Why there is no such thing as racism against white people

[Asclepias]

See, the difference between you and me is that I respect low wage workers in this country, and treat them with respect an dignity.

Also, people of color cannot be racist. The REAL definition of racism tells us that racism requires power and privelege, and people of color have neither power nor privelege.

I am white, my family and most of my friends are white, we have no power or privilege. We are not racist, but I am sure you will think so just because we are white. There are blacks in power and have more power and privilege than me. You appear to dislike or hate whites just for being white, therefore, you ARE racist.

Yes, of course you have privelege. When's the last time you were followed by a cop just for your skin color, or denied a housing loan for being white, etc? Never.

A lot of privilege is due to class. There are rich black people who have more privilege than most whites, there are rich people of every ethnicity who have more privilege than whites. I don't consider it a privilege to be white, I have been stereotyped for being older, I was stereotyped as a teenager for my associates with long haired people.

No, rich people of color still get profiled more than poor whites. For affluent blacks, wealth doesn't stop racial profiling

Why do you suppose they are profiled?

Because cops are predominantly racist. There have been more than a couple of cops that have admitted this publicly and I have also heard it from people I know that are cops themselves..

 

[WinterBorn]

Denying racism exists in modern society is ridiculous. Of course it exists. And we certainly should be fighting it at every turn.

However, what the OP wants is to turn the table and make white people the victims of racism. He seeks payback, not justice.

 

[ChairmanGonzalo]

See, the difference between you and me is that I respect low wage workers in this country, and treat them with respect an dignity.

Also, people of color cannot be racist. The REAL definition of racism tells us that racism requires power and privelege, and people of color have neither power nor privelege.

I am white, my family and most of my friends are white, we have no power or privilege. We are not racist, but I am sure you will think so just because we are white. There are blacks in power and have more power and privilege than me. You appear to dislike or hate whites just for being white, therefore, you ARE racist.

Yes, of course you have privelege. When's the last time you were followed by a cop just for your skin color, or denied a housing loan for being white, etc? Never.

When is the last time a mob of white people beat the shit out of random black people on the streets? Black people have earned a reputation of violence and crime, so now they have to deal with it.

1. The police fill the role of white mobs very well. There are too many cases of white cops shooting unarmed, cooperative people of color

2. The Dylan Roof incident happened a year ago

3. People of color have the right to physically defend themselves against those who oppress them

I know for a fact white racist groups have infiltrated the police and the military.

As an Army Veteran, I can confirm this, sadly.

 

[ChairmanGonzalo]

Denying racism exists in modern society is ridiculous. Of course it exists. And we certainly should be fighting it at every turn.

However, what the OP wants is to turn the table and make white people the victims of racism. He seeks payback, not justice.

Maybe in some cases, justice involves things like apologies, reparations, and a dismantling of a racist system where whites hold privelege over all other people.

 

[Godboy]

I am white, my family and most of my friends are white, we have no power or privilege. We are not racist, but I am sure you will think so just because we are white. There are blacks in power and have more power and privilege than me. You appear to dislike or hate whites just for being white, therefore, you ARE racist.

Yes, of course you have privelege. When's the last time you were followed by a cop just for your skin color, or denied a housing loan for being white, etc? Never.

When is the last time a mob of white people beat the shit out of random black people on the streets? Black people have earned a reputation of violence and crime, so now they have to deal with it.

1. The police fill the role of white mobs very well. There are too many cases of white cops shooting unarmed, cooperative people of color

2. The Dylan Roof incident happened a year ago

3. People of color have the right to physically defend themselves against those who oppress them

I know for a fact white racist groups have infiltrated the police and the military.

As an Army Veteran, I can confirm this, sadly.

You can confirm that a white supremacist group had a bunch of its members infiltrate the US military? I highly doubt that, but Ill be happy to review your evidence regarding this felonious conspiracy.

 

[MizMolly]

Denying racism exists in modern society is ridiculous. Of course it exists. And we certainly should be fighting it at every turn.

However, what the OP wants is to turn the table and make white people the victims of racism. He seeks payback, not justice.

Maybe in some cases, justice involves things like apologies, reparations, and a dismantling of a racist system where whites hold privelege over all other people.

Reparations for what?

 

[Asclepias]

Denying racism exists in modern society is ridiculous. Of course it exists. And we certainly should be fighting it at every turn.

However, what the OP wants is to turn the table and make white people the victims of racism. He seeks payback, not justice.

Maybe in some cases, justice involves things like apologies, reparations, and a dismantling of a racist system where whites hold privelege over all other people.

Reparations for what?

Racism

 

[MizMolly]

Denying racism exists in modern society is ridiculous. Of course it exists. And we certainly should be fighting it at every turn.

However, what the OP wants is to turn the table and make white people the victims of racism. He seeks payback, not justice.

Maybe in some cases, justice involves things like apologies, reparations, and a dismantling of a racist system where whites hold privelege over all other people.

