Will Alabama vote for Roy Moore--or vote for the Democrat?

[oreo]

It wasn't 4 women that "came forward" and made these accusations, (as being spun by right wing talk show hosts and right wing websites in their conspiracy theories.) It was actually the Washington Post who approached them, indicating that complaints may have been filed against Roy Moore's interactions with young girls decades ago, but may have been ignored.

Here is the origninal Washington post article.
Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

Here is the Sean Hannity question & answer session with Roy Moore.


Here is the response to the question & answer session with Heraldo Rivera and others.


I have added a poll. Do you think Alabama will still vote for Roy Moore, or vote for the Democrat in this race?

 

[Lakhota]

I'm sure they are praying on it.

 

[Rambunctious]

Yes he will still win...this is what fighting the swamp looks like. If you are a patriotic, constitution loving American you had better hope he wins or the swamp will get a notch on their belt via their usual dirty tricks....

 

[Lakhota]

 

[JoeMoma]

We'll see!

 

[usmbguest5318]

I will be surprised if Alabamans don't elect Moore. I say that based not so much on what I think or know of Alabamans, but rather what I know about the character of Trumpkins, the current composition of the GOP, the lack of reason that suffuses the American polity, and the fractious nature of politics in America these days.

I mean, really. There's a current thread on USMB whereby the OP-er's central argument derives from the absurd line of "well, the Democrats behaved reprehensibly, so Republicans should do so now." Truly, I saw that OP and knew to be so what I'd already suspected of them and other adults like them who'd present the same tu quoque BS with regard to what is, no matter how one slices it, a dastardly act in the first place no matter who conducts, supports, or acquiesces to it: there is no hope for folks like that and there are enough of them that our national character is all but doomed. Such a line as the one presented in that other thread is not only logically unsound, but also, and worse, it's morally reprobate.

I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: Oh Lord, make my enemies ridiculous. And God granted it.
-- Voltaire​

Quite simply, one cannot credibly assert that one (or in this case one's party) is better than a competing other when one commits the same mistakes as they....For if one is no better than one's opponents, what is the point of having them as opponents? Of course, there is none.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

It is an uncorroborated allegation.
It looks like more Democrat dirty tricks smearing.

 

[Lakhota]

I'm guessing the pervert will win. I've heard Hannity will be campaigning for him.

 

[Chuz Life]

I wonder how many leftardz in this thread actually claim to believe in the idea that a person is "innocent until proven guilty"

 

[Snouter]

As I posted previously and specifically in the religion forum Joseph was 99 and Mary was 16 when the son of Yahweh, Jesus, was born via Cesarean section apparently. Obviously Viagra was not invented yet so clearly Yahweh had his hand in there helping the miracle happen. So good news for older guys who have a basic understanding of human physiology, young broads need the wisdom of older guys. Let's be honest young guys have no idea and no interest in satisfying a hot chick. They just want to tell their buds they got blown by so and so.

 

[Mousterian]

Snots, I think I CAN smell you!

 

[usmbguest5318]

As I posted previously and specifically in the religion forum Joseph was 99 and Mary was 16 when the son of Yahweh, Jesus, was born via Cesarean section apparently. Obviously Viagra was not invented yet so clearly Yahweh had his hand in there helping the miracle happen. So good news for older guys who have a basic understanding of human physiology, young broads need the wisdom of older guys. Let's be honest young guys have no idea and no interest in satisfying a hot chick. They just want to tell their buds they got blown by so and so.

I posted previously and specifically in the religion forum Joseph was 99 and Mary was 16 when the son of Yahweh, Jesus, was born

Now the birth of Jesus Christ took place in this way. When his mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child of the Holy Spirit; and her husband Joseph, being a just man and unwilling to put her to shame, resolved to send her away quietly. [1]
-- Matthew 18:19-20​

...And that was the unit century A.D. and this is 2000+ years later. Moreover, Moore hasn't raised any Messiahs and he himself is far from Divine.

Hell, in these times, were some dude to try to feed multitudes for free, people like you would attempt to asperse him for being a proponent of welfare and free handouts....And if he walked on water, your ilk would call it a conspiracy. So don't sit there contriving and posting contextually anachronistic metaphors about what Jesus, Mary and Joseph did as though if it was okay for them then, it's okay for everyone now.

If nothing else, the Holy Family were people of their time, so I suggest you follow their example in that regard, get on-board with the moral mores of the time in which you live and at least consider Moore's alleged behavior within the temporal context in which it happened, that is if you simply cannot refrain from passing and sharing judgement on Moore or the women who've accused him of mistreating them. Neither when Moore is alleged to have imposed himself on that girl nor now has a 30-something man's entreating for or engaging in (pseudo) sexual activity with a fourteen year-old enjoyed the acceptance that the same behavior did in the Holy Family's day.

I'll note that persecution of Christians was quite acceptable during Jesus' lifetime and for quite some time thereafter. I bet you don't think that makes okay doing so today. People were also allowed to sell their kids to pay their debts, yet we don't allow that today, though I don't have the first idea of what be your views on that practice.


Note:

1. While I take no issue with one's ascription to Christian dogma, I do take exception with one doing so and not complementing it with Christian practice, particularly the social teachings Christ gives us about how to comport ourselves among our fellow men.
   
