Widely used pesticides causing long term decline of honeybees

[MindWars]

The world’s most widely used pesticides neonicotinoid causes the long-term decline of both honeybees and wild bees, two new field studies found. The first pan-European field study near oilseed rape crops treated with the chemical in Germany, Hungary, and the UK found it harmed bees. The chemicals led to bee population declines by reducing overwintering success of honeybee colonies in Hungary and the UK but not in Germany. Increasing neonicotinoid residue in the bee
Widely used pesticides 'causing long-term decline of honeybees'
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Oh but don't worry it's all just bs, never mind all the scientist begging for people to listen , wake up etc.

 

[there4eyeM]

Company profits being the only thing that counts, there is nothing that can be done.

 

[MindWars]

Company profits being the only thing that counts, there is nothing that can be done.

People standing up and pushing information can be done. If we sit in a corner with our hands over our eyes of course " Nothing can/will be done.

 

[RodISHI]

Company profits being the only thing that counts, there is nothing that can be done.

Every time a farmer uses pesticides or crops that require the use of a lot of pesticides it supports poisoning the whole. This is why large farming operations should not get subsidies. Smaller farmers are generally more prudent about spending money in excessive ways. These large co-ops depend on volume and that volume is using all these pesticides is costing everyone long term in health.

 

[Darkwind]

The world’s most widely used pesticides neonicotinoid causes the long-term decline of both honeybees and wild bees, two new field studies found. The first pan-European field study near oilseed rape crops treated with the chemical in Germany, Hungary, and the UK found it harmed bees. The chemicals led to bee population declines by reducing overwintering success of honeybee colonies in Hungary and the UK but not in Germany. Increasing neonicotinoid residue in the bee
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Oh but don't worry it's all just bs, never mind all the scientist begging for people to listen , wake up etc.

Well, it is interesting that they don't link to the actual study. However, there has been some serious research into the effects of neonicotinoids. In this instance, the conclusions are somewhat ambiguous, but it seems clear that the pesticide increases the Varroa load on the colonies.

Here is a summary conclusion from the study I will post a link to. The study was done on hives that were exposed to treated corn fields and compared to hives that were not.

In conclusion, our data show that honeybee colonies foraging in neonicotinoid-treated cornfields experienced significantly higher varroa loads, particularly at the corn flowering period, than those foraging in untreated cornfields. Colony mortality over the two experimental years was higher in the treated cornfields. The identification of sublethal clothianidin and thiamethoxam doses in the corn pollen makes from the corn flowering period a critical period for colony health. It would be, therefore, recommended for beekeepers to remove their beehives from cornfields during this period.

Performance of honeybee colonies located in neonicotinoid‐treated and untreated cornfields in Quebec

 

[Darkwind]

Company profits being the only thing that counts, there is nothing that can be done.

Every time a farmer uses pesticides or crops that require the use of a lot of pesticides it supports poisoning the whole. This is why large farming operations should not get subsidies. Smaller farmers are generally more prudent about spending money in excessive ways. These large co-ops depend on volume and that volume is using all these pesticides is costing everyone long term in health.

The largest threat from large farming is the removal of hedgerow and wild foraging areas for pollinators.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Who needs bees anyway? Arent profits whats really important?

/sarcasm

 

[Darkwind]

The real question that was not answered by that study was with regard to pollination timing of corn and the over-wintering of the colonies. Corn is a late season pollinator and so the pesticides affecting the bee's ability to carry a Varroa load would be affected to a greater degree. Most apiaries will treat for Varroa loads in the late autumn. I haven't yet found a legitimate study on this. I do know that high Varroa loads going into overwintering will affect the colony significantly. Upwards of 40 to 60% losses in some apiaries.

 

[MindWars]

The real question that was not answered by that study was with regard to pollination timing of corn and the over-wintering of the colonies. Corn is a late season pollinator and so the pesticides affecting the bee's ability to carry a Varroa load would be affected to a greater degree. Most apiaries will treat for Varroa loads in the late autumn. I haven't yet found a legitimate study on this. I do know that high Varroa loads going into overwintering will affect the colony significantly. Upwards of 40 to 60% losses in some apiaries.

Not sure if you saw this part of the article (s )


The first pan-European field study near oilseed rape crops treated with the chemical in Germany, Hungary, and the UK found it harmed bees.

The chemicals led to bee population declines by reducing overwintering success of honeybee colonies in Hungary and the UK but not in Germany.


Increasing neonicotinoid residue in the bee nests was linked with lower reproductive success in all three nations.

