Why?

[VaYank5150]

There you go again.......
rewriting history will not help your cause....It's a matter of record that Bush soundly defeated the Taliban Army and Al Qaeda fighters in country. The ones who were the most chicken shit fled to Pakistan.

Now what Bush did was rely on NATO, specifically European countrys TO PROVIDE THE COMBAT TROOPS THEY PROMISED IN 2001!!!! THEY NEVER GAVE THE "COALITION" SHIT!!!!

HOW LONG BEFORE YOU GET THIS FACT THROUGH YOUR HEAD??? HOW LONG????

There is a COALITION of forces in Iraq...NOT JUST THE GODDAM U.S.A.!!!!!!!!

It is?? What "record" are you speaking of? Seriously. I would like to know when we declared victory and why Bush didn't pull our troops out, or at the very least thin our troops levels down after our victory.

You can't be serious....are you? You just admitted you don't know jack shit about the topic your trying to discuss....this means you are either a LIBTARD troll, a dupe or a total jackass partisan shitbag. Which is it???? I'll go with dupe for now.

Beijing Times
U.S. Formally Announces Defeat of Taliban
The United States on Tuesday formally announced that the Taliban has been completely defeated and can no longer control any territory in Afghanistan.

The United States on Tuesday formally announced that the Taliban has been completely defeated and can no longer control any territory in Afghanistan.

"I hereby determine as of this date that the Taliban controls no territory within Afghanistan and modify the description of the term 'territory of Afghanistan controlled by the Taliban' to reflect that the Taliban controls no territory within Afghanistan, " U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage said in a statement published in the Federal Register.

The statement is a technical amendment to a presidential order which imposed sanctions against the regime.

The order, issued by former U.S. president Bill Clinton, had covered restrictions on property and transactions within the " territory of Afghanistan controlled by the Taliban."

Armitage's statement means that the above description in the order was no longer valid.

The judgment was made despite the fact the U.S. troops are still hunting down remnants of the Taliban, including its leader Mohammad Omar.

U.S. Formally Announces Defeat of Taliban

War in Afghanistan (2001–present) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Troop levels have been steadily INCREASING over the course of the entire Afghanistan conflict, which means BUSH WAS NOT IGNORING AFGHANISTAN...SOMETHING YOU LIBERALS ARE TRYING TO BULLSHIT AMERICA WITH!!!

Troop Levels in Afghanistan Since 2001 - Interactive Graphic - NYTimes.com

Care to do some MORE rewriting of historical fact!

So let me get this straight. We increased troop levels AFTER we defeated the Taliban? Is anyone else scratching their head over this?

 

[saveliberty]

Troop levels have been steadily INCREASING over the course of the entire Afghanistan conflict, which means BUSH WAS NOT IGNORING AFGHANISTAN...SOMETHING YOU LIBERALS ARE TRYING TO BULLSHIT AMERICA WITH!!!

Actually the troop levels (per your link) have gone up and down during the Bush Administration. The most he ever had deployed there was about 34,000 (compared to a top level of 157,000 in Iraq - pretty clear where the priority was misplaced, huh?).
Under Obama, however, troop levels have doubled to 68,000 - a 100% increase in nine months.

The numbers are pretty clear that during the Bush Admin - Afghanistan was playing second fiddle to his bigger priority.

I'm not a liberal. I think Bush ignored Afghanistan after the government was put in place.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

"BOOOOOOOOOOSSHH AN FOX NOOOOOOOOOZ!!!!!!!" is the standard Hopey Changey response. Honesty has nothing to do with it. Many Hopey Changey followers will never believe that their leader can do any wrong. These are the cultish kooks. However,many Independents who supported Hopey Changey are now having second thoughts. We'll see how things go in 2010 & 2012. I don't think "BOOOOOOOOOOSSHH AN FOX NOOOOOOOOZ!!" will be enough for them next time around.

 

[Titanic Sailor]

Ahh, now Afghanistan was second fiddle to Bush. Keep em coming.

Someone let me know when Blowbama becomes President.

Ali Baba Obama And His Forty Thieves/Czars

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Troop levels have been steadily INCREASING over the course of the entire Afghanistan conflict, which means BUSH WAS NOT IGNORING AFGHANISTAN...SOMETHING YOU LIBERALS ARE TRYING TO BULLSHIT AMERICA WITH!!!

