Why the US has lost its moral compass

[Votto]

and the rest of us look at it and shake our collective head. And, this is not a Trump issue, this is an every president issue.

List of people granted executive clemency by Donald Trump - Wikipedia

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Well let's see, we stopped prayer in schools, we took the Ten Commandments out of the court rooms, we took away all nativity scenes for Christmas that is on state property, we closed down the churches for Covid, we outlaw prostitution but allow pornography to run rampant, we glorify sex and violence in our movies thanks to Hollywierd, and we are teaching our children that there are over a million genders they can choose from to become.

Why has our moral compass gone south? Putin done it. That's what it must be.

 

[Likkmee]

Killing millions in abortion industry is yellow brick road to amorality

Abortion isn't murder.

I rest my case

The only thing taking a rest is your brain. Do you want to talk about abortion? At what point do you think life begins. Would you consider taking the pill RU486 to be murder?

According to science, life begins at fertilization or conception.

This is amerryka. Life begins with the red number on your hatching certificate. Until then, you're useless (only sold for parts)

 

[MarathonMike]

....BLM/idiots protesting/looting/vandalizing/etc FOR jackass criminals is one of the reasons --just like the nazis did

Liar.

That's truth. BLM are anti americans who hate this country.

Correct, that is why they want to "transform it" just like Obama.

 

[Dr Grump]

So many people have missed my point.

For years, us outside the US were told ad nauseum by the US itself, how it was the greatest country in the world. They would back it up by how they 'saved everybody's asses in WWII' and then back it up with their sacred sacrament the Constitution and all the freedoms it supposedly entails.

Yet, you live in a country, where the top dog has just given pardons to convicted felons not because of a miscarriage of justice, but because he is your son-in-law's father, or they helped you with your political campaign. Now before you go all gooey about me being anti-Trump (which I am 1000 per cent), the first time I saw this happen was when Bubba did it with Marc Rich. I thought Clinton was a good president, but sucked as a person. This only backed it up. Clinton's pardon of Rich was just as disgraceful.

Which brings back to the whole point of the OP. You guys hide behind your constitution as the greatest document on Earth and therefore, amongst other (somewhat dubious) reasons makes your the greatest country on Earth. Well, I'll tell you this - you may call the UK whatever you like, the French, the Germans, the Spanish, Italians and the Scandinavians. You may deride NZ, Aussie and the Canucks. But none of those countries have a system that allows something as disgraceful and the presidential pardon. If any politician even suggested pardoning a convicted felon, and it was based on 'he's a mate of mine' their political career would be over. If they did it anyway, they would absolutely go to prison. There are literally 100,000 of 1000 of convicted felons in the US who did a lot less than either of those guys who will never get a pardon. Is that your idea of 'great'? Fuck off. It's pathetic.

If somebody told me the reasoning behind Rich and Kushner senior getting their partners, and I had no idea what country they were from and I was asked to guess, I'd think Venezuela. Honduras. Zimbabwe (insert tinpot dictatorship here). Please, I never want to hear again how free you are. How you are the greatest nation in the world. You are great at incarcerating people. You are great at having large amounts of wealth (although very few people have that wealth). And I would argue you have the most comprehensive military in the world. Outside of that, you're stretching it to be great at anything.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Killing millions in abortion industry is yellow brick road to amorality

Abortion isn't murder.

Yes, technically it is.

 

[Papageorgio]

So many people have missed my point.

For years, us outside the US were told ad nauseum by the US itself, how it was the greatest country in the world. They would back it up by how they 'saved everybody's asses in WWII' and then back it up with their sacred sacrament the Constitution and all the freedoms it supposedly entails.

Yet, you live in a country, where the top dog has just given pardons to convicted felons not because of a miscarriage of justice, but because he is your son-in-law's father, or they helped you with your political campaign. Now before you go all gooey about me being anti-Trump (which I am 1000 per cent), the first time I saw this happen was when Bubba did it with Marc Rich. I thought Clinton was a good president, but sucked as a person. This only backed it up. Clinton's pardon of Rich was just as disgraceful.

Which brings back to the whole point of the OP. You guys hide behind your constitution as the greatest document on Earth and therefore, amongst other (somewhat dubious) reasons makes your the greatest country on Earth. Well, I'll tell you this - you may call the UK whatever you like, the French, the Germans, the Spanish, Italians and the Scandinavians. You may deride NZ, Aussie and the Canucks. But none of those countries have a system that allows something as disgraceful and the presidential pardon. If any politician even suggested pardoning a convicted felon, and it was based on 'he's a mate of mine' their political career would be over. If they did it anyway, they would absolutely go to prison. There are literally 100,000 of 1000 of convicted felons in the US who did a lot less than either of those guys who will never get a pardon. Is that your idea of 'great'? Fuck off. It's pathetic.

If somebody told me the reasoning behind Rich and Kushner senior getting their partners, and I had no idea what country they were from and I was asked to guess, I'd think Venezuela. Honduras. Zimbabwe (insert tinpot dictatorship here). Please, I never want to hear again how free you are. How you are the greatest nation in the world. You are great at incarcerating people. You are great at having large amounts of wealth (although very few people have that wealth). And I would argue you have the most comprehensive military in the world. Outside of that, you're stretching it to be great at anything.

