Trump cannot duplicate the same errors as the U.S made in the past. If Israel is aware of the nuclear locations they will have to be tasked with taking them out if Iran doesn't peacefully agree.

Putin is dragging this out and is now openly telling Trump "I am going to attack Ukraine due to this latest attack".

I'm guessing Putin doesn't care about Trump either. Biden, Bush, Obama, Trump...Putin doesn't care and I wonder if he is waiting until the U.S is bogged down and then China AND Russia will attack while Europe will be busy setting up meetings to discuss world issues.

To answer the thread title, no.