Actually the troop levels (per your link) have gone up and down during the Bush Administration. The most he ever had deployed there was about 34,000 (compared to a top level of 157,000 in Iraq - pretty clear where the priority was misplaced, huh?).
Under Obama, however, troop levels have doubled to 68,000 - a 100% increase in nine months.

The numbers are pretty clear that during the Bush Admin - Afghanistan was playing second fiddle to his bigger priority.

Sorry...you are wrong. "NATO COALITION"..... say it 3 times so you remember it.

NATO NEVER stepped up to do their part...

Uhhhhhhhhhh....like I said..troop levels were steadily increasing over the entire span of the Afghan war. Bush niether ignored it or considered it a low priority. What you dishonest liberal hacks do NOT seem to understand is something I've been saying since the old MSNBC Message board days....the territory in Afghanistan is simply too difficult to fight a war against terror in....so Bush rightly chose the best place to set up a kill zone for every wannabe jihadist.....and he slaughtered them like sheep.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

It is?? What "record" are you speaking of? Seriously. I would like to know when we declared victory and why Bush didn't pull our troops out, or at the very least thin our troops levels down after our victory.

You can't be serious....are you? You just admitted you don't know jack shit about the topic your trying to discuss....this means you are either a LIBTARD troll, a dupe or a total jackass partisan shitbag. Which is it???? I'll go with dupe for now.

Beijing Times
U.S. Formally Announces Defeat of Taliban
The United States on Tuesday formally announced that the Taliban has been completely defeated and can no longer control any territory in Afghanistan.

The United States on Tuesday formally announced that the Taliban has been completely defeated and can no longer control any territory in Afghanistan.

"I hereby determine as of this date that the Taliban controls no territory within Afghanistan and modify the description of the term 'territory of Afghanistan controlled by the Taliban' to reflect that the Taliban controls no territory within Afghanistan, " U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage said in a statement published in the Federal Register.

The statement is a technical amendment to a presidential order which imposed sanctions against the regime.

The order, issued by former U.S. president Bill Clinton, had covered restrictions on property and transactions within the " territory of Afghanistan controlled by the Taliban."

Armitage's statement means that the above description in the order was no longer valid.

The judgment was made despite the fact the U.S. troops are still hunting down remnants of the Taliban, including its leader Mohammad Omar.

U.S. Formally Announces Defeat of Taliban

War in Afghanistan (2001–present) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Troop levels have been steadily INCREASING over the course of the entire Afghanistan conflict, which means BUSH WAS NOT IGNORING AFGHANISTAN...SOMETHING YOU LIBERALS ARE TRYING TO BULLSHIT AMERICA WITH!!!

Troop Levels in Afghanistan Since 2001 - Interactive Graphic - NYTimes.com

Care to do some MORE rewriting of historical fact!

So let me get this straight. We increased troop levels AFTER we defeated the Taliban? Is anyone else scratching their head over this?

Nope...only you...because you are a failure at understanding military strategy.

 

[VaYank5150]

Troop levels have been steadily INCREASING over the course of the entire Afghanistan conflict, which means BUSH WAS NOT IGNORING AFGHANISTAN...SOMETHING YOU LIBERALS ARE TRYING TO BULLSHIT AMERICA WITH!!!

Actually the troop levels (per your link) have gone up and down during the Bush Administration. The most he ever had deployed there was about 34,000 (compared to a top level of 157,000 in Iraq - pretty clear where the priority was misplaced, huh?).
Under Obama, however, troop levels have doubled to 68,000 - a 100% increase in nine months.

The numbers are pretty clear that during the Bush Admin - Afghanistan was playing second fiddle to his bigger priority.

Sorry...you are wrong. "NATO COALITION"..... say it 3 times so you remember it.

NATO NEVER stepped up to do their part...

Uhhhhhhhhhh....like I said..troop levels were steadily increasing over the entire span of the Afghan war. Bush niether ignored it or considered it a low priority. What you dishonest liberal hacks do NOT seem to understand is something I've been saying since the old MSNBC Message board days....the territory in Afghanistan is simply too difficult to fight a war against terror in....so Bush rightly chose the best place to set up a kill zone for every wannabe jihadist.....and he slaughtered them like sheep.