And a Canadian study working in a commercial corn-growing area of Canada found exposed worker bees died younger.

Their colonies were also more likely to permanently lose queens.

But surprisingly the neonicotinoid contaminated pollen collected by the honeybees came not from crops grown from treated seeds, but plants growing in areas adjacent to those crops.

Bees at RISK: Widely used pesticides 'causes long-term decline of honeybees'

 

[Darkwind]

The real question that was not answered by that study was with regard to pollination timing of corn and the over-wintering of the colonies. Corn is a late season pollinator and so the pesticides affecting the bee's ability to carry a Varroa load would be affected to a greater degree. Most apiaries will treat for Varroa loads in the late autumn. I haven't yet found a legitimate study on this. I do know that high Varroa loads going into overwintering will affect the colony significantly. Upwards of 40 to 60% losses in some apiaries.

Not sure if you saw this part of the article (s )


The first pan-European field study near oilseed rape crops treated with the chemical in Germany, Hungary, and the UK found it harmed bees.

The chemicals led to bee population declines by reducing overwintering success of honeybee colonies in Hungary and the UK but not in Germany.


Increasing neonicotinoid residue in the bee nests was linked with lower reproductive success in all three nations.

And a Canadian study working in a commercial corn-growing area of Canada found exposed worker bees died younger.

Their colonies were also more likely to permanently lose queens.

But surprisingly the neonicotinoid contaminated pollen collected by the honeybees came not from crops grown from treated seeds, but plants growing in areas adjacent to those crops.

Bees at RISK: Widely used pesticides 'causes long-term decline of honeybees'

Yes, I saw it. The problem I have is that the article did not include a link to the study at all, but simply quoted a few people close or associated with the study. I'm no certain that it was the neonicotinoid and not the oilseed rape crops that intensified the effect. The study I posted was pretty clear that there were no significant differences in colony weights which lead to the understanding that brood production was sufficient to maintain flow and hive feed (honey).

By the time the colonies are to be overwintered, the apiary or beek will keep enough honey on the hive to get them through, so I don't see that as the problem. Varroa load and associated disease propagation is obviously coming from the exposure, but is it the pesticide or the plant?

 

[Darkwind]

Here is one of the sources I use to read up on Bee disease, and specifically neonicotinoid issues. You may have to sign up to see the thread.

CCD/Neonicotinoid Data (Studies, Articles, Links)

 

[2aguy]

The world’s most widely used pesticides neonicotinoid causes the long-term decline of both honeybees and wild bees, two new field studies found. The first pan-European field study near oilseed rape crops treated with the chemical in Germany, Hungary, and the UK found it harmed bees. The chemicals led to bee population declines by reducing overwintering success of honeybee colonies in Hungary and the UK but not in Germany. Increasing neonicotinoid residue in the bee
Widely used pesticides 'causing long-term decline of honeybees'
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Oh but don't worry it's all just bs, never mind all the scientist begging for people to listen , wake up etc.

Sorry.....debunked...the decline was a result of bugs in the hives......

 

[koshergrl]

Unfortunately, if you don't use pesticides, your food production takes a massive hit.
The solution is for people to stop mowing their lawns except as necessary to reduce fire risk, and whenever possible have hives.

I wish I had a hive. I'm really thinking about getting one.

Hardy Northwest Bees-Pacific Northwest Queens » Melissa Bees
How to Start Beekeeping | Beesource Beekeeping

 

[2aguy]

Here ...... the green fascists are trying to start another hysteria...

Bee decline ‘not caused by pesticides’

“The lab study certainly seemed very clear that low levels of pesticides were impacting on honey bee health. But when we look in the field we don’t see the same results. Even when colonies that were exposed to low levels we’re not seeing outbreaks of the gut parasite pathogen that we saw in the lab,” said Dr Jeff Pettis of the US Agricultural Research Service.

 

[2aguy]

And more...

'Neonics Not Key Driver of Bee Deaths'--USDA Study May Clash With White House Poised to Restrict Pesticide | HuffPost

More to the point as to the acrimonious debate over whether and how much neonicotinoids are impacting bee health, the total number of beehives today is higher than it was in 1995 when neonics as they are often called had just come on the market.

The report also comes just days after a USDA-sponsored study concluded that widely promoted claims that neonics are the primary driver of been health problems seriously distort the scientific explanation as to why bees have struggled over the past decade.

And the Green Fascists strike back...

