You can't have a "serious" debate if you keep defending losing arguments that you have to know are indefensible.
Health care for Americans is NOT bad.
No, it isn't. But the government can't run it well because they really don't run anything well.
We didn't "win" in Iraq. They hate us. There is no "America Appreciation Day". Their women are now enslaved in Burkas when they weren't before. In other words, the "cure" is much worse than the "disease".
That's debatable. Besides the fact that the
Bhurka is the traditional Pushtan dress (In Arab countries, it's the
Abaya), the point is Saddam was an insane monster who slaughtered hundreds of thousand of people on a whim. Now, they may be adopting cultural things that we don't like, I'm not happy with it, but the world is a better place now that Saddam is taking a dirt nap.
Bush really did say that he didn't think about Bin Laden and he really did close down the CIA unit assigned with finding Bin Laden.
That would be the unit that hadn't produced any leads for some time, and couldn't even tell the president with any certainty that Bin Laden was alive.
A 13.9% tax rate on someone who made more than $20,000,000.00 is indefensible.
A country totally controlled by the wealthy and corporations is NOT a good thing.
Corporations are NOT people my friend.
All true, but the Democrats are every bit in bed with this kind of behavior as the Republicans. If Obama really thinks this kind of taxation is wrong, why is he only bringing it up NOW that he's running against a rich guy? Why didn't he bring this up in 2009 or 2010?
Cutting education by a half billion to a billion per state is not defensible.
Considering how much money education wastes and the lack of accountablity, the amount of money being spent is kind of pointless. Private schools get the job done at a fraction of the cost.
Science is NOT a faith.
Scientists are not lazy liars with an agenda.
True enough- except when there is money on the line. if a scientist came out tomorrow and said, "Global Warming isn't caused by humans and it turns out this is cyclical", there'd be a lot less money for grants and research. That's kind of the problem with "Welfare Science".
You can stop abortion, but you can't punish the mother by not helping her once she is forced to have the baby. Saying "It's her fault she got pregnant" is not enough.
Why is that an unacceptable position? Frankly, we do the exact opposite. We let them have the abortions, and then we pay for the irresponsible ones who have the babies, and they have more of them because that gets them more money. So the people you want to reproduce- the ones with a work ethic- are limiting their family size and the ones who sit on the couch and watch
Jerry Springer all day are breeding. How messed up is that?
Acceptable levels of new birth defects to create jobs is not to be defended.
No one really said they were. But if you are going to insist on strict environmental standards, you don't sign free trade treaties with countries that don't give a #&*@ about that sort of thing and pay their people slave wages to boot. Oh, wait, Bill Clinton did exactly that- NAFTA, GATT, WTO, MFN for China.
And while we're at it.
The Grand Canyon did NOT come from "Noah's Flood".
Has anyone here actually argued that?
Once you get passed these ridiculous talking points, we can begin to have a real discussion.
Okay, Dean-O. How about some ridiculous Democratic talking points we can dispense with.
There's no such thing as an "entitlement". The world does not owe anyone a living.
Complaining about stuff that happened to your ancestors hundreds of years ago doesn't wash or excuse your bad behavior.
Criminals are not victims of society.
If a CEO says that it's easier to build a factory in China than America, we probably have too many regulations.
Teachers do not need unions. Neither do most public employees. They don't work for rich people, they work for the rest of us.
It should not take an act of God to fire an inept teacher who isn't up to the job.
(sorry, my recent irritation with Romney-bots has made me drift a bit to the left, so I need to do a little affirmation.)
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