You don’t like our system. I’m shocked! You seem to bitch about everything the US does and then stick your nose in our business.You continue to live where you live, I’ll continue to live here where I want to live.

Today’s pardoning power is been an overreach of power and it needs to be curbed but I doubt it will. Now find a new subject to cry about.

 

[Gdjjr]

What China does should be everyone's business because they are the second ranked super power in the world and they have NO REGARD for human life at all. They are beyond Communist, they are straight up monsters. They have been obsessed with overtaking us as world number one and having the Yuan become the world reserve currency. Turning a blind eye to China is incredibly naive and dangerous.

That doesn't change a thing I said- but, let's carry the "moral compass" thing even further, and use your words-

What everyone "should be concerned with" is your opinion- Period. To impose, or inflict, or otherwise force your opinion on others is the epitome of immoral- the degree is immaterial. Immoral is immoral.
Propping up the US Federal Reserve note by invading other sovereign Nations, under the pretense of defending the US is immoral. Killing others who are defending their homes from an invasion, under false pretense, is murder. Murder is immoral. Printing money (reserve currency) out of thin air, enslaving generations is immoral.
It also devalues what you have in hand = less purchasing power, which robs you of the fruit of your labor, which is theft, which is immoral.

The acts at Waco and Kent State and Ruby Ridge (and those are just recently), under the color of law, is immoral. Asset forfeiture is theft, by the State, which is immoral. Criminalizing a product for a revenue source (the drug war) is immoral and has killed 1000's- killing, except in self defense, is immoral.

Turning a "blind eye" to what your own government does is not only incredibly naive, it is also being willfully blind.
One must clean his own backyard before complaining about his neighbors backyard. Especially when claiming a moral high ground.

 

[Gdjjr]

Which brings back to the whole point of the OP. You guys hide behind your constitution as the greatest document on Earth and therefore, amongst other (somewhat dubious) reasons makes your the greatest country on Earth. Well, I'll tell you this - you may call the UK whatever you like, the French, the Germans, the Spanish, Italians and the Scandinavians. You may deride NZ, Aussie and the Canucks. But none of those countries have a system that allows something as disgraceful and the presidential pardon. If any politician even suggested pardoning a convicted felon, and it was based on 'he's a mate of mine' their political career would be over. If they did it anyway, they would absolutely go to prison. There are literally 100,000 of 1000 of convicted felons in the US who did a lot less than either of those guys who will never get a pardon. Is that your idea of 'great'? Fuck off. It's pathetic.

The constitution works ONLY when adhered to by those who swear to protect and defend it. Period. They don't. Period. Not a one of them, and haven't since before the ink on it was dry. It's a document, a set of rules, that the miscreants intentionally misinterpret and/or ignore- the Bill of Rights are just that- lines not to be crossed by gov't employees, under no circumstances, with but one (1) caveat, in the 4th amendment- probable cause, which is ambiguous-
The preamble clearly states the purpose of the constitution. Pseudo Intellectuals, like to pretend it's an esoteric endeavor- that means, then, that simple English is an esoteric endeavor- and based on my many, many years participating on Political message Boards- I'd have to say, that seems to be the case, since very few comprehend it.

The rest of your rant is silly.

 

[BrokeLoser]

and the rest of us look at it and shake our collective head. And, this is not a Trump issue, this is an every president issue.

List of people granted executive clemency by Donald Trump - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Hahaha....A Leftist lecturing about morality...hahaha...now that’s some funny shit.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

So many people have missed my point.

For years, us outside the US were told ad nauseum by the US itself, how it was the greatest country in the world. They would back it up by how they 'saved everybody's asses in WWII' and then back it up with their sacred sacrament the Constitution and all the freedoms it supposedly entails.

Yet, you live in a country, where the top dog has just given pardons to convicted felons not because of a miscarriage of justice, but because he is your son-in-law's father, or they helped you with your political campaign. Now before you go all gooey about me being anti-Trump (which I am 1000 per cent), the first time I saw this happen was when Bubba did it with Marc Rich. I thought Clinton was a good president, but sucked as a person. This only backed it up. Clinton's pardon of Rich was just as disgraceful.

Which brings back to the whole point of the OP. You guys hide behind your constitution as the greatest document on Earth and therefore, amongst other (somewhat dubious) reasons makes your the greatest country on Earth. Well, I'll tell you this - you may call the UK whatever you like, the French, the Germans, the Spanish, Italians and the Scandinavians. You may deride NZ, Aussie and the Canucks. But none of those countries have a system that allows something as disgraceful and the presidential pardon. If any politician even suggested pardoning a convicted felon, and it was based on 'he's a mate of mine' their political career would be over. If they did it anyway, they would absolutely go to prison. There are literally 100,000 of 1000 of convicted felons in the US who did a lot less than either of those guys who will never get a pardon. Is that your idea of 'great'? Fuck off. It's pathetic.

