Why would God have a problem with abortion, when God commands the killing of babies in the Bible?

[Midnight FM]

1 Samuel 15:2-3

Thus says the LORD of hosts: ‘I will punish Amalek for what he did to Israel, how he ambushed him on the way when he came up from Egypt. Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”

Bible Verses about Amalekites

Exodus 17:8-16Now Amalek came and fought with Israel in Rephidim. And Moses said to Joshua, “Choose us some men and go out, fight w

www.cgg.org

This isn't an argument for or against abortion. It's merely pointing out that, in the Old Testament, God orders soldiers to kill babies during warfare.

And. while Christians may argue that the Old Testament isn't relevant today, one could also argue that, if God isn't against killing actual, born babies, that God wouldn't have been against abortion.

The way I would view it is that more humanistic values, such as those which value the lives of unborn children tended to become more widespread over time, and in ancient cultures, where threats to survival were a much more common part of life, humanistic values tended to be more respected.

 

[BrokeLoser]

1 Samuel 15:2-3

Thus says the LORD of hosts: ‘I will punish Amalek for what he did to Israel, how he ambushed him on the way when he came up from Egypt. Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”

Bible Verses about Amalekites

Exodus 17:8-16Now Amalek came and fought with Israel in Rephidim. And Moses said to Joshua, “Choose us some men and go out, fight w

www.cgg.org

This isn't an argument for or against abortion. It's merely pointing out that, in the Old Testament, God orders soldiers to kill babies during warfare.

And. while Christians may argue that the Old Testament isn't relevant today, one could also argue that, if God isn't against killing actual, born babies, that God wouldn't have been against abortion.

The way I would view it is that more humanistic values, such as those which value the lives of unborn children tended to become more widespread over time, and in ancient cultures, where threats to survival were a much more common part of life, humanistic values tended to be more respected.

NO real Christian would say the old testament is irrelevant…EVER.
God isn’t the beta male pajama pant wearing barista boy that lefties want to believe he is…He is no push-over, he is a vengeful God.

 

[excalibur]

God is the Author of Life.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Why do you think God gave that command?

 

[Zebra]

really a tricky question

 

[Midnight FM]

God is the Author of Life.

Regardless, if someone references the Old Testament as something which literally applies in full in modern times (which I'm aware that most Christians don't), then they would have to accept that God allows the killing of babies in certain circumstances, such as during warfare.

And, to my knowledge, there's nothing about abortion in the Bible.

So while people can be against abortion, the reality is that that sentiment is likely more of a product of modern, humanistic ideals, something which would have been less prominent in more ancient, hardscrabble times.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Regardless, if someone references the Old Testament as something which literally applies in full in modern times (which I'm aware that most Christians don't), then they would have to accept that God allows the killing of babies in certain circumstances, such as during warfare.

And, to my knowledge, there's nothing about abortion in the Bible.

So while people can be against abortion, the reality is that that sentiment is likely more of a product of modern, humanistic ideals, something which would have been less prominent in more ancient, hardscrabble times.

All LEGIT human beings value the sanctity of life…It’s in the genetic coding of all legit human beings.

 

[kyzr]

Regardless, if someone references the Old Testament as something which literally applies in full in modern times (which I'm aware that most Christians don't), then they would have to accept that God allows the killing of babies in certain circumstances, such as during warfare.
And, to my knowledge, there's nothing about abortion in the Bible.
So while people can be against abortion, the reality is that that sentiment is likely more of a product of modern, humanistic ideals, something which would have been less prominent in more ancient, hardscrabble times.

God allowed the killing of innocent babies by Herod, hoping to kill Jesus. That has nothing to do with condoning abortion.

Massacre of the Innocents (Rubens) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Midnight FM]

God allowed the killing of innocent babies by Herod, hoping to kill Jesus. That has nothing to do with condoning abortion.

I'll try to be a bit more concise.

Where in the Bible do anti-abortion views come from? The Bible says nothing about abortion.

 

[Cellblock2429]

1 Samuel 15:2-3

Thus says the LORD of hosts: ‘I will punish Amalek for what he did to Israel, how he ambushed him on the way when he came up from Egypt. Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”

Bible Verses about Amalekites

Exodus 17:8-16Now Amalek came and fought with Israel in Rephidim. And Moses said to Joshua, “Choose us some men and go out, fight w

www.cgg.org

This isn't an argument for or against abortion. It's merely pointing out that, in the Old Testament, God orders soldiers to kill babies during warfare.