So, all of the Jihadists in Afghanistan are dead. WHY was Bush still escalating troop levels then? Oh, and IF Bush had built such a strong coalition, why did they back out on their troop level promises?

 

[LibocalypseNow]

In the end,30,000 more troops are not going to lead to any significant gains in Afghanistan. It's just a Half-Measure response from a President who has been absolutely shameful in his Half-Hearted approach to helping our kids out over there. Too little too late. How sad.

 

[nodoginnafight]

IN 2003 Bush actually DECREASED troop levels in six out of the 12 months; In 2004 monthly troop levels decreased six times; in 2005 four times; in 2006 four times; in 2007 five times; and in 2008 five times.

 

[VaYank5150]

You can't be serious....are you? You just admitted you don't know jack shit about the topic your trying to discuss....this means you are either a LIBTARD troll, a dupe or a total jackass partisan shitbag. Which is it???? I'll go with dupe for now.

Beijing Times
U.S. Formally Announces Defeat of Taliban
The United States on Tuesday formally announced that the Taliban has been completely defeated and can no longer control any territory in Afghanistan.

The United States on Tuesday formally announced that the Taliban has been completely defeated and can no longer control any territory in Afghanistan.

"I hereby determine as of this date that the Taliban controls no territory within Afghanistan and modify the description of the term 'territory of Afghanistan controlled by the Taliban' to reflect that the Taliban controls no territory within Afghanistan, " U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage said in a statement published in the Federal Register.

The statement is a technical amendment to a presidential order which imposed sanctions against the regime.

The order, issued by former U.S. president Bill Clinton, had covered restrictions on property and transactions within the " territory of Afghanistan controlled by the Taliban."

Armitage's statement means that the above description in the order was no longer valid.

The judgment was made despite the fact the U.S. troops are still hunting down remnants of the Taliban, including its leader Mohammad Omar.

U.S. Formally Announces Defeat of Taliban

War in Afghanistan (2001–present) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Troop levels have been steadily INCREASING over the course of the entire Afghanistan conflict, which means BUSH WAS NOT IGNORING AFGHANISTAN...SOMETHING YOU LIBERALS ARE TRYING TO BULLSHIT AMERICA WITH!!!

Troop Levels in Afghanistan Since 2001 - Interactive Graphic - NYTimes.com

Care to do some MORE rewriting of historical fact!

So let me get this straight. We increased troop levels AFTER we defeated the Taliban? Is anyone else scratching their head over this?

Nope...only you...because you are a failure at understanding military strategy.

You are full of shit. I have studied military strategy most of my life, so anytime you are ready to debate Bush's Afghanistan military strategy, please let me know.

 

[VaYank5150]

In the end,30,000 more troops are not going to lead to any significant gains in Afghanistan. It's just a Half-Measure response from a President who has been absolutely shameful in his Half-Hearted approach to helping our kids out over there. Too little too late. How sad.

So, you think 60,000 ADDITIONAL US Troops should be deployed to Afghanistan?

 

[nodoginnafight]

Troop levels have been steadily INCREASING over the course of the entire Afghanistan conflict, which means BUSH WAS NOT IGNORING AFGHANISTAN...SOMETHING YOU LIBERALS ARE TRYING TO BULLSHIT AMERICA WITH!!!

Actually the troop levels (per your link) have gone up and down during the Bush Administration. The most he ever had deployed there was about 34,000 (compared to a top level of 157,000 in Iraq - pretty clear where the priority was misplaced, huh?).
Under Obama, however, troop levels have doubled to 68,000 - a 100% increase in nine months.

The numbers are pretty clear that during the Bush Admin - Afghanistan was playing second fiddle to his bigger priority.

Sorry...you are wrong. "NATO COALITION"..... say it 3 times so you remember it.

NATO NEVER stepped up to do their part...

Uhhhhhhhhhh....like I said..troop levels were steadily increasing over the entire span of the Afghan war. Bush niether ignored it or considered it a low priority. What you dishonest liberal hacks do NOT seem to understand is something I've been saying since the old MSNBC Message board days....the territory in Afghanistan is simply too difficult to fight a war against terror in....so Bush rightly chose the best place to set up a kill zone for every wannabe jihadist.....and he slaughtered them like sheep.

Your just wrong about that - troops levels did not steadily increase - use the slide bar on YOUR interactive link and go month by month. Troops levels were decreased several times.