If somebody told me the reasoning behind Rich and Kushner senior getting their partners, and I had no idea what country they were from and I was asked to guess, I'd think Venezuela. Honduras. Zimbabwe (insert tinpot dictatorship here). Please, I never want to hear again how free you are. How you are the greatest nation in the world. You are great at incarcerating people. You are great at having large amounts of wealth (although very few people have that wealth). And I would argue you have the most comprehensive military in the world. Outside of that, you're stretching it to be great at anything.

That is the least of which our path to moral degradation resides. We have moral decay, rot, endless wars, endless spending, lawlessness abounds etc. We are there. We will fall on the ash heap as so many other countries before us. Our cycle is about done as a republic.

 

[Thevolunteerwino]

I blame the major media as a large part of it myself.
Reading the headlines this mornimg and you can tell its not real news. More of pushing agenda and slandering opinions on every issue they have chosen and little trurh to do with the economy or any real news. Its all fake.
When you let a few sources dictate the way you think. What do you expect of morals and ethics

 

[Gdjjr]

When you let a few sources dictate the way you think.

You, then, are duped, and poorly educated- Public Education is a failure.

 

[Thevolunteerwino]

When you let a few sources dictate the way you think.

You, then, are duped, and poorly educated- Public Education is a failure.

Duped how? You made no sense. The media is a propaganda joke and our schools are ok. Spreading your propaganda as well i see

 

[Gdjjr]

The media is a propaganda joke and our schools are ok. Spreading your propaganda as well i see

LOL- really? Propaganda? Come on, can't you do better than that?

IF anyone believes the MSM, they have been duped. Period. That the MSM is believed to be an authority then the Public Education system has failed, miserably- that people believe our schools are ok, speaks volumes to why our Public Education system failed, in the arena of a *proper* education, which teaches to find answers, not regurgitate opinion- yeah, propaganda- LOL- to educate is merely a passing on of knowledge- incomplete = PPE- Piss Poor Education- opinion is just that- authority figures are believed to be infalable- why is that? Opinion.

 

[Thevolunteerwino]

The media is a propaganda joke and our schools are ok. Spreading your propaganda as well i see

LOL- really? Propaganda? Come on, can't you do better than that?

IF anyone believes the MSM, they have been duped. Period. That the MSM is believed to be an authority then the Public Education system has failed, miserably- that people believe our schools are ok, speaks volumes to why our Public Education system failed, in the arena of a *proper* education, which teaches to find answers, not regurgitate opinion- yeah, propaganda- LOL- to educate is merely a passing on of knowledge- incomplete = PPE- Piss Poor Education- opinion is just that- authority figures are believed to be infalable- why is that? Opinion.

I originally said the MSM (referred to as "major media" ) was the problem and spreading hate and propaganda. So why was I duped. At least my education taught me to read.

 

[MarathonMike]

You worry about our moral compass when China murders their lead virus doctor, incinerates Wuhan virus victims and releases a pandemic on the world.

Murdering their lead virus doctor? I never heard that particular BS yet. Also, from what I have heard, most of the people who die in China are cremated. Just like in India. Now if they did it while they were still alive, that would be a different matter.

Dr Ai Fen was the lead virus doctor in Wuhan who went public in March of this year about the CCP coverup of the virus outbreak. She disappeared a week later and there has been a COMPLETE BLACKOUT on the internet about what happened to her.

It is standard operating procedure for the CCP to imprison or kill anyone who speaks out against the State. She was killed and China has ordered a media blackout on her. If you can find anything about her since April 2020, please post it. She's dead.

 

[Juicey Omelette]

Everything in our society that is an erosion to moral standards is inherent to leftist ideology.

 

[Thevolunteerwino]

You worry about our moral compass when China murders their lead virus doctor, incinerates Wuhan virus victims and releases a pandemic on the world.

Murdering their lead virus doctor? I never heard that particular BS yet. Also, from what I have heard, most of the people who die in China are cremated. Just like in India. Now if they did it while they were still alive, that would be a different matter.

Dr Ai Fen was the lead virus doctor in Wuhan who went public in March of this year about the CCP coverup of the virus outbreak. She disappeared a week later and there has been a COMPLETE BLACKOUT on the internet about what happened to her.

It is standard operating procedure for the CCP to imprison or kill anyone who speaks out against the State. She was killed and China has ordered a media blackout on her. If you can find anything about her since April 2020, please post it. She's dead.

Also gone from China is the doctor who said covid19 attacked ace2 which is present in male testicles and creating sterility in the population of young males.
A lot of medical studies were silenced there

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

You worry about our moral compass when China murders their lead virus doctor, incinerates Wuhan virus victims and releases a pandemic on the world.

Murdering their lead virus doctor? I never heard that particular BS yet. Also, from what I have heard, most of the people who die in China are cremated. Just like in India. Now if they did it while they were still alive, that would be a different matter.

China murdering someone who dared to make an issue of China's policies and actions?
Unbelievable! Ridiculous! Whoever heard of such a thing?

 

[WEATHER53]

We did not lose it. We gave it up via PC
The immoral and amoral just were too put upon to behave and we are like slave owners to expect them to contribute and obey legal and moral laws