But-while mainstream scientists warned against politicizing a complex and developing situation, advocacy groups coalesced around one rather simple—entomologists called it simplistic—explanation: bee deaths were caused by the growing use of neonics.

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Even as the CCD’s concerns faded—scientists now believe it was a short-lived phenomenon that has occurred numerous times over the past few centuries—environmental groups continued to post thousands of blogs and stories citing one out-of-context study or another as the ‘definitive’ explanation for a mystery that most mainstream experts say is complex and not easily reducible to the kind of black hate/white hat kind of narrative that so appeals to advocacy groups.

The real cause of bee health problems is gradually coming into sharper focus. In the latest in a string of studies looking at the relationship of pesticides found in pollen to honey bee colony health, independent researchers, publishing in PLOS ONE, politely slammed many past studies that hyped pesticides, neonics in particular, as the likely driving cause of declining bee health.

The scientists—all independent and working in a cooperative agreement with the USDA-ARS Bee Research Laboratory—found that many past researchers often based their experiments on extremely high amounts of pesticides—far more than a bee would normally encounter in its life. They looked instead at field realistic doses of pesticides, although always testing at the high end of what bees might actually experience.

They deliberately fed honeybee colonies the neonic pesticide imidacloprid in a dose-response experiment based on real-world pesticide levels: 5 and 20 µg/kg doses are in the reported high range of residues present in pollen and nectar in seed-treated crops. They also included a 100 µg/kg dose as a worst-case exposure level, representing imacloprid applied to flowering crops. (That level caused a large kill of bumblebees in a 2013 incident in Oregon.) Bee exposure occurred over weeks-longer than bees are usually exposed to neonics.

What did they find? Even at the highest dose of pesticide exposure, the researchers found no difference in the performance of the treated and untreated hives. They found no evidence that imidacloprid affected foraging activity during and after exposure in their experiments.

Directly contradicting claims by advocacy groups whose complaints prompted the forming of the White House task force, the longer the time period the less pesticides were found. “Bee Death Study Clears Bayer’s Insecticide as Sole Cause [of CCD],” concluded Bloomberg News in its summary analysis. “A widely used insecticide developed by Bayer AG and tied to deaths of honeybees isn’t the main cause of the fatalities, University of Maryland researchers said in a study that may weaken arguments used by environmentalists seeking to ban the chemical.”

 

[2aguy]

And more.....resist the temptation to believe Green Fascists when they are trying to create a new hysteria..

And of course...power, money and control are what the Green Fascists want....

Popping the Bee-Pocalypse Myth

According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, honeybee colonies in the United States, Canada, and Europe have been stable or growing for over two decades. In fact, honeybee populations are up by 80 percent worldwide since 1961. Even the Washington Post recently declared it’s time to “Call off the bee-pocalypse.” RELATED: Bee-pocalypse Now? Nope That’s inconvenient for an activist organization like CFS, which stands to profit handsomely off the “bee-pocalypse” myth by suggesting honeybees will soon be extinct and scapegoating a class of insecticides known as neonicotinoids. Multiple, highly respected field studies consistently show that exposure to neonic-treated crops has little to no adverse effect on honeybees at the colony level.

Activists understand that if they’re forced to drop this lucrative alarmist charade, they’ll lose their most effective tool for advancing greater regulations on the food and farming industries. Oh, and claiming bees are going extinct brings in plenty of donations as well.


Pop Secret must not have realized bee numbers are stable and growing. Otherwise it would never have agreed to reduce neonic usage by 50 percent in 2016 and 75 percent in 2017, in line with the restrictions announced by sister company and fellow target Pop Weaver. But that’s not enough for CFS. The group has sent bullying letters to other popcorn companies, misrepresenting what’s going on with bees and setting deadlines for responding to their demands.

Read more at: Popping the Bee-Pocalypse Myth

 

[2aguy]

And more on the myth of bees becoming extinct......

Advancing Scientific Integrity on Bees

A steady stream of misinformation has fueled misplaced public anxiety about bees. Being on the “right” side must therefore begin with recognizing that honeybee populations are actually increasing, as the decline in managed honeybee colonies reversed in recent years. Attention to the vice presidential hive should instead focus on preventing and controlling the biggest single threat to honeybees, especially in small-scale hobbyist hives: infestations of Varroa mites.

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Anti-pesticide zealots and headline-seeking news media have been talking for years about domesticated bees (and now wild bees) serving as “the canary in the coal mine,” whose health problems portend yet another man-made environmental calamity. The future of agriculture, human nutrition, perhaps all life on Earth could be at risk if bees and other important pollinators “disappear,” they ominously intone.

