Why You Won't Get Rich: Because Capitalism Broke Its Contract with Hard Work

[Ringo]

That wasn't capitalism that was evil.

And what is the forced sale of opium to China? A smart managerial move? Is the use of slaves on the plantations of the very free United States a "white burden"?
Capitalism = evil.
The good that he is forced to do, he would be happy to completely replace with EVIL if he could, because it brings much more profit.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

And what is the forced sale of opium to China? A smart managerial move? Is the use of slaves on the plantations of the very free United States a "white burden"?
Capitalism = evil.
The good that he is forced to do, he would be happy to completely replace with EVIL if he could, because it brings much more profit.

That’s the downside of capitalism and why regulations are necessary. Fine line for sure.

 

[Ringo]

That’s the downside of capitalism and why regulations are necessary. Fine line for sure.

"...But once there is enough profit, capital becomes bold. Provide 10 percent, and capital agrees to any use, at 20 percent it becomes lively, at 50 percent it is positively ready to break its head, at 100 percent it violates all human laws, at 300 percent there is no crime that it would not risk, even on pain of the gallows. If noise and abuse are profitable, capital will do both. Proof: smuggling and slave trade "

 

[LibertyKid]

Anyone and i do mean anyone can accumulate enough wealth in a working lifetime to retire financially secure. It doesn't even take that much money to do it.

But yet, the social narrative is that ultra rich is what is wrong and keeping society down from being financially secure. That's a load of BS. Those guys, Bezos, Gates, etc., found a way for the average person to trade their product/service for our dollars. None of those guys went to your home or bank and stole your money.
They created a product that pretty much every person in the US and a large percentage of the world said that I will gladly trade my dollars for their service. Yet, they are the evil ones.

The social narrative should be: How to be successful through entrepreneurial mechanism. How to manage your money and invest. How to live within your means.

This whole idea that we vilify successful people for a product and service that MOST everyone has traded, voluntarily, their money, is ludicrous.

And the social irony... Don't see too many bitchin about the 100's of millions being made by pro athletes who will blow their money and be broke after their career is over (Not all of them but plenty do).

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

The fact that you put a photo of Hitler next to Stalin is already evidence of illiteracy.
Next to Hitler, you should have placed Queen Victoria, for example, under which, by armed force, England and other European powers (the United States included) obtained the right to sell drugs to China, which really led to many millions of victims among Chinese residents. Every tenth Chinese became a drug addict. The Chinese Communists had to do a lot of work to overcome this catastrophe and treat drug addicts and their children.
Why do I never see a photo of this vile witch in anti-communist propaganda pictures?

I guess you never studied history. Both Hitler and Stalin were Socialist, just one went far left socialism and the other far right socialism. Maybe you need to go back to school and get your GED before you want to talk history to me.

The Road to Serfdom - Wikipedia

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Hayek "[warns] of the danger of tyranny that inevitably results from government control of economic decision-making through central planning."[7] He further argues that the abandonment of individualism and classical liberalism inevitably leads to a loss of freedom, the creation of an oppressive society, the tyranny of a dictator, and the serfdom of the individual. Hayek challenged the view, popular among British Marxists, that fascism (including Nazism) was a capitalist reaction against socialism. He argued that fascism, Nazism and socialism had common roots in central economic planning and empowering the state over the individual.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

You know, they say that experiments were conducted on prisoners in nazi death camps, which led to some results. As well as the butchers from the Japanese detachment 731, they also moved science forward. This is the innovation drive of capitalism in the purest version.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

"...But once there is enough profit, capital becomes bold. Provide 10 percent, and capital agrees to any use, at 20 percent it becomes lively, at 50 percent it is positively ready to break its head, at 100 percent it violates all human laws, at 300 percent there is no crime that it would not risk, even on pain of the gallows. If noise and abuse are profitable, capital will do both. Proof: smuggling and slave trade "

Without it we don’t have the innovation that we do

 

[Ringo]

Without it we don’t have the innovation that we do

This could be a worthwhile point about the ancient, slave-owning society, where the hoe was the pinnacle of mankind's technical achievements and the efforts of the masses of slaves were needed to build giant structures. But already in the 19th century, the development of mankind could provide a normal life for people, without hunger and exploitation. But then, capitalism prevented this.
By the way, you don't think that all inventions and technological progress can happen only under the condition of capitalism, do you? To think that a person creates and invents only because he will make a profit of it is about like thinking, that a mother takes care of her child ONLY because she counts on his support at her old age.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

This could be a worthwhile point about the ancient, slave-owning society, where the hoe was the pinnacle of mankind's technical achievements and the efforts of the masses of slaves were needed to build giant structures. But already in the 19th century, the development of mankind could provide a normal life for people, without hunger and exploitation. But then, capitalism prevented this.
By the way, you don't think that all inventions and technological progress can happen only under the condition of capitalism, do you? To think that a person creates and invents only because he will make a profit of it is about like thinking, that a mother takes care of her child ONLY because she counts on his support at her old age.