Reparations for what?

Racism

That would be difficult to determine

 

[squeeze berry]

Denying racism exists in modern society is ridiculous. Of course it exists. And we certainly should be fighting it at every turn.

However, what the OP wants is to turn the table and make white people the victims of racism. He seeks payback, not justice.

blacks want justice which is revenge for past injustices that no one living suffered or perpetrated

revenge will be resisted

 

[Asclepias]

Denying racism exists in modern society is ridiculous. Of course it exists. And we certainly should be fighting it at every turn.

However, what the OP wants is to turn the table and make white people the victims of racism. He seeks payback, not justice.

Maybe in some cases, justice involves things like apologies, reparations, and a dismantling of a racist system where whites hold privelege over all other people.

Reparations for what?

Racism

That would be difficult to determine

thats not a good enough excuse for not doing it.

 

[MizMolly]

Denying racism exists in modern society is ridiculous. Of course it exists. And we certainly should be fighting it at every turn.

However, what the OP wants is to turn the table and make white people the victims of racism. He seeks payback, not justice.

Maybe in some cases, justice involves things like apologies, reparations, and a dismantling of a racist system where whites hold privelege over all other people.

Reparations for what?

Racism

That would be difficult to determine

thats not a good enough excuse for not doing it.

Sure it is. How do you determine who was responsible and who was a target? People are discriminated against for various reasons, you can't blame everyone or make everyone pay for it.

 

[emilynghiem]

4 'Reverse Racism' Myths That Need To Stop | Huffington Post

7 reasons why reverse racism doesn't exist

Racism requires power and privelege to exist.

People of color do not have any power or privilege in this white dominated society. This is shown by the fact that people of color are FAR more likely to be sentenced to prison while whites get off on plea deals for the same exact crimes.

Sure, there may be a few rich people of color in this country, but even the richest African American in the US still gets racially profiled by police. Even Senator Tim Scott (who is a Republican, by the way) has openly talked about being profiled by police for his skin color. Even President Obama, back when he was a senator, used to see people lock their car doors as he walked by, showing that people of color in all walks of life still face plenty of hate and discrimination.

Because racism requires power and privelege, and since whites are the only racial group with institutional power and privelege in this country, only whites can be racist. Saying that racism against whites exists is like saying 2 plus 2 equals 800. It's just not factually possible.

And don't try to give me any bullshit from the oxford dictionary or webster dictionary about what their definition of racism is. These dictionaries were written by old white men who never experienced racism in their lives, and therefore should not be trusted to provide an accurate, unbiased definition of the word.

Dear ChairmanGonzalo:
I think you are mixing "institutionalized racism" with "internal racism"
Anyone can use their own power to oppress themselves and others with divisive racist attitudes that destroy and kill relations. We all have "power" to do that withing our selves and relations with those around us.

With "institutionalized' racism, you are saying if people do not own or control collective resources, they can't abuse this power as those who do have those resources. Yes and no.

Yes, I DO agree if people do not have equal OWNERSHIP of land and control of the process,
YES this is unequal. And the lopsided power base is what you are referring to.

However, in responding to this, if people organize riots or they organize their own Congress,
then they CAN use their collective influence and numbers to empower themselves.

It's just that they DON'T have this KNOWLEDGE how to do it, then it is still imbalanced.

The access to knowledge of laws and experience with property ownership HAS been traditionally
biased toward the founders and their descendants vs. the natives and the slaves treated as subjugate.

But once the KNOWLEDGE is made equal, we can work toward equal EXPERIENCE,
and then people CAN overcome the culturally engrained inequality and achieve equal justice and protections under the same laws.

It's a matter of the KNOWLEDGE, not just the race,
but yes the knowledge of property laws and business management has been passed down
from generations to generations; so people like the Black slaves and Native Americans suffering from genocide had this lineage disrupted and with it their equal ownership of land and equal say in laws.

 

[MizMolly]

 

[katsteve2012]

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620,000 white people died to preserve the Union, and keep a country that was founded by whites, for whites intact.

In Lincolns own words:

"If I could preserve the union by not freeing a single slave, I would not, and if I have to free all of the slaves to preserve the union, I will".

The same Lincoln also stated:

"I can think of no greater calamity than the assimilation of blacks into society as the white mans equal".

Slaves being freed was just an incidental event in the process of industrializing the south....they became an outdated source of labor, freed by obsolescence, and then were introduced to their new friend....Jim Crow.

 

[WinterBorn]

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620,000 white people died to preserve the Union, and keep a country that was founded by whites, for whites intact.

In Lincolns own words:

"If I could preserve the union by not freeing a single slave, I would not, and if I have to free all of the slaves to preserve the union, I will".

The same Lincoln also stated:

"I can think of no greater calamity than the assimilation of blacks into society as the white mans equal".

Slaves being freed was just an incidental event in the process of industrializing the south....they became an outdated source of labor, freed by obsolescence, and then were introduced to their new friend....Jim Crow.