And. while Christians may argue that the Old Testament isn't relevant today, one could also argue that, if God isn't against killing actual, born babies, that God wouldn't have been against abortion.

The way I would view it is that more humanistic values, such as those which value the lives of unborn children tended to become more widespread over time, and in ancient cultures, where threats to survival were a much more common part of life, humanistic values tended to be more respected.

/-----/ God is the Author of Life and Death, and as such holds sovereign authority over Life, to give and take as He sees fit (or to order others to do so). Note that this instance is an exercise of Justice by God on Amalek for their crimes against the Israelites.
Consider that Exodus endorses the keeping of slaves as mere property, and says that it's licit to beat your slaves (as long as you don't kill them). No one in the Church today would say that this is OK or a reflection of God's will for mankind. Instead, as the Pope has taught, we need to have an eye for what is essential, as opposed to what is a product of a historical interpretation of God's will. This includes contextualizing much of old testament morality around topics like genocide, the treatment of women, slavery, capital punishment, etc.
In summary, Nobody is getting abortions with an order from God. God can make exceptions to the prohibitions on killing, but you can't.

 

[BrokeLoser]

I'll try to be a bit more concise.

Where in the Bible do anti-abortion views come from? The Bible says nothing about abortion.

A better question might be….If even the animal kingdom can value the sanctity of life why can’t purple hair nose-ringers?

 

[kyzr]

I'll try to be a bit more concise.
Where in the Bible do anti-abortion views come from? The Bible says nothing about abortion.

Here are 30 bible verses for you

30 Powerful Bible Verses About The Sanctity Of Life (Full Commentary) - Bible Study For You

Today we will talk about Bible Verses About The Sanctity Of Life. The concept of the sanctity of life is foundational to our belief as Christians, reminding

biblestudyforyou.com

 

[MarcATL]

NO real Christian would say the old testament is irrelevant…EVER.
God isn’t the beta male pajama pant wearing barista boy that lefties want to believe he is…He is no push-over, he is a vengeful God.

Meaning what exaclty?

Tell you what, sticking w/you depiction of God, what is He most vengeful of in Scripture?

I look forward to your response.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Meaning what exaclty?

Tell you what, sticking w/you depiction of God, what is He most vengeful of in Scripture?

I look forward to your response.

Read Genesis 19

2 Thessalonians 3:10 states: "For even when we were with you, we gave you this command: Anyone unwilling to work should not eat." This verse emphasizes the importance of work and self-sufficiency, discouraging idleness and dependence on others. It was likely a response to some in the Thessalonian church who had stopped working, believing that Christ's second coming was imminent

He said work or die of starvation.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Regardless, if someone references the Old Testament as something which literally applies in full in modern times (which I'm aware that most Christians don't), then they would have to accept that God allows the killing of babies in certain circumstances, such as during warfare.

And, to my knowledge, there's nothing about abortion in the Bible.

So while people can be against abortion, the reality is that that sentiment is likely more of a product of modern, humanistic ideals, something which would have been less prominent in more ancient, hardscrabble times.

Nope. It has nothing to do with modern times, and everything to do with a descendant of Amalek. Had Saul heeded God's advice, Haman would not have been born and consequently try to wipe the Jews off the face of the earth. It had absolutely nothing to do with abortion.

 

[Mack The Finger]

The way I would view it is that more humanistic values, such as those which value the lives of unborn children tended to become more widespread over time, and in ancient cultures, where threats to survival were a much more common part of life, humanistic values tended to be more respected.

I have personally partied with God and he is a complex dude !

 

[playtime]

the OT certainly has something to say about abortion. if a husband - having authority over his wife - even SUSPECTS she slept with another dude - then he can take her to a priest who is under the authority of
' GOD ' , & the hubby can demand an induced abortion.

<ahem>

Numbers 5:11-31​

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isn't that special?

 

[playtime]

God is the Author of Life.

& the smiter of death.

 

[Hafar1014]

I see non one has ever heard of a spontaneous abortion or miscarriage. Isnt that an act of nature and also an act of Gods plan. Hmmmmmmm

 

[playtime]

A better question might be….If even the animal kingdom can value the sanctity of life why can’t purple hair nose-ringers?

or phallic obsessed gun nuts who turn innocent souls into swiss cheese?