   See:
   • Augustine: Sinner, Bishop, Saint -- Augustine's views on Mary's infidelity, thus the immaculateness of her conception, and Joseph's handling of it likely don't surprise Roman Catholics and Anglicans. I suspect for evangelical Protestants, however, that may not be the case.
   • The Fathers of the Church, Volume 60
     
   • Of Holy Virginity
     
   • St. John Chrysostom on the Annunciation

 

[JoeMoma]

As I posted previously and specifically in the religion forum Joseph was 99 and Mary was 16 when the son of Yahweh, Jesus, was born via Cesarean section apparently. Obviously Viagra was not invented yet so clearly Yahweh had his hand in there helping the miracle happen. So good news for older guys who have a basic understanding of human physiology, young broads need the wisdom of older guys. Let's be honest young guys have no idea and no interest in satisfying a hot chick. They just want to tell their buds they got blown by so and so.

Is 99 a typeo?
Cesarean section?

 

[oreo]

Yes he will still win...this is what fighting the swamp looks like. If you are a patriotic, constitution loving American you had better hope he wins or the swamp will get a notch on their belt via their usual dirty tricks....

I voted yes they will still vote for Roy Moore--because in the backward thinking of Alabama--they are very prone to conspiracy theories--and won't believe anything, including if it comes out of the accused mouth. They're like OJ Simpson jurors when it comes to making good political judgements--completely opposite of what a pragmatic thinking person would do.

You voted for Trump--so a child molestor would also be able to win in Alabama.

 

[g5000]

It wasn't 4 women that "came forward" and made these accusations, (as being spun by right wing talk show hosts and right wing websites in their conspiracy theories.) It was actually the Washington Post who approached them, indicating that complaints may have been filed against Roy Moore's interactions with young girls decades ago, but may have been ignored.

Here is the origninal Washington post article.
Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

Here is the Sean Hannity question & answer session with Roy Moore.


Here is the response to the question & answer session with Heraldo Rivera and others.


I have added a poll. Do you think Alabama will still vote for Roy Moore, or vote for the Democrat in this race?

There are only two reasons for someone saying they can't remember something.

One reason is that they honestly cannot remember.

The other reason is that they don't know if someone is going to come forward and contradict them if they straight out deny they did something. So they take the "I can't recall" legal loophole.


But the "I can't remember" line does not work in all cases.

For example, "I can't remember if I joined a gang and robbed banks."

Another example, "I can't remember if I diddled little girls."


Roy Moore tried the "I can't remember if I diddled little girls" bullshit during his interview with Hannity, and that proves he did.

He's a child molester. And no amount of smoke by his defenders can hide that fact.

Pseudocons better think twice about defending a child molester. I have a long memory.

 

[Rambunctious]

I voted yes they will still vote for Roy Moore--because in the backward thinking of Alabama--they are very prone to conspiracy theories--and won't believe anything, including if it comes out of the accused mouth. They're like OJ Simpson jurors when it comes to making good political judgements--completely opposite of what a pragmatic thinking person would do.

You voted for Trump--so a child molestor would also be able to win in Alabama.

You don't get it....the swamp will be replaced by any and all means.

 

[g5000]

The Republican voters can always write in the name of Luther Strange.

 

[g5000]

I voted yes they will still vote for Roy Moore--because in the backward thinking of Alabama--they are very prone to conspiracy theories--and won't believe anything, including if it comes out of the accused mouth. They're like OJ Simpson jurors when it comes to making good political judgements--completely opposite of what a pragmatic thinking person would do.

You voted for Trump--so a child molestor would also be able to win in Alabama.

You don't get it....the swamp will be replaced by any and all means.

Replaced with child molesters and pussy grabbers and Putin puppets.

 

[blastoff]

It wasn't 4 women that "came forward" and made these accusations, (as being spun by right wing talk show hosts and right wing websites in their conspiracy theories.) It was actually the Washington Post who approached them, indicating that complaints may have been filed against Roy Moore's interactions with young girls decades ago, but may have been ignored.

Here is the origninal Washington post article.
Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32

Here is the Sean Hannity question & answer session with Roy Moore.


Here is the response to the question & answer session with Heraldo Rivera and others.


I have added a poll. Do you think Alabama will still vote for Roy Moore, or vote for the Democrat in this race?

There are only two reasons for someone saying they can't remember something.

One reason is that they honestly cannot remember.

The other reason is that they don't know if someone is going to come forward and contradict them if they straight out deny they did something. So they take the "I can't recall" legal loophole.


But the "I can't remember" line does not work in all cases.

For example, "I can't remember if I joined a gang and robbed banks."

Another example, "I can't remember if I diddled little girls."


Roy Moore tried the "I can't remember if I diddled little girls" bullshit during his interview with Hannity, and that proves he did.

He's a child molester. And no amount of smoke by his defenders can hide that fact.

Pseudocons better think twice about defending a child molester. I have a long memory.

She made the claim. He says he recalls no such thing, so now the lefty pukes think the burden of proof is on him? Must be nice to be a lefty.

 

[MarkDuffy]

I wonder how many leftardz in this thread actually claim to believe in the idea that a person is "innocent until proven guilty"

Has Hillary ever been convicted of a crime?

Oh wait, that is conservative hypicrisy