Another "The Civil War was not about slavery"? Sorry, the vice president of the confederacy clearly defined the reasons and slavery was at the top. Slavery was the reason for the war.

 

[Asclepias]

Maybe in some cases, justice involves things like apologies, reparations, and a dismantling of a racist system where whites hold privelege over all other people.

Reparations for what?

Racism

That would be difficult to determine

thats not a good enough excuse for not doing it.

Sure it is. How do you determine who was responsible and who was a target? People are discriminated against for various reasons, you can't blame everyone or make everyone pay for it.

No its not. Its an excuse. There are many hard things people undertake and resolve if its important to them.

Its simple who is responsible and who was a target. The US government was responsible and Blacks and NAs were the targets.

 

[katsteve2012]

View attachment 98089

620,000 white people died to preserve the Union, and keep a country that was founded by whites, for whites intact.

In Lincolns own words:

"If I could preserve the union by not freeing a single slave, I would not, and if I have to free all of the slaves to preserve the union, I will".

The same Lincoln also stated:

"I can think of no greater calamity than the assimilation of blacks into society as the white mans equal".

Slaves being freed was just an incidental event in the process of industrializing the south....they became an outdated source of labor, freed by obsolescence, and then were introduced to their new friend....Jim Crow.

Another "The Civil War was not about slavery"? Sorry, the vice president of the confederacy clearly defined the reasons and slavery was at the top. Slavery was the reason for the war.

I did not say it was not about slavery. I am aware of how the vice president of the Confederacy defined their stance, however he wss not the president of the country, and the Condeferacy lost the war..

Lincoln WAS.the president,

And Lincoln said it was about preserving the Union.

 

[WinterBorn]

View attachment 98089

620,000 white people died to preserve the Union, and keep a country that was founded by whites, for whites intact.

In Lincolns own words:

"If I could preserve the union by not freeing a single slave, I would not, and if I have to free all of the slaves to preserve the union, I will".

The same Lincoln also stated:

"I can think of no greater calamity than the assimilation of blacks into society as the white mans equal".

Slaves being freed was just an incidental event in the process of industrializing the south....they became an outdated source of labor, freed by obsolescence, and then were introduced to their new friend....Jim Crow.

Another "The Civil War was not about slavery"? Sorry, the vice president of the confederacy clearly defined the reasons and slavery was at the top. Slavery was the reason for the war.

I did not say it was not about slavery. I am aware of how the vice president of the Confederacy defined their stance, however he wss not the president of the country, and the Condeferacy lost the war..

Lincoln WAS.the president,

And Lincoln said it was about preserving the Union.

Lincoln was not the one who seceded. That was about slavery. Lincoln wanted to preserve the union, which was broken because of slavery.

 

[NCC1701]

4 'Reverse Racism' Myths That Need To Stop | Huffington Post

7 reasons why reverse racism doesn't exist

Racism requires power and privelege to exist.

People of color do not have any power or privilege in this white dominated society. This is shown by the fact that people of color are FAR more likely to be sentenced to prison while whites get off on plea deals for the same exact crimes.

Sure, there may be a few rich people of color in this country, but even the richest African American in the US still gets racially profiled by police. Even Senator Tim Scott (who is a Republican, by the way) has openly talked about being profiled by police for his skin color. Even President Obama, back when he was a senator, used to see people lock their car doors as he walked by, showing that people of color in all walks of life still face plenty of hate and discrimination.

Because racism requires power and privelege, and since whites are the only racial group with institutional power and privelege in this country, only whites can be racist. Saying that racism against whites exists is like saying 2 plus 2 equals 800. It's just not factually possible.

And don't try to give me any bullshit from the oxford dictionary or webster dictionary about what their definition of racism is. These dictionaries were written by old white men who never experienced racism in their lives, and therefore should not be trusted to provide an accurate, unbiased definition of the word.

then try bigotry against whites, and if you deny that then you are hopelessly stupid. Why do you dumbasses keep trolling out the same stupid discredited propaganda?

 

[NCC1701]

White people who live in Japan recount a racist experience.

Since Japan is suffering to this day from white imperialism and aggression, any Japanese citizen would be justified in mistrusting a white person, given that whites were the oens who dropped nuclear weapons on two civilian cities.

Can I just be honest and say I don't give a flying **** about the problems of black people, who in my opinion, are to blame for most of their own problems.

Asian people don't have these problems because they work hard, make good money, and their kids work hard and get good grades in school.

When I went to university, the libraries and computer science labs were always full of Asian students working while the whites, blacks and Hispanics were out on the lawn throwing a frisbee.

If anyone has the right to complain it's Asians, because affirmative action programs actuallly discriminate AGAINST them even more than whites.

I am Asian American myself, and I find your condescension and your "model minority" bullshit EXTREMELY racist and offensive

Japan is suffering? my god what a dumbass