Sure seemed that the Socialist of the USSR couldnt build anything because they murdered all their creative thinkers. so had to invite Nazi's in to teach them about flight and how to make a tank. China stole most of the technology that have today, because back under Mao he also murdered millions who knew better....Want to continue to play the game?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

But already in the 19th century, the development of mankind could provide a normal life for people, without hunger and exploitation.

So why did all the hunger and exploitation occur in the USSR?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

So why did all the hunger and exploitation occur in the USSR?

11 million Ukrainians died because of Socialism....

 

[Ringo]

11 million Ukrainians died because of Socialism....

Don't you realize that by using these numbers you're making yourself look like a complete idiot and a scoundrel, too ? Of course you don't... .

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Don't you realize that by using these numbers you're making yourself look like a complete idiot and a scoundrel, too ? Of course you don't... .

So showing history and what Socialism does to its people, makes me look like an idiot? Thanks for playing.

<----------Ringo...............

 

[Ringo]

So showing history and what Socialism does to its people, makes me look like an idiot?

What if I declare that 100 million Indians were killed in the United States as a result of the Indian genocide? Probably people will say that I am either an idiot or a cheap propagandist. And they will be right.
It is the choice of these two options that can be made about you, when you are talking nonsense about the USSR.
You see, in a war, even ideological and cold, all means are good and one of the weapons of propaganda is lies, distortions are half-truth. For several generations, this dirty foam has created the illusion of objectivity and has became alive like Frankenstein. Therefore, people do not notice the idiocy and absurdity, in what they have been accustomed to and take as self-evident facts since childhood.
And therefore, if I tell you that there were no more prisoners in the whole huge and terrible GULAG at the same time, than there are now in the prisons of the democratic and very free USA, all previous training and upbringing will not allow you to accept this fact. It's quite another thing when they announce from the TV about 100-150 million killed personally by Stalin, you're quite ready for that. A pathetic, brainwashed little man...

P.S. And by the way, about soviet propaganda - the communists lied to soviet people about capitalism, it turned out to be scarier and more disgusting than they said.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

P.S. And by the way, about soviet propaganda - the communists lied to soviet people about capitalism, it turned out to be scarier and more disgusting than they said.

Thank goodness your people were saved from capitalism.
Makes your shithole a little more livable.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

What if I declare that 100 million Indians were killed in the United States as a result of the Indian genocide? Probably people will say that I am either an idiot or a cheap propagandist. And they will be right.
It is the choice of these two options that can be made about you, when you are talking nonsense about the USSR.
You see, in a war, even ideological and cold, all means are good and one of the weapons of propaganda is lies, distortions are half-truth. For several generations, this dirty foam has created the illusion of objectivity and has became alive like Frankenstein. Therefore, people do not notice the idiocy and absurdity, in what they have been accustomed to and take as self-evident facts since childhood.
And therefore, if I tell you that there were no more prisoners in the whole huge and terrible GULAG at the same time, than there are now in the prisons of the democratic and very free USA, all previous training and upbringing will not allow you to accept this fact. It's quite another thing when they announce from the TV about 100-150 million killed personally by Stalin, you're quite ready for that. A pathetic, brainwashed little man...

P.S. And by the way, about soviet propaganda - the communists lied to soviet people about capitalism, it turned out to be scarier and more disgusting than they said.

Just because you say 100 million indians were killed in the US doesnt make it so. While there has been records kept that showed how Socialist Stalin, wanted to make a point to the Ukrainians that if they didnt follow his dictatorial ways, they would starve to death. Then Socialist Mao just murdered 22 million because he just could. So here you are, a petulant little pussified pajama boy, telling me i am brainwahed while giving you links showing that i am right. You are such a progressive slave.

 

[Ringo]

Just because you say 100 million indians were killed in the US doesnt make it so. While there has been records kept that showed how Socialist Stalin, wanted to make a point to the Ukrainians that if they didnt follow his dictatorial ways, they would starve to death.

The problem is the sources of the records you mention. And it usually appears the same way: someone puts his finger in his ass, takes it out, sucks it, and this gives him inspiration to write truthful historical materials.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

The problem is the sources of the records you mention. And it usually appears the same way: someone puts his finger in his ass, takes it out, sucks it, and this gives him inspiration to write truthful historical materials.

Like your side is going to be straight with the world? Even fucking China wont come clean with the Kung Flu released from their lab...Socialist lie all the fucking time.