 

[VaYank5150]

IN 2003 Bush actually DECREASED troop levels in six out of the 12 months; In 2004 monthly troop levels decreased six times; in 2005 four times; in 2006 four times; in 2007 five times; and in 2008 five times.

There you go with those pesky little things called facts again....

 

[PatekPhilippe]

IN 2003 Bush actually DECREASED troop levels in six out of the 12 months; In 2004 monthly troop levels decreased six times; in 2005 four times; in 2006 four times; in 2007 five times; and in 2008 five times.

and what was the beginning and ending troop levels on Bush's watch in Afghanistan again?

Thank you...have a lovely day.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Yank - Libo is just trolling - exact same post in another thread. Even those far right wingers who think we ought to be upping the ante in Afghanistan are trying to spin Obama's move as a negative (even though they agree with the strategy) just goes to show - they're just gonna whine no matter what.

Who cares.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Actually the troop levels (per your link) have gone up and down during the Bush Administration. The most he ever had deployed there was about 34,000 (compared to a top level of 157,000 in Iraq - pretty clear where the priority was misplaced, huh?).
Under Obama, however, troop levels have doubled to 68,000 - a 100% increase in nine months.

The numbers are pretty clear that during the Bush Admin - Afghanistan was playing second fiddle to his bigger priority.

Sorry...you are wrong. "NATO COALITION"..... say it 3 times so you remember it.

NATO NEVER stepped up to do their part...

Uhhhhhhhhhh....like I said..troop levels were steadily increasing over the entire span of the Afghan war. Bush niether ignored it or considered it a low priority. What you dishonest liberal hacks do NOT seem to understand is something I've been saying since the old MSNBC Message board days....the territory in Afghanistan is simply too difficult to fight a war against terror in....so Bush rightly chose the best place to set up a kill zone for every wannabe jihadist.....and he slaughtered them like sheep.

So, all of the Jihadists in Afghanistan are dead. WHY was Bush still escalating troop levels then? Oh, and IF Bush had built such a strong coalition, why did they back out on their troop level promises?

"Oh why?...what if?...if!....why?".....now your playing games and trying to armchair quaterback a conflict you have no idea about....please.....we can all sit here all fricken day and second guess every decision made since the beginning of time...what point does it serve?

 

[PatekPhilippe]

IN 2003 Bush actually DECREASED troop levels in six out of the 12 months; In 2004 monthly troop levels decreased six times; in 2005 four times; in 2006 four times; in 2007 five times; and in 2008 five times.

There you go with those pesky little things called facts again....

Yep...I'm sticking with DUPED!!

 

[VaYank5150]

Sorry...you are wrong. "NATO COALITION"..... say it 3 times so you remember it.

NATO NEVER stepped up to do their part...

Uhhhhhhhhhh....like I said..troop levels were steadily increasing over the entire span of the Afghan war. Bush niether ignored it or considered it a low priority. What you dishonest liberal hacks do NOT seem to understand is something I've been saying since the old MSNBC Message board days....the territory in Afghanistan is simply too difficult to fight a war against terror in....so Bush rightly chose the best place to set up a kill zone for every wannabe jihadist.....and he slaughtered them like sheep.

So, all of the Jihadists in Afghanistan are dead. WHY was Bush still escalating troop levels then? Oh, and IF Bush had built such a strong coalition, why did they back out on their troop level promises?

"Oh why?...what if?...if!....why?".....now your playing games and trying to armchair quaterback a conflict you have no idea about....please.....we can all sit here all fricken day and second guess every decision made since the beginning of time...what point does it serve?

ACTUALLY, what I am TRYING to do is get you to back up your claims. You CLAIM that Bush has been steadily increasing troop levels in Afghnaistan since 2002. Yet, you also claim that the US declared victory over the Taliban in late 2002. Why would we continue to increase troop levels in a territory where the enemy has been wiped out? Additionally, you claim that Bush had built a colaition in Afghanistan, but in the same breath lash out at said coaliation for not sending the required troops. Again, if the Taliban were defeated, why would coalition forces need to send more troops?

 

[nodoginnafight]

Troop levels have been steadily INCREASING over the course of the entire Afghanistan conflict,

Wrong.

You have a great day too.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Hopey Changey = George Bush on Steroids. Hope and Change really are simple mantras for simple minds.