That is nothing more than fear-mongering. Honeybee populations have been bouncing back nicely since the days when many worried about mysterious large-scale deaths in hives. In fact, the “crisis” was seriously (and sometimes deliberately) overblown, and honeybee populations are now at or near 20-year highs in North America and every other continent, except Antarctica.

And here are the Green Fascists again...

Assiduous scientific investigation helped identify the mites, viruses and fungal pathogens that can infest hives, and beekeepers are learning to treat infestations without inadvertently killing bees or entire hives. That process has underscored the hard reality that, for professional and hobbyist beekeepers alike, maintaining healthy hives is complicated and difficult, especially when multiple pathogens invade.

However, in another sense, honeybees truly are canaries in the coal mine. They are harbingers of the ways environmentalist attacks on modern agriculture can damage one of the most productive, competitive and globally vital sectors of the American economy. American agriculture feeds the USA and world, while generating trade surpluses and supporting rural and small town communities across the country.

Unfortunately, determined anti-pesticide zealots have been trying for nearly a decade to use the alleged “bee crisis” to prevent farmers from using advanced-technology neonicotinoid pesticides that boost agricultural yields, reduce the need for other crop-protection insecticides that can harm bees, and reduce risks to humans, birds, other animals, non-pest insects, and bees.

 

[MindWars]

The world’s most widely used pesticides neonicotinoid causes the long-term decline of both honeybees and wild bees, two new field studies found. The first pan-European field study near oilseed rape crops treated with the chemical in Germany, Hungary, and the UK found it harmed bees. The chemicals led to bee population declines by reducing overwintering success of honeybee colonies in Hungary and the UK but not in Germany. Increasing neonicotinoid residue in the bee
Widely used pesticides 'causing long-term decline of honeybees'
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Oh but don't worry it's all just bs, never mind all the scientist begging for people to listen , wake up etc.

Sorry.....debunked...the decline was a result of bugs in the hives......

It's not debunked, that's what Mosanto pushes out there to keep ppl believing just what you are right now.

A scientist a few years ago came out and admitted to Mosanto products causing tumors, later he retracted it because his life was threatened this is what they do. , a big company could stand to lose billions of they don't counter act what the masses ARE starting to realize is going on. It's causing cancer.

 

[MindWars]

When you want what is really happening go to the source " THE BEE KEEPERS"

To illustrate the magnitude of the pesticide problem for bees, the quantity of pesticides produced and sold in the United States has increased every year since 1957, except for 1969 and 1970, when there were slight decreases. Production of synthetic organic pesticides in the United States in 1974 amounted to more than 1.4 billion pounds (709,000 tons). Of the total production, 650 million pounds were insecticides. Even after taking imports and exports into account, slightly more than half the production, 400,000 tons, of pesticide was applied in the United States (Fowler and Mahan 1976). Currently, there are more than 50 insecticides in common use with moderate to high toxicity to honey bees (Atkins 1977).

Pesticides and Honey Bee Mortality | Beesource Beekeeping

 

[MindWars]

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When you want what is really happening go to the source " THE BEE KEEPERS"

To illustrate the magnitude of the pesticide problem for bees, the quantity of pesticides produced and sold in the United States has increased every year since 1957, except for 1969 and 1970, when there were slight decreases. Production of synthetic organic pesticides in the United States in 1974 amounted to more than 1.4 billion pounds (709,000 tons). Of the total production, 650 million pounds were insecticides. Even after taking imports and exports into account, slightly more than half the production, 400,000 tons, of pesticide was applied in the United States (Fowler and Mahan 1976). Currently, there are more than 50 insecticides in common use with moderate to high toxicity to honey bees (Atkins 1977).

Pesticides and Honey Bee Mortality | Beesource Beekeeping

Signs of Bee Mortality

Outside the Colony

The most obvious indication of heavy exposure to poisons is the heavy accumulation of dead or dying bees at the hive entrance and on the ground between the colonies (fig. 2). (In strong colonies, natural mortality of up to 100 dead adult bees per day is a normal die-off rate. When the rate exceeds 100 per day, then poisoning may be suspected.) Individual bees that have been poisoned, frequently are seen crawling on the ground near the entrance or twirling on their side in a tight circle. Others appear to be weak or paralyzed. These gross symptoms of poisoning vary with the type of pesticide and the degree of exposure. Foraging bees also may die in the field or on the flight back to the hive.


FIGURE 2.-Large-scale kills: Some pesticides kill bees in the field, while others kill the bees in